r/exjw 10h ago

Venting Question for ex/jw community: tell me how would you feel about this situation?

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A sister from old hall I consider her my friend initially. She study with me last year and I confided in her a lot. Also, I told her I stop going to hall and she didn’t judge but told me I should go back.

I finally feel free and I still read the bible just not jw bible. I have better knowledge of scriptures now as I see jw changes wording a lot in their bibles contrary to other bibles. She plan for us last week to see me for dinner. She plan on 8/28 ( Friday) then change to 8/31 I was eager to see her because I didn’t see her since beginning of this year. I literally had a dream she would cancel but I figured hey just a dumb dream. So as Sunday go by she says nothing finally on 8/31 ( Monday ) I reach out and said hey we still doing dinner at 1pm? She give me this bull shit excuse saying, it’s the end of the year she gotta finish her pioneer time. She also rescheduled promise on 9/4 we can get together. She says Don’t be upset ! I told her my intuition was right and I’m chill and I said unfortunately I’m not available on the date she rescheduled and she says oh ok then let’s coordinate another day.

I’m like fuck u in my head. She cancel on 3 days 3 times no apologizes but I bet her lying ass cheating ex husband who had outsides kids in which she got a permanent restraining order against him if he made she would make plans with him still and not cancel. How I know? When they daughter Graduating she told me they all going out to dinner and planning to buy her daughter a gift. Meanwhile, I watch this sister struggle financially to buy her 2 two cars while her ex husband drives in a brand new leather Camaro. Plus this sister brags about going to her ex husband father house to feed him food when the ex husband has a new wife. Hey non of business right? But yet she feels compels to tell her business like that. I feel like shit. I would place her such on pedal stool. Cause she always say oh I don’t get involved any wrong doing. I keep to myself and blah blah but then she tells sisters don’t like her and jealous and shit. She acts so perfect


r/exjw 7h ago

Ask ExJW Just as a Hypothetical, lets say Everything the JW's say is true

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Let’s try a hypothetical.

Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that everything the organization teaches is true. The Governing Body really is being directed by God. The organization really is God’s organization. The governments one day randomly and unexpectedly hand their power and authority over to the United Nations. Then comes the declaration of “peace and security,” the Great Tribulation begins, and organized religion is attacked and ultimately destroyed.

In other words, imagine that the events you were taught to expect actually start unfolding right in front of you.

Now, under that scenario, let’s say you’re POMO or POMI. Maybe you’ve been out for years. Maybe you’ve spent years criticizing the organization or even openly identifying as an “apostate.”

I genuinely want you to think about what you would do next.

Would you still believe that none of it was real? Would you assume there was some other explanation for what was happening? Or would seeing those events unfold exactly as you had been taught cause you to reconsider everything and try to return to the organization?

And if you would go back, at what point would you do it? When the declaration of peace and security happened? When governments turned against religion? Would you wait until there was absolutely no doubt left in your mind?

This is purely a hypothetical. I know some people hate these kinds of questions, but that’s the entire point of the exercise: forget what you currently believe for a moment and imagine that it all turned out to be true. What would you actually do?


r/exjw 7h ago

HELP How do i be less afraid of my bf and talking about my doubts? :/

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I’m a 21F PIMO dating someone outside the org and living a double life. When we started dating i was still very devoted. However, I haven’t been to a meeting in about 2 months and my bf obvi took notice. In the last year of our relationship everytime he tried to talk to me about the org i immediately shut down because im not totally mentally out. So asking questions or looking for answers feels like im betraying my friends, family, and everything ive believed my entire life. I know that’s because we were trained to never question.

Also because of the cult, i have such a deathly fear of being perceived. I’m scared he will wrong me or judge me since i know how against he is about the org. So i freeze. It’s like my nervous system is in shock. Once he got a lil passionate and said “you don’t think because your scared too” and ever sense that it made me really not want to talk to him out of spite. I understand his frustration but not really.

He brought up very subtly about me not going to meetings and i got defensive and told him not to confront me rn. I feel bad bc i know he wants to know how im feeling. But sometimes it just feels like he wants to know out of curiosity instead of wanted to help me. I need support im at the lowest ive ever been in my life and i want to talk to him about it but im so scared of him.

