"Cool toh" rin si atty di ba?

Pinayagan din ba ng mga taga Central na dumalo sya sa grand opening ng Kingdom of Jesus Christ Kingdome sa Davao?

And naaalala nyo ba yung texto na mahigpit ipinagbabawal ang pagsali sa mga Political Parties? (si Markubeta ay independent)

Alam nyo ba na siya ay myembro ng PDP?

Beke nemen mey gusto magulat.

Have been an organist since my early teens. Professionally trained in music.

But it urks me that you always have to “submit” to all these choir directors that don’t know shit. Most of them are just nepo babies that got recruited cause they don’t have any real career outside of this makeshift “job”.

I’m so annoyed that everyone in my district (outside the PH) doesn’t know what the fuck they’re doing. They play so bad and you can’t speak up cause it’s “arrogance”.

If I’m professionally trained you know damn well I’m gonna be arrogant, especially when the brethren prefer my playing because it’s actually church-worthy. I thought the main point is to give God the “highest praise”? Whatever happened to that? It’s not like I talk trash like some mad scientist, but come on, we should recognize real talent and constructive criticism where applicable if our aim is actually top level performances, no?

Don’t even get me started on the long-ass fuckin practices and the yap sessions and all the fucking gaslighting and guilt-tripping. I’m starting to outgrow this office which is a shame because I feel like I really could’ve contributed a lot to music but hey, hindi ka kailangan ng Iglesia, kailangan mo ang Iglesia, right?

Welp. Good thing I have other things going on in my life.

I'm so happy! Well sort of, I heard a gossip that they were talking about when a person's teenage child wrote "kulto" on something I don't know.

Well they were exchanging their perspectives and even asked a person in the house who wasn't an Iglesia ni Cristo on how it was a "cult". Well let's just say that that person had great points. How a cult only listens to a leader which you know, automatically is Iglesia ni Cristo without a doubt. But honestly what my parents thought about is they thought it was about depression or a demon. Lol they were dumb but I can't lie, being an Iglesia ni Cristo can be tiring.

And you know my parents even said to me "Hey ----, If you don't wanna continue being as Iglesia ni Cristo, just say it and don't be like that person." (not exact) And i was like happy on the inside, Fyi, my grandmother invited me to join this (i was baptized already). Mind you, i had a great mood coming to school because what do you mean my parents know i have full control on what i believe in?

Well that's all, I'm planning to leave once school ends or on Christmas break because I'm not wasting this chance to come back as a Catholic so i can do carolings and join the mass again. I wish others the same and could leave soon.

and its good that they are. but im not sure if they realize that a lot of those here on reddit had their opinions of the church formed already before they went here on reddit. this space is just a place for discussion with many others who share similar experiences regarding the church.

its like, when you have your local leadership meeting, and you can tell when many are not in agreement after that meeting, they hold another "meeting" and the officers talk with each other, and voice out their concerns and frustrations.

a lot of those who came to this forum, were already pissed off, frustrated, or in disagreement before they reached this place.

dont blame reddit and maybe ask why there are so many who post here.

ask why there are those who are leaving the church, why there are many who want to leave the church but feel trapped.

In barely a year and a half, Iglesia Ni Cristo staged the January 13, 2025 National Rally for Peace, the November 16–17, 2025 Rally for Transparency and a Better Democracy, and the June 30–July 2, 2026 “We Are One” demonstration over the flood control corruption scandal.

By November, INC had managed to turn protesting corruption into an overnight campout with members bringing tents, sleeping at the venue and getting entertained by INC performers between rounds of messaging. Apparently INC’s idea of political action is a giant church sleepover with singers and corny slogans. If the goal is to confront corruption and force systemic change, the political uselessness of the format is hard to miss. Protest pressure is supposed to create friction that people in power cannot comfortably ignore. INC strips that tension and disruption away by keeping members stationary, entertained and camped at the venue while the corrupt officials they came to pressure can sleep through it at home. The people demanding change end up suffering the inconvenience while power stays comfortably untouched.

The unnecessary stage show just makes the whole setup look even more ridiculous. Anti-corruption protests run on productive outrage, urgency and confrontation, but INC drains that necessary energy and reduces the crowd to a passive audience waiting for the next singer to perform. INC converts political anger into propaganda concerts and mass loyalty spectacles that function more like church bonding festivals than pressure campaigns. The Church calls them protests for transparency, accountability, justice, peace and better democracy, but the format actively undercuts those goals. If this is their idea of fighting corruption, why stage it like a church concert with phony political slogans?

have you heard of intensive renewal of life?

it seems as the theme these days is intensive monitoring.

they are not monitoring to take care, they're monitoring to see who is against the administration.

its not just the ministers, its not just them who are trying to get a feel for where families stand when they visit their homes

the officers too, are monitoring the brethren, and you know what, those officers are being monitored too.

would you call that toxic? would you call that cult like?

