r/gachagaming • u/Wishful_gaming • 8d ago
General Genshin Impact, Arknights Endfield, Zenless Zone Zero, and Silver Palace ( Gamescom Nominees Best Mobile Game)
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u/DanteVermillyon 8d ago
That doesn't make sense, is not playable yet, what are they rewarding? A promise?
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u/DanteVermillyon 8d ago
People really didn't learn shit about how easy it is for someone to just make a CGI video that looks good and make it pass as gameplay? This is the most flawed system for an award I have seen wtf
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u/higorga09 7d ago
The day before
Also everyone on this sub creaming their pants over Ananta before we saw a single second of gameplay
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u/KMinato00 8d ago
This is the stupidest shit I've read. The idea of video game award show is already bad, but judging the game from a video instead of actually playing them is a billion times worse. Did they already forgot how massive the discrepancy between Cyberpunk 2077 early trailers and the actual release?
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u/JerichoDeath GFL2 8d ago
It's a good game, pinky swear
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u/Particular_Web3215 Jenshin | Currency Wars | limbus 7d ago
with ananta in the event too, there's so many "trust the potential" unreleased games lmao.
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u/naoki7794 7d ago
It's playable at the booths. So this is the [Best game you can play at Gamescom's booth this year] list. I have experience with ZZZ demo before and I don't think they will change it, but I wonder if they will bring a new demo for Genshin this year, with Snezhnaya and the new shooting gamemode.
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u/Ok-Diamond-7121 7d ago
At the very least I do note most of the ones who got nominated have playable betas. I also do note that gacha games weren't the only ones pulling this stunt (Highguard IIRC), and that the awards did actually move to prevent gacha titles from participating because otherwise they'll dominate all the time. :X
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u/Mortgage-Present This is a cry for help 8d ago
I still think that slot should be given to another game but oh well
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u/Single-Builder-632 8d ago
sooo why not ananta?
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u/neraida0 8d ago
who knows - either they simply did not enter (they actually need to pay money) ... or might be that the requirements being asked is not met (they need to submit a detailed gameplay footage). If what we see during the livestream is nothing but another 2-minute trailer and there's no booth for people to play it then that's basically it (they don't have gameplay to show)
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u/Single-Builder-632 8d ago
i think there is a new gameplay test. and they are at gamescon. guess they didn't pay upfront for the award.
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u/StrawberryFar5675 7d ago
Nah, I think Ananta is still far away from release. WWM is there, they are both Netease games. Netease thinks it's a waste of money when it's far from release. While Silver Palace just ended their 2nd CBT and they are near to be release.
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u/Historical_Yak2148 8d ago
SP looks so blatanly forced tbh
It makes the award looks like a joke, how the hell can you evaluate a game that hasnt even come out yet???
Set that aside id say wwm has the best chance to win this, it won a lot in TapTap award last year in mainland China.
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u/a4840639 8d ago
In fact, the awards in these kind of conventions almost always go to unreleased games. It is the other games being the exceptions, somewhat understandable due to the nature of being a long term service like games
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u/Xerxes457 8d ago
Tides of Annihilation is also nominated for stuff and its not out yet. Whatever gameplay was submitted was what got them nominated.
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u/__breadstick__ Genshin / ZZZ / NTE / UMA / BleachSR / Nikke 8d ago
They probably ran out of ongoing participating mobile games and picked the closest thing to fill the space
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u/iClone101 Genshin Impact 8d ago
They definitely could've stuffed HSR in there but probably didn't want a Hoyo hat trick in their nominations
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u/NoNefariousness2144 Miyabi is cool 8d ago edited 7d ago
Also even most loyal HSR fans admit they have been phoning it in for well over a a year now.
The lack of events is just embarrassing (especially with most events being auto gameplay that is less than 2 hours to complete).
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u/__breadstick__ Genshin / ZZZ / NTE / UMA / BleachSR / Nikke 8d ago
Yeah that's a fair point too.
Though to be honest, I do kinda feel like HSR hasn't been as strong this year compared to the others. Granted, much of that is not its fault at all
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u/ClothesOk2310 8d ago
You need to submit gameplay footage to be nominated, and hsr isn't the most famous for gameplay
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u/Sad-Imagination-4234 7d ago
Ah yes, Silver Palace my favorite gacha game of which I have 0 hours 0 min and 0 sec of playtime.