Am i the problem? How do i open about my doubts? Lowk im the very sad wine drunk so might just do that and air myself out lol.


r/exjw 6h ago

Venting Dynasties of Shadow & Coin, Part 2: The Black Nobility & Epstein

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Randomly, I am an ex-JW, and even seeing them on the corner makes me want to start shouting. Oddly, I have a YouTube channel, and while I was searching for a community to post my bloodline video on, this group appeared. I stopped going when I was 13. My mother is still very much involved; she turned people into the elders and spied on us. My childhood was truly horrific. One of the elders had a sexual relationship—more like statutory rape—with my sister, and the elders came to our house and told my dad she wasn't a virgin. My dad said, "You mean my 16-year-old daughter and that 23-year-old criminal? Get the fuck out of my house before I have you arrested, and he better recant that tale." I am going to leave my link and my history. I still shiver thinking about those Kingdom Hall meetings. Also, the Epstein files alerted me that some of what they taught us was real, like people sacrificing children, which I always thought was just a tall tale. Plus, I still have a fear of birds from the Bible storybooks; I still think they will peck out my eyes.


r/exjw 7h ago

WT Can't Stop Me AI generated pictures of young girls in ministry service

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My Facebook feed shows me AI generated pictures of young girls in the ministry. None of the comments debunk them as AI, everyone sends hearts and bibletexts.

Boomer behaviour or just blind?


r/exjw 4h ago

Venting One of my boyfriends (non jw) friends is a pimi

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hi I am 17 F, currently in a relationship with 16M who's non jw. One of his friends is a pimi girl his age, some of his friends know about us but I am just super worried about her finding out because her dad is a powerful elder also my dad is a elder. if anyone such as the elders were to find out about our "activities" I'd definitely get a judicial committee. I really love him, I just feel so trapped in my current situation with the jw shit. I find it hard that I can't be open about my relationship but it's just what it is. I just get so scared of her finding out because it could ruin my life.

UPDATE: my boyfriend told his jw friend that he's dating a pimo, she says she won't tell anyone. I told him it's okay to Tell her it's me. now I'm scared but also fuck it


r/exjw 11h ago

Venting The issue of friends in the organization

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I’m sure we’ve all this issue. I’ve seen it on here like a thousand times already. Where our parents are really strict about our friends. How sometimes we lose great friendships cause they apparently “aren’t spiritual enough”. I just wanna ask for some feedback, cause I need to vent.

I grew up in a non-English hall. I’ll say Spanish since that’s common, and a bit important. So my family is obviously not white. And in Hispanic culture, or at least in the Spanish halls I’ve been to, everyone is pretty welcoming. I’ve got two friends. Ones black and the other is white. We’re all girls. They’re in different halls than me and aren’t too acquainted with each other.

My parents clearly don’t like my black friend. Before when we were younger, they were overwhelmed by her being loud or energetic. I always felt bad when they’d make jokes about it(when she wasn’t around). Then she grew up a bit and got quieter. Recently, me and her hung out and my family took us out. She was really into some employee at the place we were hanging out at. It was obvious. My parents noticed and didn’t like it. And my mom scolded me after about letting other people use my clothes and bags(I lent her my bag to use).

Mind you, she curses when my family isn’t around. And when they are, she’s really quiet. Sometimes she gives too much attitude. She doesn’t take me seriously when I ask her to behave. It’s a bit annoying how she can even just pretend in front of my parents, but I guess that’s not her problem. I just don’t feel comfortable asking to hang out again cause of how my family acted after that last outing, and I typically just avoid things that start fights at home.

Then my white friend. She’s sweet. We’re not entirely close but she has hung out with me willingly and she’s good in the eyes of my family. I just don’t think I’m good in the eyes of hers. I don’t know if it’s just them being white and the culture is different, but her family is a little cold towards me. Mostly her mum. Her mum helped my dad with something business related cause a couple in the English congregation recommended her, and my dad got the feeling she’s racist. I also learned her grandad is pretty racist too, cause a Spanish sister married her uncle, and she confirms he’s racist.

