r/dataanalysis • u/duneofarrakis • 9d ago
Data Question When should you use SQL vs Python for data analysis?
oth SQL and Python can be used to clean, transform, and analyze data.
How do you decide which one to use for a particular task?
Do you usually do most of the data preparation in SQL and use Python for deeper analysis, or does it depend on the project?
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u/justanothersnek 8d ago edited 7d ago
It depends...
Other than the obvious which is use whatever you are most proficient in. In some instances, Excel is better if you want to quickly filter, aggregate, or be directly hands on with the data. Setting up Python and maintaining it to work with various kinds of data and systems can be very tedious.
Also depends on size of data. Using solely python, where you are using in-memory solution, you can quickly get out-of-memory errors or your computer just hangs, becomes unresponsive when working with data larger than your local machine's available RAM. Then you can use Python with streaming or chunking techniques or use with a database server or use with a distributed compute/storage solution. But then trying to setup Python to work with a distributed framework is not trivial.
Are you working at a company currently? Does the company's IT support Python? Would you be the lone wolf Python person? There are also organisational friction with regards to using Python in a corporate environment.
I can go on and on. So the answer is still... it depends.
EDIT: Ideally, one could use both. Use SQL when the SQL query would not be tedious to write and debug, in which case, use a Python dataframe library instead. I have used pandas and PySpark. I know there is polars, but I personally would not want to maintain 3 different dataframe dialects knowledge. Im not dropping Pandas because several libraries support it by default or not willing or have the resources to support polars. Furthermore, with sqlframe library, I can just use PySpark dataframe API for "medium" sized data where polars is more suited for than pandas. So I dont really have a need to learn polars.
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u/Remarkable_Raisin641 8d ago
FYI; You can lazload data in python so it's not read into memory using polars or duckdb so the above statement is not quite correct. Polars is the bomb and super fast. But like other people have mentioned, depends on the use case as to what tool is best. 'not every job requires a hammer'
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u/justanothersnek 8d ago
That is why I mentioned streaming or chunking techniques. If I was new to data world, I would definitely learn polars. I've been in data for 25+ years, so I started with pandas many years ago. I just dont think it is worth it for me to learn polars on top of 2 other dataframe libraries. To each their own!
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u/duneofarrakis 8d ago
That's a good point it's not just about what the tools can do, but also data size, infrastructure, and what the company supports. I like the idea of using SQL and Python together instead of forcing everything into one tool.
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u/justanothersnek 7d ago edited 7d ago
From my experience, this is what ends up happening in the real world
- SQL for the heavy lifting of data
- Python for automation (executing the SQL) and/or using it as a glue to integrate systems or processes. Then corp IT gets mad
- Excel and/or Tableau for exploratory analysis Because at the end of the day, Python is still a coding language. When compared to a GUI workflow, Python workflow is still tedious and its GUI frameworks are not great.
My least tedious workflow when I put on a data analyst hat was use Excel as a front end and use Python xlwings library as it was the easiest and fastest to get something out working.
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u/Expensive_Capital627 8d ago
The lines blur a lot. For me, most of it is going to come down to the limitations of your tools. I’ve worked at companies where the cost of a sql query was determined by compute, in which cases sql was often used to just pull data, and most analytical work was done in python. I’ve worked at companies where the cost of a sql query was determined by how much data was being scanned. Complex logic was being done in SQL, because storage was cheap and it was often more cost effective to pre-aggregate tables. I’d say 70-80% of the work overlaps and you can probably use either effectively to get the job done.
People are saying Python for transformations, but if your company uses a tool like dbt, your transformations can largely be done with sql.
You might use python for bespoke visualizations, unless your company has tableau which has very powerful visualization customization.
As a rule of thumb, SQL is often cleaner, so for most deliverables headed to production SQL has been preferred by previous and current teams. If there’s a library in python that makes the work easier, python is preferred.