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u/dota_3 RPGX 8d ago
It took silver palace in here for this sub to realise gamescom nominee is paid entry.
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u/Existing-Extreme9240 8d ago
Lol check the thread from last for Gamescom BEST Mobile Game nominees and people are saying the same thing to Endfield.
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u/bluedragjet 8d ago
I noticed that a certain Mihoyo game is missing
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u/A-Chicken 7d ago
Given what happened to the Japan region I kind of expected this.
The powercreep argument is overrated considering ZZZ is also quite guilty of it. A lot of the flak it's receiving is agenda based too. Eh, it already got there and was in ZZZ's place previously, so nevermind.
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u/YokuzaWay 7d ago edited 7d ago
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u/A-Chicken 6d ago
Reasonable, but only if people still continue to use said best 1.0 support in the game. (Spoiler: not exactly, contrast Bennett from Genshin, she got outmoded the moment Rupture hit.)
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u/Megor933 8d ago
Love ZZZ, but the game is infinitely better on console and PC. Gotta give it to good ol Genshin in the mobile department.
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u/Ha-kyaa Racing Master (reply Ha-kyaa sucks for free sauce) 8d ago
wait, why is Silver Palace here
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u/Existing-Extreme9240 8d ago
Because it's playable in the convention. Just like how Endfield was also nominated last year
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u/BLACC_GYE ZZZ 8d ago
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u/KMinato00 8d ago
I haven't played it since early 2.x, is it really that bad or is it something else?
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u/BLACC_GYE ZZZ 8d ago
It’s just the optimization that isn’t the best. Even PC players, with the introduction of Roscaelifer and DX12, are having performance issues.
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u/Ok_Dawg_2759 8d ago
Yeah, if they fix that I'd say they belong up there. Cause ZZZ has been on the up and up.
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u/EEE3EEElol i dont have a gambling addiction i swear (HSR,HI3,PGR,BA,LC) 7d ago
The optimisation got hit with some dev anti-magic
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u/iwantdatpuss 7d ago
Mobile play has been rough for season 3. Especially the recent weekly addition called Operation bagel which is can really make the game chug for mobile.
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u/GameWoods 8d ago
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u/DissociationSenpai 7d ago
I love HSR but the game is toxic as hell. The powercreep and the fact with every update you need to build a new team because old characters become almost useless. And not only that but new content requieres specific mechanics from characters in the current banner and old character with that mechanic are too outdated to work.
You need to pull 4 characters for a team and their respective light cones because signature LC are significantly better than any option.
I think HSR is in my top 5 for predatory gachas
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u/camiteran 7d ago
Yeah HSR used to be my favorite gacha and I was a whale but I usually like spending in games because I like the characters, not because I feel forced to get the extra copies and the LC and the premium teammates etc... was baited a few times and decided no more, the game keeps getting more and more predatory.
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u/Rare_Marionberry782 7d ago
Same, 4.x has been getting dryer since… already cut spending on it. Dont know why not even excited for the “summer skins” tmr.
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u/Chemical_Rent6824 HSR | OG Arknights 7d ago
I still play HSR and the balance in that game is the most dogshit thing I've ever experienced. You can get the character, their weapons and their teammates and there's a 50/50 chance they'll be worthless in less than a year. That's what happened to my Herta and Aglaea, the two dps characters I invested in during 3.x
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u/DissociationSenpai 7d ago
HSR has such good characters but they become useless so fast ToT. In Arknights there is a noticeable powercreep but you can still use any old operator you like to use in new content and is not like you need to build an entire team to keep up. In HSR in other hard... powercreep is too fast it feels asphyxiating.
Still I play HSR but I totally ignore some content like Arbitration or The hardest floors of the MOC, PF and AS. It's so stressful seeing my heavily invested teams being absolute dogshit on those modes
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u/No-Car-4307 7d ago
i stopped playing the moment i got a full auto build for both teams and i was basically playing an idle game.
and the story went to the drain due to japan drama reworking planacardia
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u/Quomise 7d ago
every update you need to build a new team because old characters become almost useless
Not every patch, more like every 3 patches. Or you pull E2S1.