My friend isn’t, thank god. She’s really nice and pretty interested in other cultures. But mind you, her family has been in the truth for generations. Bring racist while preaching about an inclusive organization is really weird.

They aren’t my only issue. I’ve got guy friends I was close to, but they’re not baptized, and people bring it up like they’re developing a drug addiction. Or gonna become thugs. They didn’t splash in the pool so I guess that makes them bad association. There’s another sweet girl in my hall, but her dad is strict as hell. So hanging out with her is a struggle.

Its a mess, truly. While I really do love and care for all my friends, this is exhausting. Sorry for the word vomit. But thanks for reading?


r/exjw 1h ago

WT Can't Stop Me Distintivi per i congressi estivi

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Qualcuno ha mai pensato di recarsi a un congresso indossando come se nulla fosse il distintivo? Magari con un nome fittizio o indicando una congregazione molto lontana per evitare sospetti? E chissà, magari approfittando dell'evento per parlare con altri delle vostre opinioni sul corpo direttivo ecc.

Tra l'altro, confermate che un po' ovunque si è affermata la prassi secondo la quale gli uscieri, se vedono qualcuno senza distintivo, gli chiedono i documenti o gli chiedono se conosce qualcuno?


r/exjw 6h ago

Ask ExJW If Jehovah's Witnesses religion changes so much if becomes unrecognizable is it the same religion?

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The question is self explanatory.

If a religion is constantly changing

Reinventing themselves

Changing or deleting it's history

Destroying their cultural heritage

Being embarrassed of what it used to teach or believe

Calling apostate someone for reading or display what the Truth used to teach

Is it the same religion?

Or is it a different religion?


r/exjw 17h ago

Venting My friend has rape allegations

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My friend (pimi) was dating a baptized sister. In secret they were sending nudes and at one point even hooked up. After they hooked up she broke up with him and told him some harsh words. My friend was heartbroken. She tells a friend all the stuff they did in this relationship. Word travels and eventually my friend finds out that he’s been outed. He immediately tells the elders everything that night. She has to be convinced to tell the elders. She tells the elders that my friend raped her. She then begins to tell everyone that my friend raped her. Recently my friend was called to the police station to make a statement over the whole thing. Every one has stopped talking to my friend over these allegations, I’m the only one who still talks to him. He has become severely depressed, in a short amount of time he has lost his job, girlfriend, and social status. Now I know that rape is a sensitive topic and I can not say for sure what happened between them. But I don’t see my friend rapping someone. Her and her family have quite the bumpy history. I feel like this may be her way of handling the guilt or trying to put the blame on him and keep her record clean.


r/exjw 10h ago

JW / Ex-JW Tales Former JW Elder Speaks Out

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r/exjw 9h ago

JW / Ex-JW Tales The Smurf story lives on and Labubus are demons

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I'm POMO but it's not well known so I sometimes get invited to JW events. I have started a face painting business and a sister asked me to come to a thing she had planned. One of the girls asked me to paint a Labubu and an older matriarch type sister whispered to the mom that Labubus were "demonic". I told the mom right there that they were just weird mister characters from a book, like "where the wild things are". She looked it up and confirmed it and said it was fine. Then she told one of the other sisters about he Smurf story. Each sister around stated saying " So you heard that story too??" They were from different parts of the state and had all heard the Smurf story 🤣
Also when I was in Korean Gangnam Style came out and the rumor was that Psy sold his soul to the devil to be popular. Literally anything that became popular was from Satan. Until the shot. Don't hate me! Just sayin'.


r/exjw 6h ago

HELP What Do I Say? What do I explain to them??

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Hi. I am looking for advice.

For context, I am 17 and an unbaptized publisher. I live in a not-so-good household. Very unpredictable and sometimes abusive. However, I am not here to cry or vent about it. I'm looking for a solution. For an answer.

Years after I became a publisher, my bible studies ended, and I soon found myself becoming an apostate. Because I hadn't gotten a proper bible study in years, my stupid JW mother decided to make arrangements with brothers in my congregation. The first brother was a young ministerial servant. He would come home, chat with my father, chill, and give me my bible studies. However, life got in his way and he stopped coming.

