r/learntodraw • u/JARStheFox • 1d ago
Critique Critique my form study?
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(Traced beginning shapes from a Pinterest pose)
Is this study helpful, and did I do okay? What can I do different?
I'm new to studying form and I'm struggling a lot with overwhelm from too much information. I'm following a suggestion in the documentary Learn to Draw Comics the Marvel Way, I know this doesn't look Marvel lol but I've never tried drawing shapes for bodies. It seems like I did it right, I feel like the anatomy mostly makes sense? Idk lol any critique is useful
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u/boo-was-taken 1d ago edited 23h ago
Your boxes are wrong, lines should converge in vanishing points. Look up two point perspective and practice this.
The ribcage is in the wrong perspective, you shouldn't be able to see that much of the top plane, just as you can't see the top of her shoulders from the reference.
This is great practice but I feel like you're trying to run before you walk. Get comfortable drawing proper boxes in perspective first, then apply that to the human form.
Hope this helps
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u/JARStheFox 23h ago
Extremely helpful, actually! I'll definitely practice box perspectives. Thank you for the advice, I appreciate you a bunch! <3
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u/VinaigreIslamique 23h ago edited 23h ago
Not really sure if what you're saying is correct. I'm pretty much a beginner, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt, but:
The lines of the boxes will only converge to the same vanishing point if they're parallel. In the case of a twisting body like that, the lines of the boxes will converge along the same line, which will be the horizon line, but at different points on that line. I think that's pretty much what OP tried to do with his boxes, and it feels pretty okay to me.
As for the rib cage, well, we can still see it from above since, in the reference picture, the horizon line seems to be a little bit above the model's eye level. So everything else will be seen from above.
Now, in the case of this drawing, we're kind of missing the twisting of the model's upper body, so that's probably what you mean when you say we shouldn't have been able to see the rib cage : in the reference, the model has the right shoulder at face level and the left is way lower and it doesn't really show in your end result
Also OP, for what it's worth, I feel like even if it more complicated and give less immedtiate result, I think you should try to not to trace anything but directly drawing on a blank canvas to get a sense of how to find perspective (or maybe creating your own guideline with a grid)
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u/swashbuckleup 23h ago
Yes, the different boxes will have their lines converge in different places. However, I believe @boo-was-taken isn't talking about that, they're pointing out that the parallel lines within each specific box are not converging either, which is true. Also I'd like to point out that while boxes turned "sideways" have their vanishing points converge on the same horizon line, this is not true for boxes which may be turned "upwards" or "downward", which is somewhat the case in the image.
I do agree that we could feasibly see the top of the ribcage. We can't see the top of the shoulders because the shoulders are drawn up, so they're not a good indicator of where her ribcage is.
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u/boo-was-taken 23h ago
I didn't want to overexplain as to not overwhelm OP. Yes, only parallel lines converge on the same point, boxes have sets of parallel lines, and would converge along the same line as you rotate them horizontally. I'm not sure OP intentionally stretched and distorted these shapes, he said he's new to these kind of studies, imo he should stick with standard shapes first and manipulate their form later on
You are correct about the ribcage, the horizon should be slightly above it, so you could technically see a little tiny bit of the top plane.
I very much agree with your advice about not tracing
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