r/gachagaming Jun 28 '26

General Extreme Chinese players send cow dung, funeral chrysanthemums, curse banners, and ritual items to Papergames/Infold office as Love and Deepspace controversy escalates. LADS Chinese social media accounts have reportedly lost around 1 million followers

Love and Deepspace has been facing one of its biggest controversies after the official reveal of its sixth male love interst, Ao Yin/Valko. Since the teaser was released, the game's official Chinese social media accounts have reportedly lost around 1 million followers across platforms.

The controversy has also drawn attention from Beijing Daily, which published a commentary arguing that the backlash reflects a growing crisis of trust between Papergames and its core player base.

The backlash has also spread offline.

As part of Ao Yin's promotional campaign, Papergames installed a giant Valko wolf-print display and a large themed balloon outside its office.

According to reports circulating on Chinese social media, some extreme players placed cow dung inside the company's delivery lockers, with visitors claiming they could smell the odor.

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Others left white and yellow chrysanthemums, curse banners, glutinous rice, and pomelo leaves around the promotional display outside the building. Some visitors also posed outside the office while making middle-finger gestures for photos.

In modern Chinese culture, white and yellow chrysanthemums are closely associated with funerals, mourning, and paying respects to the deceased. Sending these flowers to a person or company can be interpreted as wishing death upon the recipient.

Meanwhile, glutinous rice and pomelo leaves are traditional folk items used in spiritual cleansing rituals to ward off evil spirits. Some protesters used them sarcastically to suggest that Papergames had been "possessed" after introducing the new character and need to ward off this new evil spirit.

One protester also reportedly delivered a banner reading "The new male lead is a wild boar" to the company's office and later claimed that Papergames threatened to call the police. Online, some players also joked about destroying the giant Valko balloon, although there is no evidence that anyone actually attempted to do so (now).

Following the protests, Papergames reportedly increased security around its headquarters. While visitors were previously allowed to enter the building to take photos, recent reports claim that public access has become more restricted, particularly to prevent provocative photos or obscene gestures inside the office.

According to the article by Beijing Daily, the issue goes far beyond Ao Yin's appearance. While some players criticized his more Westernized character design, the main source of frustration is that many longtime players feel the existing five love interests have been neglected. Main storylines of a love interest have reportedly gone over 500 days without updates. Many fans believe the company's resources have been redirected toward introducing a new character instead of continuing content for the existing cast.

Beijing Daily noted that Papergames' global expansion strategy is commercially understandable—Love and Deepspace has seen strong overseas revenue growth—but argued that otome games rely on a "trust economy." Players invest not only money, but also years of emotional attachment. When that trust is damaged, commercial success alone cannot easily repair it. According to the editorial, Ao Yin became the catalyst for frustrations that had been building for years rather than the sole cause of the controversy.

Papergames issues a midnight apology

At around 12:00-1:00 a.m. (China time) on June 27-28, Papergames released an official statement responding to the backlash.

The company stated that:

  • Ao Yin (Valko) will remain the sixth male lead.
  • The main story updates for Caleb and Sylus are currently in development.
  • All players will receive compensation consisting of 10 Limited Wish Tickets and 10 Standard Wish Tickets (20 pulls total).

However, Beijing Daily published a second commentary shortly afterward titled "Six Questions for Love and Deep Space."

The article argued that the statement failed to answer several key concerns, including:

  • Where was the apology?
  • Why did the company only respond after millions of comments and tens of thousands of complaints?
  • Was the 20-pull compensation a genuine apology or simply an attempt to reduce player loss?
  • How will Papergames fulfill its promise not to neglect existing characters?
  • Has the company truly changed its attitude, or is it merely responding to public pressure?

The editorial concluded that the controversy is no longer just about Ao Yin, but about whether paying players can still trust that their time, money, and emotional investment will be respected, but about whether paying players can still trust that their time, money, and emotional investment will be respected.

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Ao Yin is scheduled to officially release on July 9, and his performance may determine whether this controversy has a lasting impact. However, many observers believe the situation has already become about more than a single character—it reflects years of accumulated frustration over story updates, resource allocation, and communication between Papergames and its longtime player base.