Then, my mother arranged for an elderly man to do the same. It didn't last long. He was SUPER religious and conservative. He did certain things that caught me off guard, like making me "preach" to him as part of the study.

Several months after, my mother arranged for an elder to give me a bible study. This time, it lasted long, and still is. We are about to finish section 3 soon of the book, and I am freaking out. There are about 19-20 more lessons and I don't want to get baptized afterwards.

Now, here are some important details:

1. I live in an abusive house, so it's not like I was ever going to make progress

2. I have been preaching for 7 years

3. I already told him some time ago that the reason I haven't gotten baptized is because I am experiencing personal problems

4. I don't have a job or friends, and I recently began going back to school after years of being homeschooled

5. I was never interested from the start.

So, what do I do? What do I say to him when we are about to finish the book??


r/exjw 22h ago

Ask ExJW Considering pursuing reinstatement...

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Hey ya'll. Long story short, I've been disfellowshipped for almost 1 year. I am contemplating pursuing reinstatement...

for a little context: I grew up a JW, always questioned things, but kept on the path for years, even pioneered for many years and learned ASL to further my preaching career and truly loved the ministry and the people I spoke to. I endured abuse at the hands of my JW parents, some physical and emotional, ie: i wrote my name on a 2x4 that my dad would hit me with when I misbehaved.

I was reproved twice in one year, for "pornea" with a brother that I was sure I would marry, but we ended up breaking things off because of our consciences bothering us about the things we had done...all normal things that people in relationships do together. The elders were extremely hard on me and it took a long time to get privileges back.

Once I did, I moved on and eventually married a brother who I thought was by every definition of JW standards, a decent brother...he turned out to be extremely manipulative and emotionally abusive to the point of him threatening to unalive himself if I did not cooperate as he wished. I endured horrible mental health problems as a result of his abuse and ended up with a bipolar diagnosis, needing medication.

Covid is when my faith really started to erode. I noticed my husband slowly fading in his desire ti reach out and my desire faded as well. When we were told to go back to the kingdom hall after being on zoom for so long, I resisted and that apparently pushed alot of other publishers away from me, them probably thinking I was "bad association". I began gravitating toward people I worked with, and made other "worldly" friends outside of the congregation and they all were so much more supportive than anyone In the organization.

I started doing my own research on the org and to my shock and suprise, what I found was UGLY...so I started pulling away and ended up having a conversation with my spouse about how I was feeling. He was horrified and extremely upset and that drove a further wedge into our already strained marriage. We had fight after fight about this and eventually he gave me an ultimatum, that I could either rid myself of my "worldly" friends, delete all of my social media, and work on being the best "JW wife i can be", or im on my own. I chose the latter, packed up my things, and we separated.

He and all my family of course, thought I was manic and out of my mind the whole time, and tried to get me to "come to my senses". I loved my new found freedom and began rebuilding my life...we got divorced eventually and I moved away, to a metro area thats almost 3 hours away from home.

Since then, I met a man who loves me unconditionally and we are currently building a life together and I have truly never been happier! I am free to be who I am (honestly still trying to figure that out) and its been liberating, not having to play by all these arbitrary rules the organization sets out for people. Theres just one thing missing...my family.

My whole family are JWs and they all actively shun me. My dad texts me here and there, little checkins, but aside from that, im pretty much dead to them.

My grandma (dads side) died a few weeks ago and her memorial was a couple of days ago. Very heartwarming, but lots of guilt came with it. I was unable to attend in person, so I zoomed it. My dad gave the talk.

I want my family to meet my amazing boyfriend and see the life we are creating together and be a part of our lives, more than anything. I even looked up the local kingdom hall to see when the meetings are. But I dont know if I want to open that can of worms, becuase I dont want to commit to being in a religion that has hurt me in so many ways. My heart breaks all the time that my family repeatedly chooses this religion over having a relationship with me and I dont know what I should do.

