It is, and every country has the right to now sanction the US just as they had with Russia. I'm not wishing anything, just observing like everyone else.
afaik Trump got elected so we got what the majority wanted, I havent seen any uprising so far here so I still dont think hes illegitimate howsoever dumb he might be
🙄 Then treat it like any other dictator. If the same thing happened for Saddam Hussein or Kim Jong Un or Saudi royalty or Putin or the Ayatollah, you think it still would lead to no fallout?
Yes, dictators bad. Getting rid of dictators good. World policing a removal while prioritizing - above all else - the natural resources of the country and not the people or rebuilding their government? That's also bad.
lives lost based on the decline in outlays (current spending) may be in the range of 500,000 to 1,000,000 and potential lives lost based on the decline in obligations (commitments to future spending) are between 670,000 and 1,600,000.
i think the made up bullshit is more about saying it's about freedom and democracy rather than because they want the oil and to sell the country to the private oil companies.
granted I'm pretty sure trump just admitted he's doing this just because he wants to seize control of the oil and not because he cares about the people of Venezuela.
Probably, but guess what in reality that doesn’t work.
You get to be the slaves to corporate interests that’ll take notes from Pepsi and throw you into instability the moment you breathe the words fair pay.
Or you won’t have democratic government and will be a vassal state to a larger nation who will suck ya dry and give nothing in return.
An open an improved government is the very bottom of the list of possibilities. Especially with the current American administration.
It’ll still be a failed state. I’m sorry you didn’t actually get the reference I was making regarding Pepsi. I was pointing out that the corporations will not treat the people well they will most likely just be the same as the former government, only with less mandate to look after others and will in fact destabilise the region if people demand better conditions.
In both cases the starvation is still there. You might get a little better in 25 years so I’m sure it’ll be worth it.
You can keep saying Redditor all you want as a form of dismissal but it doesn’t change anything really or help your point.
I hope it won’t stop there, a lot of lefties with dirty hands still running around, I hope he gets ALL of em, and then he can fuck off too. But first things first.
How do you make comments like this one and not feel like a fascist? "I hope the government comes to round up, jail, and murder people who disagree with me on how best to help the economy!" Bruh, who says you ain't next?
How do you support a blatant narco-dictatorship just because it says it supports leftist ideals? Have you ever visited this country? And yeah, I’m all for foreign intervention if it does what it did yesterday, incarcerate ruthless, blood-stained murderers, drug traffickers, torturers, and oppressive dictators. Get out of here with your starbucks “fascist” tags YOU put on anyone that has different ideas.
Trump has already stated he has no plan for replacing Maduro... If history is any guide, Venezuela will end up with another dictator who is just as bad or worse than Maduro was.
Edit: Downvote all you like, doesn't change the truth. Already got paramilitary in the streets repressing protests, won't be long until the government replaces Maduro with someone just as awful.
So honest question: Why do YOU think that the DOJ is redacting everything they can about Trump in the literally thousands of times he is referenced in the Epstein files?
Because the files are a national security golden goose, You don't reveal active intelligent assets or relevant intel just willy nilly to the public. That would be like expecting the government to post a list of Nuclear launch sites with GPS coordinates. Much of those bad actors within the files can be actively leveraged for out benefit rather than replace them with some evil dickhead that no one has any dirt on. Better the Devils you know than the ones you don't.
Also give examples, don't just say "but what about." Prove that the redaction prove what you think it does, otherwise stfu because you clearly have 0 understanding of Global Politics or how it works.
You're not the person I was replying to but you came a WEEK LATER to tell me some complete pantsload of a ridiculous reason when the Senate and House both voted to release it? It's not released because Trump specifically ordered for this to happen because there's overwhelming evidence that he and Epstein worked together to traffic underage women and SA them.
So you're saying that no bullshit was made up? That Venezuela is producing fentanyl and pushing it to the US, using it as a WoMD and prohibited chemical warfare?
The interesting part about life is that multiple things can be true at once! Trump? Piece of shit. Maduro? Piece of shit. US invading Venezuela in general? Good AND bad.
