r/gunsmithing • u/inserttext1 • 3d ago
Straight rifling help
So I'm working on a fun project of making a 1911 shotshell platform, and I managed to score a completely blank, unrifled barrel, and there lies the biggest issue I have. As is, I cannot put it into a gun, as that would make it an AoW, which aren't legal in my state. Now obviously, if I put traditional spiral rifling on it, I would not only defeat the purpose of getting a completely blank barrel in the first place, but I would also negatively impact the spread of pellets. I have heard through some historical sources and a modern company that straight rifling not only wouldn't negatively impact shot spreading, it would also make it not an AoW anymore. So my question is there any modern company that does this type of rifling?
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u/SteveHamlin1 3d ago
Modern company selling a straight-grooved firearm: https://franklinarmory.com/reformation/
(it's not rifling of any sort because it is not spiral)
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u/Neetbuxthor 3d ago edited 3d ago
If you find a way to make extremely shallow (but still obviously there, for ATF compliance) and extremely slow twist rate rifling (for example, 1:66 or 1:72 or slower isnt unheard of for muzzle loaders) that would minimize the downside while staying technically legal.
I think the hard part would be actually forming or cutting the grooves. Maybe home builders or 3d printed firearm enthusiasts could chime in? I've heard talk of using electricity to erode rifling into blank barrels before, but never looked that deep into it.
Edit: I'd recommend you look into button rifling. This might be your solution, if you can make a custom rifling button with lathe/millwork, it just might work.
Edit2: This is the video that came to mind https://youtu.be/bJLnFXS1zxI?is=MIG4-HUk3XzKMWlW
Good luck!
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u/CleverHearts 2d ago
Unless it's a 410 you're making a DD. The exemption for >.5" bore only applies to shotguns and some rifles, not handguns.
Rifling cutters are pretty easy to make. Look at the ones PTG sells to get an idea of what you need. You can use your lathe to cut the rifling, similar to broaching a keyway on a lathe.
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u/TacTurtle 1d ago
Straight rifling works dandy for shotshells - TC Condenders were set up like this.
Typically this straight rifling would be done on a custom basis using a broach cutter pressed or pulled through the barrel or using EDM.
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u/Suspectgore074 SuperLongSlide1911 3d ago
What tools/machines do you have?