Anyone else go through the reinstatement process? With the lifestyle that I have now, I dont know if it would even be possible.


r/exjw 6h ago

JW / Ex-JW Tales An "apostate" gont 2 John 7-11 right twenty-four years before the Governing Body

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In March 2024, Governing Body Update no. 2 announced that publishers may now give a simple greeting, a "hello" or "good morning", to disfellowshipped people attending meetings at the Kingdom Hall. The reason given by the spokesman was this:

"On examining the context of these verses [2 John 7-11], the Governing Body came to the conclusion that the apostle John was actually talking about apostates and others who actively promote wrong conduct."

For more than fifty years the organisation's literature had imposed total shunning on anyone who was disfellowshipped, teaching that even a trivial greeting was categorically forbidden by God, and that John's instruction in 2 John 11 (resting on the Greek word chairo) ruled out so much as a "good morning" (The Watchtower, 15 April 1988, pp. 27-28).

The irony is that the error corrected in 2024 had already been identified on my site in 2000. Not the exegesis in general, but the specific point: the Watch Tower applied to every disfellowshipped person, whatever the reason for the removal, a passage that concerned people who denied that Jesus had come in the flesh. Here is what was written at the time:

"The text tells us not to receive into our homes, and not to greet, a certain kind of person. Reading the immediate context, it is clear the apostle was speaking of those who denied the fundamental truth (for Christianity) that Jesus was the Son of God come in the flesh (v. 7). These are the ones he calls 'antichrists'. The Witnesses rely on this passage above all to justify their shunning of disfellowshipped people. Reading even these few verses carefully [...] it is more than evident that they are misusing the apostle's words. John writes: 'if anyone comes to you', so he is referring to people who went into Christians' homes in order to draw them away from the teaching of Christ, not away from some human organisation. [...] The Witnesses instead apply this passage to everyone who is disfellowshipped, whatever the reason may be."

So someone the organisation labels an apostate reached the correct conclusion simply by reading the biblical text in its context, twenty-four years before the men who claim to be God's only channel, guided by holy spirit. Interpretations presented for decades as "Jehovah's view" turn out to be human directives, shaped and reshaped as organisational convenience requires.

The page is in Italian, but every citation points back to the original publications.

Original:

https://www.infotdgeova.it/3dottrine/testimoni-di-geova-e-disassociazione.html#saluto-apostati

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r/exjw 11h ago

PIMO Life From Adventists to Jehovah’s Witnesses: The Origin of the Errors

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I am a recent PIMO “APOSTATE.” This message is for those who are also recent, and maybe this happens to everyone. Doubts like “Are we the ones who are wrong?” are common. I did some research that may help.

First, we need to understand where the Bible Students came from. It all started in a time of great events in the USA. Protestantism was booming, and in that same 19th century, along with what would become Jehovah’s Witnesses, two other groups also appeared: the Mormons and the Adventist Church.

The Mormons are a surreal case — I recommend you research them too. The Adventist Church is very similar to Jehovah’s Witnesses. They predicted that the end of the world would come in 1844. When it didn’t happen, they reinterpreted the date, saying that Jesus had begun examining the sins of the peoples in an invisible way. Does that remind you of something? 1914, maybe?

As is well known, the Bible Students associated with the Adventists for a time until they separated because of biblical disagreements. But the Bible Students carried over from the Adventists things like biblical numerology and the attempt to decipher abstract concepts. After all, if you can identify a number in the Bible, you can present yourself as an exclusive channel of God.

The first great “revelation” was 1914 — and it was a disappointment. So they reinterpreted it as the invisible Kingdom of Jesus. They even claimed that Jesus’ words “this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur” applied to all the anointed ones of that time, meaning the end of the world would come before those anointed ones died. But by 1970 practically all the anointed ones from 1914 were already dead, so they had to reinterpret it again and extend it to another generation.

But how far is this logical? Wouldn’t it be better and more sensible not to state such things with absolute certainty? Why so much arrogance?

They also got 1925 wrong, and 1944 the same. A house for Abraham? What madness was that? Why do they hide these things from the rank-and-file?

Then we come to 1975. Decades in advance they predicted that the end of the world would probably occur in 1975. Why so much boldness? When nothing happened, they blamed the brothers. They were wrong again.

If they got it wrong so many times, what is the probability that 1914 is also false? Very high. Yet in the real world, nothing happens. How many other things may be distorted by these studies? Blood, birthdays… these are beliefs created by men who inferred them from the Bible. There is a great deal of arrogance involved.