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u/super-venon GFL2 Exilium- Certified Sleepo Beepo fan Jun 28 '26

Hey but this sub told me LADS players are good normal and decent people

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u/Nethers7orm GI PtN WuWa Jun 28 '26

Tbf not like you can see much CN players here

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u/Luvsique Jun 28 '26

There’s still a lot of drama in the en/global community though(almost all of it being infighting of course).

It’s gotten so bad that other people from the same community (otome including the gacha otomes) don’t like them (even other lads players don’t like them and players from it’s sister game don’t like them).

This some of what I’ve seen

Solo main vs solo main
Solo main vs harem main (play with all LIs)
Re-heated nachos
Caleb en loc vs original
Caleb sister line / anniversary event
Lads players wanting Caleb removed
Anything related to Caleb
Lads players wanting to censor the game
Sylus kitty card
Lads fanartists getting reported for drawing Valko (including this because the artists getting attacked weren’t CN)
BL

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u/ANN0Y1NG1 Jun 28 '26

Caleb sister line

Oh yeah I remember that showing up in my twitter algo quite a while ago, I was kinda surprised by how would it be controversial, but that's probably because it's not uncommon here in Asia to call your loved ones sister/brother or equivalent terms.

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u/Luvsique Jun 28 '26

It was more like the character was supposed to be the big brother character but without outright saying it (at least in the Eng loc).

I don’t exactly remember but I think players were a bit uncomfortable with the idea of Caleb being added as a LI because even without the brother/sister lines they saw him as the brother character.

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u/WuWaCHAD Jun 28 '26

Guess the top game of a given parasocial type is bound to have a lot of issues, ala Snowbreak.

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u/Luvsique Jun 28 '26

It’s sad because both are decent games they just have terrible communities.

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u/LuneYao Jun 28 '26

EN are just as bad

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u/MODERNHoolaHoop Jun 28 '26

I don't know who said that but they were lying. LADS community is just like any other. They can't even be nice to each other, constant infighting on most random and non-offensive things ever is the norm and it's not pretty.

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u/nyeongcat Fate/Grand Order Jun 28 '26

I think most of the more "normal" ones stay outside the Discord and subreddit

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u/Darknight3909 Jun 28 '26

the only time i seen people defending LADS on this sub was by pointing out that SnowBreak died due to itself instead of LADS. outside that case i mostly see the sub talking about the craziness from that fanbase.

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u/Maokoba Jun 28 '26

Why hate on other games when you can hate on your own games? -literally lads fandom

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u/SleepingDragonZ Jun 28 '26

They're just a bunch of hypocrites.

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u/AntonioS3 Genshin Impact, Pokemon Masters EX Jun 28 '26

Unfortunately the craziness seem deserved, the way the CN fanbase conduct themselves is rather creepy in a dangerous manner due to high level of parasocialism here.

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u/Brightness_Jasnah Caution: Bad Opinions Jun 28 '26

Gacha gamers are never either of those, you should have known

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u/Beneficial_Tap_915 Jun 28 '26

You should see queensofgacha subreddit, pretty much sums up the tamest state of LADS fanbase.

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u/CulturalGolf1135 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

How obsessed are you guys with the queens sub to be slandering it with misinformation constantly like this 😭

like they literally never done anything like this and they hate the Lads fanbase too, especially since Lads fans are known as extremely homophobic.

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u/Beneficial_Tap_915 Jun 29 '26

You should see how QoG talks about other gachas that aren't either HSR, Genshin, LADS, HBR and other gachas. The amount of stroke I had on the misinformation and passive aggression about gachas they don't like is unmatched compared to this subreddit lol, which tells you enough.

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u/HiroHayami 10 years into the shithole Jun 30 '26

>LADS Fanbase

>QoG

??????

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u/Falsus Granblue Fantasy Jun 29 '26

LADS is the same kind of toxic, homophobic cesspit that Snowbreak was, just with women instead of men.

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u/HiroHayami 10 years into the shithole Jun 28 '26

No one says that. If anything, other husbando players dislike them

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u/LunaProc Jun 28 '26

I think most popular gachas just are like that. 