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u/Glazura 8d ago
Not like HSR would even deserve the spot with bare-minimum updates, atrocious powercreep and brain-numbing gameplay. It's not a game anymore, it's visual novel that updates once every 6 weeks. I pray they put The Herta in their next game so I can E6 her again and hopefully this time she wont become obsolete half a year later.
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u/TrashySheep 8d ago
Pretty sure it's between Genshin, Endfield and WWM.
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u/Existing-Extreme9240 8d ago
Well LADS won last year while Genshin was nominated so who knows how and who people voted
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u/YannFrost 8d ago
Silver Palace don't count as it hasn't came out. I haven't really heard anything much of Where Winds Meet. Zenless has a great 3.X, but did suffer in poor plot in 2.X
So for me it is either Endfield or Genshin. I say it is Genshin. Endfield is niche enough that not many play it. And Genshin's Nod Krai season was really good.
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u/ggunslinger 8d ago
I haven't really heard anything much of Where Winds Meet
A decent wuxia game. Gameplay similar to all the other 3d gacha games in terms of open world exploration, mini-games and storytelling but you have 1 customizable MC and combat tries to mimic Sekiro - heavily parry-based. You have several weapon sets and mystic skills that you can equip similar to Wolf's prosthetics. There's a cosmetic gacha and an MTX shop with additional costumes, plenty of cheap ones. I will go into detail on the game's issues, but personally I prefer this game over stuff like WuWa because parry-based combat is much more engaging to me while boss fights tend to be fun or challenging. I hate the VFX vomit or cutscene-like gameplay that a lot of gacha games end up with, but no such issue with this combat.
A lot of social systems and an actual multiplayer - group fights similar to FFXIV's trials (5 and 10man), PvP and GvG. Plenty of other activities that work in multiplayer too, most of the open world exploration, events, additional social systems like marriage, all that kind of jazz.
As for faults, there are some huge glaring issues. Translation is horrible and it will have you scatching your head plenty of times, even when trying to figure out what buff supports which weapon skill and such. I joke often that it was translated by Grok with little to no supervision. Game's engine can sometimes look like it's fueled by developers' dreams and hopes to keep it all together and there are occasional visual hiccups like disappearing buildings or LOD issues. It may run like shit on console. UI and UX are absolutely terrible and learning to navigate them is a skill on its own. Doesn't help that game doesn't teach you all that well how to upgrade your stuff while leveling.
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u/Ok_Dawg_2759 8d ago
While a defender of S2, I'll agree that S2 suffered in places via mostly the MQs.
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u/CHILLED_0 7d ago
I don't think YSG is a bad character but her story in 2.5 was terribly executed.
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u/Pitiful-Assignment-8 8d ago
ZZZ has seen steady growth starting from 2.7, so here you do not even need to take 3.x and beyond - just the last two episodes of season 2.
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u/Eroica_Pavane 7d ago
That's far from a universal opinion though. I've seen a lot of friend lose interest in 2.6-3.0 and is just getting back into it now.
WWM would also honestly be very deserving of winning in terms of quality but doesn't have the popularity compared to the gacha games.
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u/Xerxes457 8d ago
To be fair, Silver Palace is being nominated based on the gameplay that was submitted to the jury since its at the event.
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u/Existing-Extreme9240 8d ago
Endfield was also nominated last year. This is about in the convention
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u/iClone101 Genshin Impact 8d ago
All of these are decent nominees except for Silver Palace. They really couldn't have found a fifth mobile game that's actually a playable product?
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u/Ravonaa Wuthering Waves, Zenless Zone Zero 8d ago
I saw the tweet from Gachasmack, and while it does make sense that SP is there because it's presenting itself, I still find it kinda phony.
There's really very little feedback on this game, the devs can very easily showcase a trailer that sells more than it promises. Not saying SP is a bad game, but in general things like these are just not very honest to me.
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u/karillith 7d ago
Those awards are never honest anyway. Even TGA is a clown circus everyone feels forced to participate in due to how much money and attention it can garner but one shouldn't take the results as sacred gaming texts.
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u/naoki7794 7d ago
LOL, the people that are mad at this list are so funny. It's the list of best Mobile games that are presented at this year's Gamescom's avenue, so it make perfect sense silver palace is on there. This happened last year too and some people are still surprised.