I just want to ask po, maytungkulin po ako and di ako tumutupad dito sa nilipatan ko na lokal (pinilit ako magkaroon ng tungkulin ng parents bc sila rin is active and maytungkulin lahat ng pamilya namin :/) naka-NO po kasi yung maytungkulin sa transfer, and magagalit parents ko if di ako tumutupad na naman. I just want to ask what should I do to falsify the transfer? Can I just remove it with the ones na ginagamit ng mga engineering kapag may mali sila na ballpen ang gamit or what? Makikita pa rin po ba sya sa system nila? naka computerized na kasi lahat 🫪

Nasstress na po ako grabe talaga sobrang higpit na nila ngayon, dati nalulusutan ko pa to

Tumambay lang ako sa bahay Nila and movie marathon narin after movie marathon bigla pa naman ako, pinayuhan about sapag papasakop sa pamamahala ng iglesia ni cristo, ako nakikinig lang ako at hindi nalang na imik sa kaniya,

Sabi pa naman niya walang napapahamak sapag sunod sa pamamahala, yung mga lumaban ayun ang napasama at nasumpa ang buhay ayon sa kaniya, kumbaga siya ok lang na simple lang ang pamumuhay niya nakakain at nakakasamba, Proud pa nga siyang pinakit niya saakin yung pang handog niya, at yung tanging handugan niya at kaniyang lagak, dahil katwiran niya binabalik lang naman ng ama yun para sa kaniya,

Minsan pumapasok din sa isipan ko alam niya din ba na may iilang ministro din na tuwing election ay tumatanggap din ng pera sa mga politiko, Oo merong pagtitiwalag sa iglesia pero pagdating sa pera na ang usapan nawawala narin yung kanilang pagiging ministro sa iglesia,

Sa sobrang devoted niya sa iglesia ok lang sa kaniya mag tiis ng hirap sa buhay, alang alang sa aral at pagsunod sa pamamahala.

Destinado? I think that's what they're called and Jesus Christ, they came to the house and they saw me. I have a streak of not showing up but I screwed up earlier because I was taking a shower and to get to my room, you can see the person in the hall from the living room. I'm like so pissed off because I've always hated making appearances there.

Skip to like ten minutes, I got forced to get out of my room since they already saw me and I don't want to anger my aunt any more. These people asked so many questions like I was being interrogated for a crime. They ask about my school activities (I study in a Catholic school which is ironic since the cult loathes them) and they even tried making suggestions like attending New Era University (I heavily dislike that school lol I wanted to tell them so bad I want to attend De La Salle instead) and even "step out of my comfort zone" (implying I appear to these visits they make). L for them cus idgaf I'm choosing everything else than them.

The point of the visit was for a tagubilin, in which, I zoned out for the most part. What I heard mostly was that they were denying accusations that Marcoleta was not involved in the flood control project issue. I don't remember what they said after that since again, I zoned out. I hate listening to them. Legit they had me so uncomfortable I was looking away every second.

Yan ang problema, binaha kayo. Tapos paparescue kayo sa Sanlibutan aray ko. Alam ng masama ang panahon, baha na, ipipilit pa.

May rally ulit, possible before or after September 3. Balak daw harangin yung bail ni Marcoleta para makalaya. Ayun lang muna, atras abante sila kasi dahil na rin sa panahon at may nagli leak ng mga next steps nila.

Maingay na rin mga pages/propaganda nila. Kaya maging mas mapagmatiyag.

Kung ramdam natin na may binabalak nanaman si ediboi and friends, dapat maging mapanuri tayo at sana makarating agad sa kinauukulan lalo sa malacañan. Kung sinoman po ang may kakilala sa palasyo o sa militar/pulisya/dilg, sana maparating natin as babala. Namimihasa masyado ang kulto sa pagkakalat at pamemerwisyo sa mga taga-metro manila. Lahat gagawin nila para manatiling makapangyarihan at maimpluwensya.

Pabonggahan nanaman ang mga kasuotan na galing sa pagmomolestya sa mga kapatid at galing sa mga kani kaniyang negosyo na patagong ginagawa. (Yes, marami sa mga ministro ang nagnenegosyo na lubhang ipinagbabawal, kasi yung mga nasa taas lang ang pupwede 🤣)

Lapag nyo din dito mga ipaparaffle na galing sa mga handog. Nabalitaan ko na may mga pa kotse ulit, mga appliances and travel & tour package.

parant lang AAAAAAAAAAHHHH hirap magka jowa ng inc as a non member tapos ayaw ko naman lumipat din hahah what a life wala naman masama magmahal pero bkt gan2 ..... dami consequences!!! mali b tlga toh sa mata ng Diyos kung sabi Niya nga love thy neighbor anuna akala ko bang strict adherence sa Bibliya sak8888

Wala pa akong nakikitang post dito sa subreddit na pinapagusapan to e, so kahapon lang ay dinalaw kami ng destinado ng lokal namin. Hindi ko alam kung para saan nung una pero habang tumatagal na naghihintay ako, may sinabi yung katabi ko na about kay Marcoleta yung babasahin nilang bilin.

