r/fossdroid 1d ago

Other Google started implementing on androids

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u/Slow_Werewolf3021 1d ago

Be careful with this, because I reset it two days ago so I could install third-party apps, and the device never told me (I have a Pixel 7 Pro) that I needed to do so (I thought it was automatic), so now I have to go through the process of waiting 24 hours all over again

Google, don’t be evil...

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u/mister_nimbus 1d ago

They changed the "don't be evil" thing

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u/Slow_Werewolf3021 23h ago

I know, that’s why I put it there. I meant it ironically – sorry if it wasn’t clear

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u/toolsavvy 1d ago

24 whole hours?

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u/Slow_Werewolf3021 23h ago

Yes, I started the process two days ago and thought that, after waiting the mandatory 24 hours, it would either activate automatically or I’d receive a notification asking me to activate it. The thing is, neither of those things happened, and yesterday I had to start the 24-hour waiting period all over again

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u/mister_nimbus 19h ago

Is there something else you're supposed to do?

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u/Slow_Werewolf3021 19h ago

I'm still waiting

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u/mister_nimbus 19h ago

I guess it's time for a blood sacrifice. Or maybe a different operating system?

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u/Slow_Werewolf3021 1h ago

I managed to do it yesterday, and it turns out they give you 24 hours to accept it, but they never actually tell you when the window opens – you have to keep an eye on the clock to make sure 24 hours have passed, and only then do they let you activate it, accompanied by a couple of threatening messages along the lines of: “Do you know what you’re doing?! Are you sure?! Are you sure?!”

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u/neoneat 8h ago

WTF so they put you in loop hole 24 hours 4ever?

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u/TrainTransistor 4h ago

No.

You first to in and say you want it enabled. That takes 24h.

Then you have a window to accept it, or the timer will be reset.

As long as you check again after 24h and enable it, you can choose to never see it again.

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u/neoneat 2h ago

Well, not bad, still asss design though.

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u/TrainTransistor 2h ago

I'd say its good design, just not for those of us who actually want to 'sideload'.

Its meant to be a nuisance so those who isnt sure about what they're doing cant do it. And it for sure is.

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u/Slow_Werewolf3021 1h ago

That’s it, thanks

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u/kwijyb0 1d ago

Be careful with what? It doesn't go into effect until 30 Sept in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand. And sometime in 2027 globally. We've had plenty of notice. We’re rolling out the advanced flow for installing apps from unverified developers

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u/SinnaBuns666 1d ago

Be careful to know when to restart... Reading comprehension not common where you're from?

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u/kwijyb0 1d ago

It never said it we'd get a reminder however it did say "return here to check the time remaining" Edit: Either way, they gave us plenty of time to get it enabled.

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u/HeadlessHolofernes 1d ago

You can use your device as usual … — Google

No, I can't if I cannot install the apps I want. Duh!

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u/The_Meme_Lady_69 1d ago

God, I just want this shit to appear so I can allow unverified apps and move on. Genuinely an awful way considering the Playstore has far more junk. Can't wait to get myself a Motorola or Pixel to start using GrapheneOS.

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u/ColorfulPersimmon 1d ago

Buying Pixel because you don't like what Google is doing with Android is stupid. Vote with your wallet

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u/Suspicious-Cat-266 1d ago

Buy used.

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u/The_Meme_Lady_69 23h ago

Yeah. If I can't get my hands on a Motorola, I'll go for the secondhand pixel.

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u/Bl3rps 1d ago

And install GrapheneOs

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u/[deleted] 15h ago

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u/Affectionate-Boot-58 14h ago

Do not support motorla they spy on people here in the US with their survlaince cameras

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u/Astronomylover999999 18h ago

GrapheneOS is only currently available on Pixels. Motorola's phones resulting from their graphene partnership wont come out until 2027

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u/x-NoSuchAgency-x 15h ago

Right, which we're a few months away from 

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u/LogicalError_007 1d ago

The worst part about this could be, some bank apps and others prohibiting use of their apps because of this being turned on.

That could get ugly AF.

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u/TechTalkf 21h ago

I can definitely see this happening. Did they say whether turning this on will affect the Play Integrity rating?

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u/LogicalError_007 18h ago

It shouldn't affect Play Integrity and them doing so will again bring them in focus for their monopolistic practices.

They recently got out of it.

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u/Radagio 1d ago

I might have a hot take but this warning process for me isnt an issue its a another layer to stop the scamming business that pray on the older users.