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u/Economy-Meat-9506 8d ago
Why is Silver Palace there lol, why not HSR. This is an easy win for Genshin though.
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u/Existing-Extreme9240 8d ago
Endfield was also nominated last year. Also Genshin was nominated last year but LADS won.
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u/Particular_Web3215 Jenshin | Currency Wars | limbus 7d ago
since this is nominated by the game companies attending, seems like hoyo wanted to promote ZZZ 3.0 and Snez instead
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u/Fillydefilly 7d ago
If you look at last year tho... yeah HSR shouldn't be there even instead of Silver Palace.
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u/Oceanshan 7d ago
I don't know, aside from SP which is not released yet I've played all these games, and personally, my opinion would be: Genshin 6 and 7 patch is very strong but the game already get its award, so i don't know if it gonna get again. ZZZ is good but the 2.x kinda bad, though the later 2.x and 3.x is better, the game also haven't got an award yet so it can be a contender. En field, i don't think i would choose it, from game play to story, it kinda lost its soul from original Arknight.
The one i would choose is WWM. The game is very good with story, lore and even gameplay. The only thing i would criticize is that after clearing the PVE contents( which is very good if you like wuxia), the game would eventually become heavy pvp focused. So you either clear all contents as veterans and login every once in a while when new content hit or becomes a sweaty pvp player ( which, ironically, just as similar as these gacha games)
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u/UncouthfulSlime7 7d ago
In reality PvP has always been more reliable to sustain the playerbase compared to any PvE endgame, even raids. At least it's not like PvP is mandatory in any way, you can completely ignore it and just have fun with the world casually like I do.
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u/Oceanshan 7d ago
Yeah, that's why i lay it out. But once you try PVP it's addicting, trying to climb rank after season reset
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u/throwaway-4865- 7d ago
Until it becomes P2W and 99% of gacha PvP is P2W.
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u/Oceanshan 7d ago
The game power building is 100% grind though, only gacha is cosmetic
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u/Infinityscope 8d ago
But you can't even play Silver Palace unless you were selected for the closed beta tests. I don't know why it's there.
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u/Existing-Extreme9240 8d ago
Endfield was also nominated last year. Its which games are playable at gamescom
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u/Gold_Television_3543 8d ago
Silver Palace!? Correct if I’m wrong but that game hadn’t even released yet, no? And looking at it’s graphic, I don’t think it will perform that well on mobile, unless the devs can pull some tricks up their sleeve.
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u/tagle420 8d ago
How's WWM these days? Being a non character gacha game, does it have bigger player base comparing to others?
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u/masternieva666 6d ago
no its lower player base but the game is bigger with new regions to explore and more good boss.
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u/ProfessionalTop346 8d ago
Silver palace being nominated tells everything of how rigged the event is
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u/Tasty-Pilot-1220 7d ago
Yeah, no. Silver palace doesn't deserve sh/t here.
1) We have no confirmation of how it will work on the average mobile device, which varies from region to region.
2) ts isn't even releases yet. This simply means that no true player could've nominated it. The mobile gaming community, therefore played no role here. It was def paid.
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u/Glittering-Couple130 8d ago
I’m sorry it’s objectively Genshin
I know some of yall hate genshin for not having a few QoL
But Nodkrai story in my opinion is better than some 70$ AAA game stories I have experienced and the moon map in the last patch just tops it all
Sorry if I offended anyone by simply saying this lol
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u/Glittering-Couple130 8d ago
I also don’t care who wins
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u/Original-Shallot5842 8d ago
You offended the usual suspects in here who probably played Genshin last time in Inazuma.
But if you played Nod Krai + Snez that just dropped, the rest on this list dont even come close.
And im a zzz enjoyer aswell.
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u/Glittering-Couple130 7d ago
I also have a ZZZ friend who played through Nodkrai and said it’s nothing close to what ZZZ 2.X got going
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u/FairlySadPanda 7d ago
All I know is that I am hyped for the HG booth. I am buying so much Endfield merch.
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u/Astra_ant11 7d ago edited 7d ago
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u/IMakeBoomYes Traveler/Master/Endmin 7d ago edited 7d ago
Nod-Krai also ended on some very high notes. The Frost Moon map was EPIC, and the way they handled the new Elemental Reactions by turning them into buffs for older, underappreciated characters was another big plus.
