r/deism • u/Senior-Cap-7248 Agnostic-deist • 9d ago
Accepting uncertainty
Ok this is kinda my rant. Personally I’m more agnostic, but if the uncertainty frustrates me when I think about it, especially when it comes to debates and arguments. Do any of you feel that way?
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u/maddpsyintyst Agnostic Deist 9d ago
All I know is that I wasn't born knowing anything, and I'll die not being able to know everything. I think that's true of everyone, every time.
If I can come up with something to help mitigate that for anyone, then I can face the end anytime knowing that I haven't left behind nothing.
I hope someone finds that expression amusing somehow.
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u/jeffersonnn Deist 9d ago edited 9d ago
I’m certain that from the simple chain of cause and effect that we know determines physics, it can be deduced that there must have been something impersonal, whether a set of conditions or something related to the big bang, which established our natural laws and which the structure of our psychology, our society, and our universe is ultimately derived from.
And that initial thing had much more of a role in determining the clockwork of the universe I have to navigate than I do. That’s the only thing I care about. To me, this isn’t just an exercise to satisfy my curiosity, this is about what framework best describes our relationship with the universe. And that’s what “God” has always been to people, an attempt to understand the necessary conditions for their survival. I think this is the best understanding of God. To call the prime mover or first cause “God” is to put it in a place of primacy instead of trivializing it and pretending we’re much more important.
I don’t believe we’re the kings of the universe and I don’t believe in the atheistic or humanist idea that any set of values will work just as well as any other. I respect the “watchmaker god” and the supremacy of reason in the universe over emotion, and I subordinate my life to reason in accordance with the structure of the universe.