Now the better question is, how is Trump and the US going to somehow make this an absolute shit show and fuck something up way worse. That’s tbd
Wholeheartedly agree. Calling Trump a piece of shit is both an euphemism and a classless act, an insult to all pieces of shit. Maduro? A dictator who pushes his country to collapse. People of Venezuela will most likely be glad he's no longer there. But that doesn't change the fact that Trump and all Republicans were inventing complete bullshit to excuse their coup/special 3-hour operation.
There are so many things true here, and yet the person I've above replied to chose bullshit to defend.
Criticize Trump all you want IDC but Maduro is a POS who deserves way worse than whatever he's getting and the whole country will celebrate his downfall if the news are true
I cannot speak for Iraq but I can for Venezuela. I'm among Venezuelans and they've been up literally since like 5 am when the news broke. People are out in the street celebrating and that's just here where there's an enormous community, Venezuela itself must be blowing up in a big party. Y'all just want to crap all over this because it's Trump, there's literally a million other things you can criticize him on but I can tell you WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that Venezuela cannot be happier. Not just Venezuelans but all of us Latinos are happy for our Venezuelan brothers and sisters, After they've been under a horrendous regime for like 2 decades and we hope that some of our countries are next because there is nothing we can do ourselves against our ACTUAL dictatorships
Saddam was a horrible dictator that deserved justice too, the war was still a horrible mistake that created ISIS, cost $3 trillion and left 40 thousand of our troops dead or wounded not counting all of the Iraqi casualties. Honestly, I don't know much about Venezuela, but it seems naive to assume there won't be at least a some resistance movement that forms in response to a US occupation if Trump's statement on the US running the country is accurate.
Well unlike Iraq this was not a prolonged war (not a war at all) and there were no US casualties, I don't even know if there were any Venezuelan casualties, my guess would be yes but only a few and from the people who were guarding the dude. Also unlike Iraq this is a western country with no US hating terrorist organizations and a big Venezuelan population within the US, all I see is glad Venezuelans. I don't think I'm naive in thinking there won't be any pushback against the US, in fact I'm willing to bet on it. Only possible pushback that comes to mind is from the other dictatorships intervening like Cuba or Nicaragua which I highly doubt because they wouldn't want to draw attention to their own countries and become the next target, and they wouldn't stand a chance against the US (the people of those countries would also be glad if the US took away their dictators too) I'm sure there might be some commotion in all the celebration and low level crime but all the Venezuelans I've met (many, there's a humongous community over here who have fled the country) are peaceful people who are fed up by a dictatorship who has starved them and they are extremely glad and celebrating literally out in the streets that this happened. Iraq was about WMD that were probably non existent so the US hate I kinda understand but Maduro? Boy I don't even have to look this up, I can list right now so many things he did and probably not even say half of it but it would be enough to understand why his people despised him with a passion.
Was? You think US military involvement is over? Trump has already suggested troops will be sent in to secure oil resources. You think all of the far left paramilitary Colectivos* won't launch guerilla attacks? The taxpayer cost and death won't matter to this admin because the wealthy will make a fortune on Venezuelan oil.
Newsflash homie, all the oil money was already being stolen but this POS. The oil was always gonna be a factor and they needed to make deals with somebody because also newsflash Venezuela doesn't have the infrastructure to process all the raw oil they have, and the little they have is degraded and under-maintained. I assure you that any president of Venezuela would gladly make a deal with the US (including POS Maduro if he could) because it benefits them both, US gets oil and Venezuela becomes disgustingly rich which they need because this POS destroyed the economy where the original Bolivar became worthless (1 original bolívar (VEB) ≈ $0.00000000003 USD) and people were starved and had to reset the currency. And when it comes to your far left paramilitary, no I don't think they're gonna do jack. The US has been in Venezuela for a long while now and threatening to take action, where were these militias then? Where are they now? Why were they not guarding Maduro? Are they gonna attack the millions of people marching the streets of Venezuela celebrating as I'm typing this? Nah I really don't think so. You're talking taxpayer cost and death like there's an ongoing war or something, again the Venezuelans are literally glad about this and there are no ongoing shootouts and mass deaths. You can come back and comment I told you so here when these militias take action. A literal dictator is gone, people are happy
Y'all can down vote me to oblivion all you want but all I've seen from Venezuelans is people celebrating non stop. Idk but y'all but I have a ton of Venezuelan friends and I'm literally among Venezuelans over here. Not a single Venezuelan will be sad or angry. Only tears of joy after the end of an era of disgrace. Russia and China are world powers who would throw the biggest armies in the world and start a world war. I assure you NOT A SINGLE Venezuelan would lift a finger to defend that POS Maduro. Only defense he had was whatever military he had. Don't take my word for it, instead of listening to your brainwashed news look up any news from Miami in Doral where the Venezuelan community is celebrating, or actual Venezuelan news. Politicians from one side will be doing what they were paid for and crap all over this but if you open any Latino news like Telemundo you will see what actual latinos feel about this, Joy nothing but joy
Hopefully the guy who actually won their last election will step in. Or the woman who won the Nobel Peace Prize last year for her opposition to Maduro. They have some good candidates.