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u/DiscountStunning919 7d ago
ive been a data engineer for 20 years and i have never used python in my life. ive manipulated data in any way shape or form. json, xml, whatever format u got. i have never had any issues using sql alone.
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u/5e884898da 8d ago edited 8d ago
What does the company already use? What choice will ensure the code will not go stale and forgotten? What’s the cost associated with either? What transformations are you actually doing? More often than not it’s the first two who should decide what you should use, because the consequences of making up your own shit in a small corner of the business have a huge cost. It will be forgotten about, it will not be maintained, if it is, it’s still a massive pain to maintain and having to incorporate it into the existing data architecture means it will need its own dedicated project. It’s easier these days with ai, but you still need someone to do it to make it available to the business at large.
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u/asevans48 8d ago
Increasingly, it depends. If its highly complex with a lot of nuances, python. That threshold is higher for tools like big query that can use javascript and vertex ai/ml in sql for clustering, regression, gis and address tasks, and so much more. Applying filter rules to odd shaped boundaries in a documentable way is where we recently drew the boundary.
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u/meshifthenelse 8d ago
I mean with AI, why not do both and see which is more readable?
It all comes down to what the query is actually doing. If you do have a pipeline with inputs and outputs it shouldn't be a problem switching between whatever tool is best.
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u/duneofarrakis 8d ago
Exactly. I think the task should drive the choice rather than sticking to one tool. Using whichever approach produces clearer and easier-to-maintain code makes sense.
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u/No_Ambition8323 7d ago
Yes, it depends on the project and the type of task. I usually prefer SQL for filtering, joining, aggregating, and working with large datasets directly in the database. I use Python when I need more complex transformations, deeper analysis, visualizations, or automation. In many projects, using both works best—SQL for preparing the data and Python for further analysis.
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u/TomorrowThat6628 8d ago
For statistical analysis, neither: R or another dedicated statistical package.
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u/EditorDue6725 7d ago
Usually SQL first to pull and clean the data, then Python if I need stats, charts, or anything more complicated. Really depends on the project though.
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u/Lady-Data-Scientist 7d ago
When I need to get data out of the database - SQL
When I need to do something with the data - Python
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u/KatFromSisense 7d ago
I don't think the choice has to stay the same from start to finish. I might use Python while I'm poking around, especially if I'm pulling in files or doing statistical work.
If that same logic starts feeding a dashboard every week, I'd probably move the stable part into SQL/dbt so it lives with the rest of the shared transformations and someone else can maintain it later.
Sometimes Python is where I figure out the answer, and SQL is where I put the part we decide to keep.
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u/white_tiger_dream 8d ago
I use SQL exclusively, I have never used python. Everything I guess I might need python for I use a tool. Generally I would say your assumption of “data prep in SQL and python for analysis” is probably backwards or wrong, SQL is preferred for analysis and usually when I encounter python it’s because someone set up some part of a pipeline with it.
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u/justanothersnek 7d ago
Curious what "analysis" means when you're doing it with SQL? In my experience, SQL is ok for simple counts and aggregations, but doing exploratory analysis with SQL? No thank you. That looks like parameterized queries with a GUI on top. That is the only way to make it somewhat manageable or untedious.
What I've seen ends up happening in real world eventually:
- SQL for the heavy processing of data
- Python for automation (executing the SQL) and/or using it as a glue to integrate systems or processes. Then corp IT gets mad.
- Excel or Tableau for exploratory analysis
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u/duneofarrakis 8d ago
That’s interesting. I usually think of Python as the analysis tool, so it’s useful to hear that SQL can handle most of the analysis work in practice. It really seems to depend on the company and the type of data you’re working with.
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u/Man-O-Light 8d ago
SQL is good for queries but not meant for complex transformations, like when a proper ETL pipeline is needed. It's perfect for aggregating data and a clean input-output analysis. But the moment you need it to run through a few steps, you'll need something like pandas likely. Business logic is also better expressed in Python.