r/libsofreddit TRAUMATIZER 16h ago

Who could have seen this coming?

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u/goldynmoons 16h ago

Has this person heard of banking before?

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u/Bravesguy29 16h ago

I know don't they already have r that money at their disposal unless theyre talking total seizure.

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u/Jordangander TRAUMATIZER 15h ago

They are talking about controlling where banks can invest your money.

So if a new green start up needs money, they are going to require the bank to provide that money, from your savings.

If the start up fails, well, so sorry, so sad, that is the risk of these things you know. Sorry your bank is no longer solvent and can't give people their money.

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u/Ekati_X 16h ago

Not just Billionaires 'hoarding wealth' it seems..

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u/West-Word-604 16h ago

so glad i dont live over there

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u/Yideaz 14h ago

I hope they double down on the ‘tards with TDS who moved there to escape “fascism@.

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u/Stirbmehr 16h ago

Yeah, it was such fucking weird speech...i can totally see people getting concerned over it. It probably gotta cause some people to move from European banks, just in case.

Notice that it wasn't your usual nothingburger economic panel type of boring speech and she didn't spin it from angle "we need to incentivize investment in local markets. Therefore we gonna do X and Y to ensure it yield higher return".

No, it was bitterly hawkish and she was short of directly blaming people for investing overseas in more profitable endeavours. And wording sounded uncomfortably close to suggestion for nationalisation of banking sector or otherwise mandating institutions to invest locally, by force.

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u/Jordangander TRAUMATIZER 15h ago

They are going to mandate banks invest your money the way the government wants them to invest.

Which will lead to the government telling them what companies to invest in amd how much.

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u/Stirbmehr 14h ago

Gotta bail out fucking Volkswagen with little to none return...And i don't even want to start on green initiatives.

I geniunely hope that i just overreaction over very poorly though out speech, but if they indeed not incentivize but try to bruteforce it with EU signature bureaucracy, it will be so fucking over for Europe.

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u/talex625 16h ago

I don’t really get what she wants? Government savings accounts or something instead of bank savings accounts?

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u/Stirbmehr 15h ago

She knows for a fact that EU green initiatives, ridiculous abominable bureaucracy, immigration stuff and whole Ukraine funding ordeal killing any chances for Europe to stay relevant economically and by that, politically. Oversimplifying it, world now is split between US and China influence, but EU still think of itself not as lesser, but as equal player.

Without going into weeds and technicalities, Bankers being bankers look for bigger profits, so even assets of people who not actively investing by themselves, but just deposit them in European banks bound to be (trough secure layers) likely invested in more lucrative markets of US or China. Which rubs EU bureaucrats wrong way, less opportunity to spend it on more immigration and green initiatives.

And as any good power hungry bureaucratic rat with illusions of grandeur she express EU intent to outright force local investment. Not incentivize, force.

The fact that she even spoke about it in way she did is already very alarming signal. It means that conversation are happening behind closed doors.

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u/talex625 15h ago

I think I understand. She wants europeans to park their money in Europeans banking companies. Regardless if their are better investments with overseas banks?

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u/SpottyWeevil00 15h ago

Sounds like a great way to cause a run on the banks

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u/Opening_Bluebird_935 16h ago

Guess they can start stuffing their mattresses with their savings?

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u/CobblerCandid998 TRAUMATIZER 16h ago

But it’s the other side who are the Nazis… mmm-hmm, sure Jan.

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u/CobblerCandid998 TRAUMATIZER 16h ago

Savings are LAZY!!??? So thievery is now a respectable job? 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/GoldTeamDowntown 16h ago

I’m confused, are people being forced to take out their money and invest it? Or is their money in their bank account being forcibly invested?

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u/Weary-Cartoonist2630 15h ago

All money in banks already gets invested. Thats how banks work.

What she’s proposing is instead of the bank deciding the best way to invest that money, they should have economically illiterate bureaucrats do it.

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u/LuckyStiff63 TRAUMATIZER 15h ago

... have economically illiterate bureaucrats do it.

Or... Even worse... Bureaucrats who may be economically literate enough to steer economies in directions that give their government masters even more power and control over the lives of ordinary citizens.

All for the citizens' own good, of course...

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u/GoldTeamDowntown 15h ago

Why is she suggesting all that money is sitting there stale though?

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u/Weary-Cartoonist2630 12h ago

She’s not. That’s the initial impression given by the title and maybe the first 10 seconds of the video, but she goes on to specify that her problem is that that money gets invested in other continents as opposed to focusing on European investments.

So it’s not as dumb as just saying it’s being hoarded, but it’s still pretty dumb. It’s an isolationist economic viewpoint that doesn’t understand basic concepts of competitive advantage and the benefits a country/continent gets from freely trading/investing with outside countries/continents.

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u/GoldTeamDowntown 12h ago edited 10h ago

Got it. Yeah I understand wanting to invest domestically but that’s going to limit them against getting the best investments, which will often be American. And that absolutely is government overreach to force them to invest where she wants them to. Gross.

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u/Weary-Cartoonist2630 8h ago

The thing is that investment is best done without restriction and going where you can get the highest return, because that gives your own country more money to use.

It’s much like trade. Sure you can buy a $5 pencil made in America and it supports that one pencil maker, or you could buy an equivalent $0.50 from China and have an extra $4.50 to spend on other goods, while directing the US pencil makers to use their labor for more productive and high value work that we have a stronger competitive advantage in.

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u/TypicalBloke83 15h ago

It’s not our fault that it’s not worth to invest in EU. Maybe do some more regulations and play the climate change card that makes companies to pay more for emissions - that’ll work out great.

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u/EuroTrash_84 14h ago

The EU is the fourth Reich.

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u/Honorablemention69 14h ago

American Democrats are jealous!

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u/Sherviks13 15h ago

Who wants to invest into a negative roi?

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u/Adventurous_Pick_927 13h ago

No wonder Iceland voted NO on EU membership

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u/SunriseSwede BASED 14h ago

What a fantastic ad for gold and silver!

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u/zenethics 12h ago

Meanwhile... literally every bitcoiner for a decade

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u/ReaperManX15 16h ago

Okay.
Start with the richest and work your way down.

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u/me_myself_and_my_dog MICROAGGRESSOR 16h ago

That never happens. Think how California tells the poorest Joe that they can't drive their beater pickup because it burns some oil and gets 15 mpg, but won't say shit to Taylor Swift using her private jet to get ice cream even though that single trip will burn more fuel than Joe will in his entire life.

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u/BraxTaplock 12h ago

If Europe wasn’t such a shitty investment, they might…. For all their shit talk about healthcare and social programs blah blah blah…they have no real money, militaries or means to survive without the help from the US.

They’re able to do that because of the US help. End it and watch the petri dish start annihilating each other then we can pick up the pieces. We’d helped had they not been so shitty about Iran…oh well…not our fight.

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u/Cap_Teach 10h ago

When is she gonna open up her savings account to contribute?

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u/Eastern-Camera-1829 MICROAGGRESSOR 12h ago

Holy hell, she's German (as am I in genes.) Find me a German that is not an avid money hoarder other than her.

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u/bloodguard 7h ago

I guess they're running out of the usual sources of "other people's money" so they need to get creative.

Buckle up, Europe.

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u/pm_me_ur_anything_k MICROAGGRESSOR 2h ago

She should show where her money is first

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u/lechimpanzeu 15h ago

She's right.