My issue is forcing every dev to register and pay for your registration to install an app.

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u/TechnoByte_ 1d ago

Scamming mostly happens through fake websites, not .apks

Google is an advertising company, they added this to add a significant barrier to entry for installing patched/modded apps without ads

For the average person, it was: "wow, I can download this app and watch yt without ads!"

Now it will be: "I have to go through this whole process and wait 24 hours? too much effort, I'm good"

Path of least resistance always wins

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u/dotancohen 1d ago

And there's nothing wrong with that. If your "average person" is so indifferent that their ads aren't worth waiting 24 hours to install another app, then let them have their comfy ads. At least I don't need to suffer that - and I know that my elderly parents are far less likely to be scammed into installing some predatory app.

I write my own custom apps for myself and friends and coworkers. I run Debian Linux at home. In theory, I hate the idea of locking down Android. But in practice, I love it.

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u/SinnaBuns666 1d ago

The Play Store is the most dangerous place to get apps from, hands down; this isn't stopping scams.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/SinnaBuns666 20h ago

because there aren't scams on the rest of the internet. /s

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u/DDOSBreakfast 1d ago

I'd bet money that in a few years they remove the ability to install .apk files completely. They are setting the narrative that they are inherently dangerous.

iOS is already this way and MacOS is a major pain to run unsigned applications.

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u/Sanitizer2294 1d ago

It's always disguised as "for your safety".

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u/Ur1man5 18h ago

The solution:

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u/dungeoncrawler11 1d ago

I don't get it, will this affect Android 16 and below devices, or explicitly 17?

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u/S10MC2015 1d ago

Yes it will (affect versions below 17), this would come to your phone as part of Google mobile services.

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u/punkofthedeath 1d ago

Time to ditch banking apps and all apps that use Play Integrity & use custom ROM

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u/Affectionate-Boot-58 14h ago

And use banking apps on a secondary phone

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u/z-vap 23h ago

what if its on, then you turn it off (for whatever reason) then want to turn it on again? Does the 24 hr things kick in again?

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u/sniomii 13h ago

Why did you steal u/SnooRevelations3430 pictures without crediting him?
And before you defend yourself, he posted it in r/RedMagic and that’s where you stole it.

You’re no better than Google.

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u/SnooRevelations3430 13h ago

Yup that's my Redmagic Astra photo

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u/saifmahmud_ 1d ago

my phone is on Android 13 and it's not getting any updates. Will this restriction apply to me too?

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u/Consistent-Mess2643 1d ago

After android 10 ig everyone will be required

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u/TxJxCh 19h ago

this reminds me of MIUI for some reason

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u/Ezzaskywalker_11 18h ago

MIUI kinda does it per apps permission though, it's super damn annoying with the warning but atleast it's only 10 second and only applies once per apps, so you could just allow your file manager but not your browser and move on

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u/jr_mtz01 17h ago

Thanks for reminding me! I was one hour away from having to wait another 24 hrs.

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u/Affectionate-Boot-58 14h ago

Shizku+canta and you dont have to worry about it

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u/Sturdily5092 1d ago

We should use every easy we can to resist this change including logging complaints through their feedback system, getting politicians involved, switching to alternative OS' and dumpling Android if possible

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u/ArthurReming 21h ago

And that's why I kept my bootloader unlocked on my tab

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u/isekaimangalover 17h ago

Time to get on huawei's ecosystem

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u/Budget_Job958 17h ago

don't I have one it's not the best either

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u/isekaimangalover 17h ago

Harmony os is looking really good without any of this shit google is doing. And sure they might not have the best chips but still really good nonetheless

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u/Final_Economist_9218 1d ago

I'll switch to iOS. I've been using Android since Android 1. But if it's going to be like iOS, then there's no need.

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u/ixdxkx 1d ago

Believe me or not but iOS is still worse, even if Google finally implements this

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u/SinnaBuns666 1d ago

Have you used an iPhone? The *worst* OS, not even considering the restrictions.

Updates take hours, battery life is horrid, the UI wastes all the gains in performance that the At-home chip gives, any bug in the software can brick parts of your phone, no system-wide ad blockers (that you don't have to renew every once in a while), and good luck getting the thing fixed if you drop it, add on the lack of customization options, and no apps from anything other than what daddy Apple lets you.. I'm good.

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u/BH-Playz 1d ago

Gng iOS IS A PAIN IN THE ASS TO INSTALL CUSTOM APPS EVEN WORSE THAN THIS