More levels to acension, more events, more variety to it, more characters appearing, make more paths for the roguelike aspect of it to feel roguelikey. Like I've not played an acension in a long time, I've just done the skip ticket. Its feel mind numbingly boring to just click pots and events for yoloing pots.
Like manually doing ascensions feels like monotonous slop content. Which is really bad as its the only way to get better records and improve the power of teams.
She was hyped and then early pullers decided to say she’s not worth it despite being Normal Powered after the string of busted bullshit limiteds we had since launch, so nobody with poor currency management was inspired to open their wallets.
The rest of us just got her for free like we’ve done with every other banner. You don’t gotta pay for shit in this game, man, no wonder they have poor profits. We’ve only had what, three skins? Maybe only two and I’m being generous? So there isn’t even anything for people who want to throw money at the game.
the RNG on ascension really sht, i would say it's even worse than genshin artifact system. the disappointment you get when getting good melody and potential card until that one important particular potential card missing is immesurable. imo at least they should make the RNG not showing same card multiple times after redraw
The worst part of ascension is the save data is tied to the entire team, so if you get a new character to replace another one, you have to grind it all out over again. At least in CZN the save data is tied to each individual character.
There's a lot to like about the game but I'm close to dropping it. It's a roguelike where you hardly ever get to roguelike. I keep logging in for... what gameplay, exactly? The only thing in front of me is more grinding.
That's how I feel about ZZZ. I keep logging in and building characters for what? To play the same Shiyu, Deadly Assault and Hollow Zero over and over again?
In Stella, I do enjoy climbing higer ranks in the endgame mode though, and compared to ZZZ, I don't have to skip every other character banner.
Unless they do some big changes about gameplay, it will not change the revenue. But hey some people will cope with: people pay on Yostar platform so revenue down LOL.
Overall, the gameplay is not attractive enough to make people stay. The ascension/end game embbled stat are so horrible.
True, I’m 'playing' the game, but the gameplay is such wasted potential. The gear system is the worst dogshit I’ve experienced in a game in my life—no joke. I’m just staying for the story, which is somehow entertaining to me, and I kinda like the art of the game also.
Stella Sora will need a major push similar to Blue Archive's 2nd year anniversary. At this point, it's suffering from:
Being a fairly niche genre
Having that disorienting first impression, added with CCs piling on it
Progression, namely gearing, is painful
Balance in terms of elements is demoralizing for players who may like a specific character
The first point is self-explanatory, but not that bad as that also means SS can grab a niche of loyal fans. The 2nd is hard to recover from, but leads on to the fact that the devs need to make a hail Mary that focuses on solving most of the game's issues while establishing how its gacha works in practice.
As it stands, SS's gear system takes the painful aspects of NIKKE's and amplifies it by 2, as the pool is so diluted, yet it's also costly to farm reroll materials in a game that already demands a ton of basic materials to level up characters and even discs. This is even worse when certain characters (Firenze) rely on specific lines to be fully functional.
Balance is also problematic, as we have Light and Fire put out absolute warcrimes of characters like Summer Shia and Fuyuka, but then have Dark characters with one foot in the grave with how non-impactful their element reaction is ontop of being focused around minions, which do middling damage due to being unaffected by most buffs. Water isn't as bad as Dark, but you can definitely see the difference when you take out Fuyuka and explode any boss without much effort or concern for mechanics.
To iterate on how bad things are looking, Firenze was one of the more anticipated characters, but perhaps due to her being Umbra + general fatigue from the gear grind, she didn't really boost revenue much. At this point, the devs need to go all in a single patch that includes:
Balance changes to struggling characters and elements
Softening the frustration of the gear and resource farm/grind
Release maid and bunny skins. No, seriously.
Include a major summoning campaign that features enticing rewards for new, returning, and veteran players
To the above point, market and feature a character that would most likely attract players. Ironically, this may be a character named 'Firefly'
This is taxing on physical and human resources, but necessary to avoid stagnation and an irreversible decline.
The game is good, but they fumbled the release. And they are losing the few players that gave the game a chance despite everything, like me, because, let's be honest, the game is just boring. Being a 'side game' is not a reason to be boring. The game has glaring issues too, like the 'Emblem' system, a RNG fest that nobody likes, and the 'Ascension' mode is just... unbearably boring too. It's not even a true rogue-like mode. It's always the same. They make the same minigames for every event too. Couple all of that with Firenze, one of the most hyped up characters, finally releasing and being SO MID... And the last Finale Echoing being HEAVILY shilled for Fuyuka, screwing every player that didn't have her... At this point, even if they promised to work on these issues, I think the game can't be saved. It's a shame, because the game has potential, the story is good, the characters are pretty nice and charming, but it is what it is.
I don't think that's the case. People here seem to have completely missed that Stella Sora launched with Yostar's own top up site that has a small (5%) discount on all purchases, so that's most likely where players are doing their spending. That revenue won't show up on these charts.