One verse about the “faithful and discreet slave” is so thin that they treat it as a prophecy. The Governing Body holds enormous power based on a single isolated verse. If the foundation is rotten, nothing else matters. These are not mere mistakes.

Do your research.


r/exjw 2h ago

HELP Hey guys I really just need some friends no

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I’m overjoyed that I’m successfully fading from the religion. I’m moving across the country in 4-5 months. I’m gonna lose a lot of the friends I have. And I’m struggling to make new friends. If anyone here lives in GA, PA, or in OR, pls reach out to me! I am dying to have some quality time with real people 😂 but even if you’d like to be online friends pls dm me! I’m into music, tv, photography, hiking, traveling, story telling. Just hit me up and we’ll start some conversation!


r/exjw 14h ago

Academic Stauros - JW Greek Language Mythology

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Anyone can Google this.

It is a trick question, as the Greeks had no word for Crucifix: What is the Greek word for Crucifix.

Stauros is simply an ancient greek word that refers to any upright posted impalement - crucifix included.

We have secular sources of that time referring to a Crucifix. Tacticus and Josephus.

Every Roman legion had crucifixion teams, and had been doing that long before Jesus.

There is no evidence that Rome executed people differently in Judea (stake) than the rest of the Empire.

JWs have mistranslated this word, bucked history, and changed their bible from that mistranslation. It is a gross change of scripture.

Keep this Google exercise handy the next time a JW insists Jesus died on an upright stake.


r/exjw 10h ago

JW / Ex-JW Tales Fast Times at spanish speaking social gatherings

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I was born in. Elder’s kid. Grew up in the Spanish-speaking JW world here in the United States.
If you’ve only ever been around English congregations, you might not realize how different it can be. Culture, values, immigrant subculture it all shows up. The meetings and the Watchtower rules are the same on paper, but the social life is not. Some more strict than others .
Spanish gatherings in my region (at least every one I ever went to) were a whole different animal from the English ones. Loud music. Full DJ setups. Lights, lasers, fog machines. Secular Spanish music blasting. People actually dancing. It felt like a party that just happened to have a bunch of JWs at it.
But God forbid anyone celebrate a birthday, right? lol
For a stretch in our late teens / early 20s, my two best friends (also elders’ kids) and I were on the more rebellious side. We got the brilliant idea of popping Molly/MDMA double stacks before some of these gatherings. IYKYK.
Some of the best “parties” I’ve ever been to. (To be clear that was the MDMA talking, not the gatherings themselves)
I’m still surprised we never got caught for that specific thing. The double lives did eventually catch up to us though.
This is not an endorsement of drug use. I’m not proud of it. Looking back it’s moronic and stupid. Just putting it out there because that was the reality for a season.
Anybody else have wild stories from Spanish congregations, or from being an elder’s kid trying to live two lives?


r/exjw 7h ago

Ask ExJW How did some of you take the loss of community part of disfellowshipping/leaving?

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I am PIMO, and I recently attended a International Convention in my country, I barely listened to the talks, I had the most fun speaking to delegates and people from other congregations, its unCONDITIONAL love - that sense of community feels really good. Now, I have a good amount of friends outside jw land, but I felt bad for those that aren't as fortunate as me, those that didn't/don't have friends outside of JWs after they left, so I was just wondering how some of you guys dealth with that.


r/exjw 22h ago

Ask ExJW Help finding a Watchtower article that was fundamental in waking me up.