Whether it gets this award or not, I've already experienced a lotta Ws as a Genshin player so I can't complain.
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u/luffy_mib 7d ago
All 5 are free live service games made by China. It tells you all you need to know on CN games domination.
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u/Kitchen-Resource-676 8d ago
Did I miss something and Silver Palace already released?
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u/Xerxes457 8d ago
You didn’t miss anything. The nominees are for games that are present at Gamescom. So people will probably be able to play it there.
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u/bowserboy129 8d ago
Silver Palace ain't even out yet are you fucking kidding me. Also can we stop nominating old mobile games for this category and showcase more new releases like holy shit.
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u/4N1M3second Honkai Impact/Genshin/Crash Fever/blue archive/Arknight 7d ago
you see, wuthering wave is not here because that shit cant be played in mobile cuz of the shitty optimisation
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u/Swirv- 8d ago
So who do we think is winning?
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u/Budget-Emu-1365 7d ago
Specifically for mobile? Between Genshin and AKE methink. I don't play WWM so I can't comment and Silver Palace is also still in beta. ZZZ is dogshit on mobile. Both Genshin and AKE (only played to 1.0 though) are very well-optimized in mobile compared to ZZZ.
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u/JEROME_MERCEDES 8d ago
Is silver palace any good? Not like anyone could just play it wasnt it only closed betas?
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u/Interesting_Place752 GI AR60 | BA Lv90 | HSR TB70 | ZZZ IK60 | WuWa UL80 7d ago
Silver Palace isn't even out yet. Crazy motion here.
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u/IttoEnjoyer_ 7d ago
just by including Silver Palace this reward has lost any value or meaning... not like it had any to begin with, but still
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u/__breadstick__ Genshin / ZZZ / NTE / UMA / BleachSR / Nikke 8d ago
Man let's go, both Genshin and ZZZ have been awesome this year, I'm happy they're nominated!
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u/MrCovell GI, HSR, ZZZ, Nikke 8d ago
Let’s see how long this post stays up before it needs to be “reviewed”.
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u/Background-Owl-918 8d ago
Uhm how is silver palace up there and it’s not even officially launched…. These awards seem sus!
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u/Existing-Extreme9240 8d ago
Endfield was also nominated last year
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u/Background-Owl-918 8d ago
So are they just going off Betas?
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u/datwunkid 8d ago
Presumably these titles will be playable at Gamescom and will be judged accordingly.
This of it less like a GoTY award that can go to any game every released within the last year, but more like a film festival award where that award can go to anything that's shown there.
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u/Swords-2-Plowshares 8d ago
The award show is paid entry for attending games only.

This looks all over the place. I'd estimate that 30-40% of all the nominated games across all categories are still months away from releasing. Voting starts on the 26th and the award show is just 2 days later?
Anyways, I bet that some clueless judges on the panel are going to make the mistake of voting for Endfield.
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u/New_Economist_9429 8d ago
Genshin losing here is a sure robbery.
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u/Existing-Extreme9240 8d ago
Genshin lost to LADS last year. It could go to anyone
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u/Sufficient_Touch3586 8d ago
Endfield has an outstanding optimisation on mobile and pretty easy endgame (good for mobile), so it is the best game from mobile perspective.
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u/Ilurktoodamnlong 8d ago
I feel like where winds meet in the category is such a funny thing in middle of like all 2D anime games. And suddenly bam, you get to experience a dramatized version of famine, political assassination, economic conspiracy that happen in real history during early Song dynasty 🤣
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u/Apprehensive_Shift70 7d ago
I'm surprised how there are still many chronically online reddit user that dont know how Gamescom award nomination works
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u/theCOMBOguy ULTRA RARE 8d ago
Silver Palace my GOAT getting prizes without even having launched yet 🔥
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u/HonkedOffJohn 7d ago
Is Ananta not a mobile game? I know they got rid of gacha but they’ll be at games com
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u/ChanceNecessary2455 7d ago
Almost 12 since the post is up. Now it's time to read the comments. Hopefully everyone is friendly and wholesome as always.
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u/thetoy323 7d ago
can these game really be able to play on mobile phone? not just on run be actually play.
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u/Mortgage-Present This is a cry for help 8d ago
What in the world is silver palace doing here