If I had to guess, I'd prob put Stella Sora at least around the $4m mark.
I hope so. I always use Google Play myself because I'm in a position to get cards often, so I never personally consider how many people are using non-mobile stores.
They need to give roadmap and more skins. They have like gacha for discs but no one almost is pulling that since free ones is enough. It's been a month since their dev letter and still nothing has been happening aside from repetitive contents.
There not much content in it, and it still easy to clear. The new char Firenze can't carry revenue because her kit underwhelming compare previous char because rely to minion which there no support char for it.
Yep the Korean forums were buzzing about how terrible Firenze kit was, how having 5* Firenze doesn't actually go nuts with damage like the other limited characters in boss blitz, how minion build feels legit terrible to play.
There really isn't a whole lot to do in End Game. Events are mostly the same type of events we have had before. Also, the banner character that uses summons is kind of weak.
Man I'd really hate to see Stella Sora EOS, for all its initial problems the story and characters are a blast, to me it's on par with Genshin in how well the characters are fleshed out over time (and not forgotten after their banner ends like some others ahem ahem)
I don't think they can do anything at this point, those who left will never return and those who still stick around didn't have reason to spend money because the game is too easy and don't have PVP.
The game probably won't survive to see their first anniversary.
IIRC, the sales have been cut in half for 3 months straight. It's still manageable for now but the situation definitely will get worse if Yostar don't take any action. I kind of like the game and would hate to see it go EOS.
It will not reach EOS by any means, the production of Stella Sora is quite cheap compared to other games, even more than Azur Lane where Manjuu/Yostar spend a lot on ads and marketing IRL
Its not cheap. What gacha game has as much effort but into emotes, songs, character outfit changes in story, multiple different tiny img changes for characters.
People don’t care about devs putting effort on their games to start spending, it’s just that there’s no incentive to pull/spend in Stella Sora when all endgames and events are exactly the same, easy and genuine fell like a chore, even weekly materiales are a chore to farm
One problem with this tracking data is it may be missing sales on Yostar's own store; the store is cheaper than in-game by 5%, seriously incentivizing people to shop there rather than in-game.
This is what you get for ignoring people(2x pull cost, poor income, wallpaper skins, hacker infested rankings) and making unnecessary complex gacha system(it should have been guaranteed banner unit pity at 80).
It's not as bad as it seemed when you decide to stick with it, especially as side gacha. But damage was done and you don't get a 2nd chance in such saturated market.
Freebies - this always works. Also rework banners as mentioned. And pray people will just stick for CGDCT like in BA.
Yeah it's not looking good for Stella Sora even if we take other things into consideration. They aren't pandering to the people who come from BA to play Stella Sora so far, they arent doing QoLs for their content. So far its just rerun events mainly, I'm not sure if Yostar is even known for doing collabs that often otherwise I'd be hopeful for that
There isn't a rerun story event, they added a arknights tower defense game mode event around fuyuka's release and brought it back with new trekkers added to it this time around. They brough back a dump event where we get rid of Records for gems. Like there is no actual event that has a story rerunning this guy is blowing air out of his butthole.
I tried it and Trickcal when they launched, night and day difference in how it felt like Stella Sora didn't respect my time. I dropped the game after one day and never looked back, meanwhile I'm playing Trickcal daily.
The game isn't entertaining, the roguelike elements just don't click with the gacha system, and it felt like a slog to do anything.
I think a live service Hades like game can absolutely work, it just needs to focus more on the gameplay and not have such rancid rng.
No, the problem is the game is too easy so there is no reason to spend any money at all, even F2P can get full rewards from leaderboard very easily and the game don't have PVP either.
It's the exact opposite though? I have every single limited char minus Shia and am guaranteed the next one in 30 pulls...I am fully f2p...oh and I have Fuyuka's disc too
There was some math guide with what your odds of having all characters so far are and I think it was something like 40%?
I only played until Fuyuka before deciding it wasn’t for me, but I did end up with getting all 3 limiteds that came out at the time, plus three dupes on top of that. So it’s quite believable that 40% of day one players could just have every limited.
i think the problem rn is that people are expecting more pulls despite the game being extremely f2p friendly once you realise how high 2% is(i am a d1 player and have some standard 5* maxxed and every limited ,some with dupes as well and i'm a f2p...)why would i need to spend if i can already get everything
Game's just too generous. For me, who has all the limited characters except Nazuka, makes the game easy, so I don't really consider spending anything. I hope they can cook something up. I love this game because I love roguelike games.
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u/WolfOphi FGO | BA | AL | AK | HBR | SB Feb 01 '26
Damn Stella Sora last, behind Mahjong Soul.
Despite being a 100% Yostar gacha, it didn't manage to beat the other Yostar gachas where they are just the publisher.
I wonder what Yostar can do to revitalize SS.