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A lot of my friends and acquaintances are well aware that I used to be an ex-Jehovah’s Witness, and one of the first questions i am asked by them is “What made you realize that you were in a cult?” And the answer to that question lies in a Watchtower article from around April 14th 2024 (could be one on a weekday meeting too, my mind constantly tries to forget the day because of the trauma associated with it) where a woman was being sexually assaulted/raped and in quotes, she said “if Jehovah allows it, I can endure it.” I remember seeing it and searching for it multiple times and in the past year, I couldn’t seem to find it. Now that I am more public about my discoveries and my disapproval of Watchtower’s theologies, I was hoping to find the article again but after 3 hours of searching, I haven’t found anything similar. Thank you in advance if you got this far and respond, I hope all of you enjoy your day or night !


r/exjw 6h ago

WT Can't Stop Me Watchtower is Still An NGO

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Watchtowers view point on NGOs 

“As in other countries the Catholic church in Vietnam has not confined her activities to religious matters but has been deeply involved in the country’s politics… 
was directly responsible for the first armed intervention by French colonialists in Vietnamese political affairs.” The Catholic politician Ngo Cong Duc”

https://wol.jw.borg/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101971615?q=Ngo&p=doc
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Watchtower is a NGO 
2018

“According to Watchtower International, a Jehovah’s Witnesses-affiliated nongovernmental organization (NGO),”
https://2021-2025.state.gov/reports/2018-report-on-international-religious-freedom/republic-of-korea/

2022 

“rejected a request by the Jehovah’s Witnesses NGO Watchtower Association for recognition as an official religion in the country.”

https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-report-on-international-religious-freedom/israel-west-bank-and-gaza


r/exjw 4h ago

Venting Special Convention Woes and Strife

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I have the unfortunate pleasure of watching my father work himself into the grave trying to keep up with everything. He is in charge of a couple different things for the upcoming international or special convention, I can't be bothered to remember what it's called. Every day it looks like he's been chewed up and spat out for someone else to kick into the ground. I'm trying my best to help with work, but we're already do worn down from our regular schedule that none of us can keep up.

On top of dealing with other issues in the hall, including members who have seen videos online and are doubting, I'm worried that this might be the thing that tips him over the edge and kills him. Legitimately kills him. I respect the man but he can't keep going like this. Still, there isn't anything I can do without getting yanked into the back room for a talk and public reproval at best (there's plenty of elders who want my dad off the body, and they'll do anything to make it happen).

Am I going to lose my dad over this? Are we going to be okay after the convention? I don't know. I don't know anymore. I've heard horror stories about this from other halls where the brother snaps, and I'm worried about it while trying to keep a level head and put up the facade for my family.

If anything happens to my dad, though, there isn't really too much holding me back from leaving. Shoot, I don't think I'll be able to attend without him anyways; everything is set up so I'm financially dependent on him, and if he kicks the bucket I'm out of or a job and home, and even a car. It'll be fine, I'll manage, but I'm worried about my mom and sister.

Oh well. Can't really do much right now. Guess we'll ride it out and see what happens.


r/exjw 11h ago

PIMO Life Slipped up and afraid to admit

15 Upvotes

So, I’ve been PIMO for around 2 weeks and I haven’t been to meeting in that time either. So, obviously once you uncover one thing you slowly become obsessed with more discoveries so I’ve been watching a lot of exJw creators on YouTube. I was watching a YouTube video and my mum (PIMI) was walking by and she was like “who’s that you’re watching” and I said “a former bethelite and elder” (shoutout brother JT and Lady Cee). Then she asked “is he an exJw?” and I didn’t have the guts to admit it, so I capped and just said I was trying to learn about Bethel life.

The only reason I’m stepping on eggshells is because I’ve been avoiding family worship and said it was boring, I also go clubbing which my mum knows and I’m not ashamed to tell her where I’m going, but that making her think that I’m slipping away from the organisation but I was going clubbing and going to meetings before. I don’t drink or smoke or even date, I strictly go clubbing for dancing and vibes. Now I’m afraid to explained my discoveries since I’ve already sort of been living a “double life”. I wish I could include my whole history but this is my story for now. Thanks for reading


r/exjw 17h ago

Meetup What helped you wake up in the Matrix?

20 Upvotes

Hi everyone, I've been POMO for 2 years. I am 45 years old. I've been divorced for two years. Before becoming POMO I resigned as an elderly person after 5 years of activity. I live in Italy. I started to see a lot of crooked things during my old age and my faith collapsed in this religion. After my resignation and subsequent divorce I also started to do research and I discovered further information that made me even further away. I am currently happily POMO. My brain is resting and my emotionality is recovering after a period of heavy stress caused by the removal from this religion and divorce. What are the things that made you move away from this religion the most?