They are split into “normal fans” and “batshit crazy CN/Kor fans”

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u/Competitive-Word3772 Jun 28 '26

As normal as the snowbreak lads

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u/Jumugen Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

Both losers but weirdly enough one group is getting made fun of while the other is encouraged - which is weird because nearly noone in the west plays LaDS.

Why are we supporting some weirdos in china?

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u/Lumpy_Description224 Jun 28 '26

If this was a waifu game the --cel word be in every other comment.

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u/Jumugen Jun 28 '26

All those hand gestures threads summoning 200 redditors to be racist towards korean without understanding the culture behind it is crazy to see

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u/slash197 Jun 29 '26

What's the culture behind being so insecure in your penis size that you interpret every vague pinch gesture as an insult to your penis size?

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u/Jumugen Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

Thats what I mean - Megalia is a Extremist Group that kills their children if its male.

You guys see the superficial hand gesture that they use as their symbol and nothing else. Its like saying people get mad about a tilted manji symbol. "What are you so insecure about Temples??" - Are we for Real?

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u/slash197 Jun 29 '26

That extremist group does not excuse every misogynistic thing that Korean men do, sorry.

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u/Jumugen Jun 29 '26

Normal people, both men and women, dont want the symbol of a extremist group in their media

BUT SOME KOREAN MEN ARE BAD???

We serious? You don't see anything wrong with that logic? I am not defending bad people either but faulting an entire group for it and willingly being on the site of an extremist group is going a bit too far for me.

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u/slash197 Jun 29 '26

Why do Korean men think a finger pinch is a symbol purely of this group? It's not like the motion of the Nazi salute (as an example of a motion that actually is a symbol of an extremist hate group), which is pretty much only done by Nazis. This motion existed long before this extremist group, all across human civilization and Korea itself, and will exist long after this group ceases to exist.

This is like when people started stupidly complaining about people doing the OK hand symbol because it was "a white supremacist symbol". It's two fingers being vaguely close together, which sets off so much whining.

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u/tabbycatcarnival Jul 01 '26

Dude what's wrong with you. Nothing women could ever do is comparable to what men have done throughout all of history.

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u/Jumugen Jul 01 '26

I literally told the guy in 3 comments this isnt a men vs women thing

What are you even on about? This is a terrorist group which people on reddit happily side with because they only have superficial information about it.

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u/Bad_Doto_Playa Jun 28 '26

There is truth to do this, I haven't seen the players be insulted yet (as far as I've scrolled so far) while that is usually the top comment for other games when something like this happens. Most I've seen is "crazy".

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u/Vahgeo Jun 28 '26

Husbando wanters are wonderful effect

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u/tabbycatcarnival Jul 01 '26

Sorry they're not the ones threatening rape or shooting up schools

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u/CulturalGolf1135 Jun 29 '26

That simply because it's more common for male fandom, lads is like the first to get this extreme for the women.

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u/Rezials Nikke Jun 29 '26

Because the player base isn't straight men. There, I said the quiet part.

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u/tabbycatcarnival Jul 01 '26

Men are not oppressed

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u/Rezials Nikke Jul 02 '26

We aren't oppressed, we're normal. Everyone can criticize or make fun of us. Everyone else are protected classes where the norm is to coddle them and don't be mean to them.

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u/slash197 Jun 29 '26

Who is being supported?

LADS gets dumb drama: It gets called out.

Snowbreak gets dumb drama: It gets called out.

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u/Sher101 Jun 28 '26

nearly noone in the west plays LaDS

???

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u/Jumugen Jun 28 '26

You heard me, the game doesnt even make top 1000 here - hell even some popular gacha games arent as big as people think

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u/fried-chikin Jun 29 '26

nah they are toxic as heck. even the non cn players

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u/Chill-gal1215 Jun 28 '26

Thats becuz CN players aren't here. LADS plsyers here are actually normal

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u/YuminaNirvalen Phrolova x FRover Jun 28 '26

Mostly only CN players play LaDs, globally it's far from popular. Hence, you don't really see much about it.