Eto na nga, nasa loob na ng bahay yung destinado at nanalangin muna kami bago niya kami pinaupo at kinuha yung bondpaper na nakastapler.

Nagstart siya na magbigay ng pahapyaw, sinabi na alam naman daw namin yung kalagayan ng bansa, at sinabi na kailangang managot ang mga kurap at mga nagbigay ng maling pangako para sa bayan. Dinagdagan pa na noon pa raw gumagawa at sumasali ang INC inculto sa mga ganitong usapin katulad noong Marso 1965 sa Cuenco Bill, o pagtuturo ng relihiyon sa mga paaralan, pero ang layo naman ng usapin na yan sa mga kurap at sa pilit nilang pinoprotektahan na si Marcoleta.

Sinabi rin dito na hindi binayaran si Marcoleta habang nagccampaign siya dahil nagsangayon naman daw sina EVM na tumakbo siya. Hindi raw siya binayaran sa campaigning dahil galing daw yun sa mga private individuals. (sorry kung may mali ako na nilagay dito). They even went as far na i-address si Marcoleta as “Ka Dante”.

Napatanong nalang ako na bakit nila dapat iisa-isahin yung mga kapatid at hindi nalang to sabihin sa bawat purok o mas malawak pa, sa pagsamba?

Sorry kung may mga mali akong nalagay, medyo nakalimutan ko na kasi. Alam ko na may mga ministro din na iikot at hindi lamang ang destinado para maibasa ito sa mga kapatid.

Keep safe, everyone!

TL;DR - Bumisita yung desinado sa bahay namin para basahij yung binigay sa kanila ng pamamahala na anti-corruption at para sabihin na di binayad si Marcoleta sa campaigning.

Nagdadalaw ang mga mangagawa at nileleksyon ang flood control sa bawat pamilyang pinupuntahan nila. Aware ba kayo rito? At anong propesyon nila bakit kailangan nilang ipaliwanag ang ganong mga bagay.

her family is fully devoted in this religion to the point that one of her brother is currently practising ministral class and soon to be called as Minister.

Ganto guys bale ung babae na gusto kong ligawan is willing magpaligaw pero yon ay kung Cult naren ako that's why umaattend naren ako sa pagsamba para gradually maintindihan ko ung mga pangaral sa simbahan ang kaso di ko talaga mafeel ung presence na gusto ko kapag ako ay umaattend ng church, by the way I am a Born again Christian. May mga nakuwento rin syang sexual harassment from their church members, ministro and even ung "Pangulo" nila​​ nung una is through online harrasment sa mga chats then itong pangulo is nanghipo na sa loob ng dressing room nklang mga babae and sobrang takot sya pero di nya magawa magsumbong kase nga "devoted sila" at baka sya ay mapahiya lang. Fast forward may mga times na nagchachat paren ang pangulo regarding sa pag attend attend sa mga gawain pero sa totoo lang is gusto lang sya makita and probably harassin ulet since di nga sya nagsusumbong, The reason why kung bakit andito paren ako sa sitwasyon natoh is dahil sa possiblities na maalis ko sya sa religion nila since sumasama naman sya saken and napansin ko den na sya devoted unlike sa family nya. May mga di kame pagkakaintindihan lalo kapag sinasabi ko na e block nya na ung pangulo kaso natatakot talaga sya na baka ipahiya sya.... Now gusto ko sya e pursue pero in a way na di ko need maging INC kaya guys help nyoko ano pinakabest na gawin kase ayaw ko talaga mag join pero gustong gusto ko siya. Napamahal sa Cult eh.​​

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I grew up as a devoted member of Iglesia Ni Cristo. Both of my parents were born into the church and held positions in the congregation, so religion was a major part of my childhood.

Even when I was young, though, I often felt that something about the world was different. I had strange thoughts—like maybe I was the only real character and everyone else was an NPC, or maybe we were somehow all connected. At the time, I treated these thoughts like stories in my imagination, the way children create entire worlds in their minds.

As I grew older and lived away from my parents, I started doing things I had been taught were sinful—premarital sex, drinking, stealing, and other choices I knew went against what I had been taught. Sometimes I would even wonder, “When am I going to be punished?”

My perspective changed even more after I met my husband and had a profound experience with a psychedelic mushroom. It made me question many of the beliefs and systems I had accepted since childhood.

I began questioning religion, government, education, and the many structures that teach us how we are supposed to live. For me, it became a realization that perhaps we spend so much time following systems, expectations, and distractions that we forget to deeply examine who we are and how connected we are to one another and to nature.

I understand that not everyone will see things the way I do. Some people may even think my experience sounds strange or unbelievable. I can only speak from what I personally experienced and how deeply it changed my perspective.

What I came away with was a strong feeling of connection—that beneath all our differences, we share the same humanity.

I hope we can question, learn, understand one another, and live with more compassion.

Sending love to everyone. ❤️

Watching this video and the comments of how Apollo got into politics to gain money was a strong sign of why the Manalo CULT wants to get involved with Philippines politics.