The guy who actually won sure, why not, but please not her... she's just a Trump-puppet and wants to sell off her country to line her pockets, she's bound to just be just as bad as Maduro
This isn’t a Pinochet situation. They may revote, but Edmundo Gonzalez was the democratically elected candidate for Venezuela and is internationally recognized as the President of Venezuela. He’s also a lifelong diplomat for Venezuela.
Maduro was a human rights abusing murderer and dictator. If the Venezuelan people are in a worse place in 5 years because Gonzalez became a ruthless dictator, I’ll cut off my pinky toe and eat it.
I do hope Gonzalez will get to power, don't get me wrong, I'm simply uncertain whether some parties won't try to interfere with that given the way things are going lately
Modern medicine could find a way to cure spinal injuries, giving people the ability to walk again, kiss and hug their families, and people would still find an angle to complain about it
Yeah, but America bad. If America did something, obviously the other guy is a victim and victims never did anything wrong ever! Because America bad you see.
I'd love to know how many redditors even know where Venezuela is on a map, let alone anything about the country
Like go to the Venezuelan subs and people are happy, like one lengthy comment explained that Maduro sucks so hard, they don't care if trump just wants to steal oil since Maduro already did that anyway, they just hope this change could bring improvements
You really can't trust the opinion of reddit, remember during the US presidential election, reddit opinion would make you think the majority wanted Harris/Biden to win, but that was a lie. It doesn't represent the majority and it's full of bots and others trying to push a different narrative from the truth.
So what exactly is horrible about maduro? Cannot find anything for the life of me except trump saying he is a cartel boss. But Trump's claims are worth the same as a rock is valued in money.
Yup, that’s basically the essence of it. I just hope the power vacuum that’s been created won’t make things worse, but who am I kidding, it probably will.
Thing is, this might (very big emphasis on that might) be an easy rare win for him since Maduro was such an incompetent person, so if he installs someone that's even half competent, Venezuela will be better off, even just a little bit.
Nicolás Maduro was originally indicted by the U.S. Department of Justice on March 26, 2020.
Announced by then-Attorney General William Barr, the 2020 indictment charged Maduro and 14 other current and former Venezuelan officials with narco-terrorism, corruption, and drug trafficking.
This is going to be the new universal reaction image for chaotic good. The meme potential here is off the charts already. It perfectly captures that "I've made a terrible, yet somehow correct, decision" vibe. I can't wait to see how people use it.
A few weeks from now, they'll be best friends! In fact, they will be such good friends, Maduro's going to just let Trump have all of the oil, and agree to never speak to each other again!
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u/Coltyn03I really just wanted to know how long these flairs can be, ok???Jan 03 '26
You could have also just left it as "But I did kidnap his wife" and it would have still been accurate.
"BBC Verify is working through a number of videos showing explosions, fire and smoke in locations around Caracas to identify exactly which sites were targeted.
It has confirmed five locations, so far:
Generalissimo Francisco de Miranda Air Base, an airfield known as La Carlota
Fuerte Tiuna, a key military facility in Caracas
Port La Guaira, Caracas' main conduit to the Caribbean Sea, located in Miranda state
Higuerote Airport, also located in Miranda state, just east of Caracas
Antenas El Volcan, a telecomms towers on Cerro El Volcan, a high peak in Miranda state"
Maduro captured and flown out of the country. Dude has this ever been done before? I love it. Thats quite the powerplay. Think about it, bring him to face a courtroom at the international stage. Face a televised trial. Thats one way to avoid a prolonged conflict.
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u/GladDrawing | Jan 03 '26
Nicolás Maduro.. will return.. in Avengers Doomsday