r/nutritionally • u/PeteWK67 • 2d ago
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u/dutchof-deez 1d ago edited 1d ago
OP trying to make Fauci look bad from his statement at seconds 4-10. So yeah, Fauci right, in fact that same logic applies to any sickness the compromises the immune response system, how else is the brain going to learn what a threat is?
Vaccine's are a dumbed down version of the actual sickness, and more often than not, the vaccine is dead version if not providing live rounds, so your body will fight it off easier and provide instructions to the brain about what is a threat and what is not.
Edit: mispelled words
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u/PeteWK67 1d ago
MRNA is not dumbed down version of a virus
mRNA gives you a genetic blueprint in this case a synthetic version of the spike protein.
In the history of vaccines, never has one been recommended to pregnant women without proving efficiency & safe. That takes decades and it’s with what you mention dead virus.
Fauci knew that it could cause miscarriages but yet still pushed it.When looking at Fauci track record from saying the more people that have AIDS the better we will fight it.
He’s in court, not one word, meanwhile all he knew to say is that it’s science.
So science didn’t prove it’s safe or efficient.Trust me even if it’s Trump’s boys that just don’t like Fauci and they are doing this.
There is no chance in Hell that a person that saved so many lives even the scum of the scum wouldn’t be doing this to Fauci.
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u/Most_Present_6577 1d ago
Non of that is true at all. Mrna has a shorter life in the body than dna from any other vaccines. DNA is a blueprint mrna is the like "mail man" that caries the info from the dna. The science has proven the covid vaccine safe and efficient.
Stop pretending to know what you dont.
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u/PeteWK67 1d ago
Science didn’t probe F alll..
mRNA doesn’t have a shorter anything. Synthetic spike protein is found in autopsies in brains and heart and blood.
Antibodies triggered from the mRNA vaccine in some
Cases show abnormal amounts of antibodies and for many months after which is not normal.Science proved it safe. Buddy it takes a decade to prove that, effective for what exactly? The first variant?
Maybe that’s why they started with oh 95% protection and you can’t catch it
To 70% and you can catch light covid
Then 55% you just get a boost .
If you can’t admit that you might of got manipulated from Fear over Faith.
A society in fear can be manipulated.
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u/Most_Present_6577 21h ago
This isnt even an argument. Your point is what?
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u/PeteWK67 20h ago
MRNA: synthetic made spike protein - that lasts longer in the body.
Like you said that triggers your immune response to create antibodies regarding the new synthetic spike protein that entered the body.
Some create astronomical amounts of antibodies for unheard amount of time.
So basically your immune system response gets manipulated to be ready at any given time like firefighters chilling and they run like
Maniacs. But they don’t 30000 firemen waiting. Same thing . Antibodies are basically all manipulated on a synthetic version of a spike protein . Variants changed yet the body was still producing more and more.Don’t you think that any other problem that might occurs, your body immune system response will be occupied.
Furthermore when they find the synthetic spike protein in the brain. Heart - blood .
That is not a good thing at all . Very bad.I find logically right now. Let’s say I had 3 jabs . Like 3 years ago ..
would I depend on these 3 year old jabs to protect?No. 0% protection right now
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Ive been called a drifter drinking Kool aid lost looking for my therapist.
SureSo what is the point now to prove if it was a great move or foolish.
What I know is the ones that didn’t take it and survived without ever catching covid or introducing a synthetic version of a spike protein.
The ones that did take it, you have the responsibility to your well being and body to detox if unfortunately the spike protein is still inside.
Sweat, sauna, over the counter minerals etc.
Why hold it in the body for what?
Science proved that mRNA jab can be used on humans.
That’s all . Then Fauci etc took that . And manipulated to make it sound like science said it’s safe.
He kept on saying it’s Science. Anyways who cares. People need to respect their body and do your system a favour and detox , it doesn’t matter for what, it’s great to detox either way.1
u/dutchof-deez 1d ago edited 1d ago
No one said mRNA was dumbed down, I used general terminology "Vaccine's are a dumbed down". If you knew how to read you would know what I said
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u/n3wacc0unt-1 1d ago
Yes, he is right - in this clip. The whole point is that in the pandemic he was encouraging people who had gotten infected to get a vaccine for a variant that had already spread - which is pointless by his admission in this clip.
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u/LichKingDan 1d ago
The danger of coronavirus is that it mutates much more quickly than the common flu, often circumventing whatever immunity your body creates from getting infected the first time. That's why there are so many strains that come out all the time, and why you could get COVID like 12 times in a few years.
We also did not have a vaccine readily available for coronavirus at the time (ironically not unlike influenza), which cause many deaths and hospitalizations and forced many governments around the world to take precautions that now seem extreme (but aren't, we just have survivorship bias).
There are a number of things I would criticize about the handling of coronavirus (like the fact that we knew about it nearly a year in advance and did nothing to prevent the spread, that our news media put out all sorts of theories dressed as facts about the origin point of the virus, how fauci lied about masks instead of just telling people "hey we gotta leave the masks for people who have to work in public or around the virus constantly", how maga is currently trying to undercut the thing that Donald Trump did right in the wake of COVID, etc) but like this whole circus of trying to simultaneously not read anything about virology or rna vaccines or the science and data of the situation and surrounding subjects but also prove fauci wrong about virology and rna vaccines and all of this shit is fucking ridiculous. I can't imagine looking that stupid all the time, I would kill myself out of embarrassment (not a call for suicide, im saying that's what I would do)
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u/n3wacc0unt-1 1d ago
Covid doesn't mutate more quickly than the flu - you just made that up.
It mutating has made it weaker and more diffuse also.
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u/LichKingDan 1d ago
Yeah my bad, I was thinking of it mutating more quickly than other DNA focused viruses and got mixed up.
It's not really that COVID is weaker now, it's that more people have gotten more effective vaccines than what was mass produced during the pandemic. Its still pretty easily spread and a rough sickness for people who do get infected.
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u/PeteWK67 1d ago
Anything only slightly changes when felt threatened. If a virus is living in a free world . It would take decades and decades of strong type virus that becomes a big past event. If you think about it logically a virus excels at certain things then you add Scientists working in a lab of function of taking that strong aspects of change and elevating + likely a bat virus + some type of herps . Human body can obliverate anything that comes facing.
My opinion is if true that purposely new viruses are made and tested and wait for one with good feedback to release.
It seems to me that they have
Figured or close to the gain of function on viruses capable of bad stuff anything breathing. Lungs .. I think that’s the easiest intro inside you.I expect pneumonia type herps + bad & rat disease + aluminum . Add like
Covid Old variant . And bamBe ready I expect a similar covid in 13 years
Faith over Fear
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u/boforbojack 1d ago
Hmmmm I wonder if there's some room for context and critical thinking here. Like maybe, COVID and the Flu are two distinct viruses. And maybe, the Flu had decades of studies that showed if a person contracted the virus, they were readily safe for that years dominant strain. And maybe, COVID was new and didnt have the same rigorous testing so it was unknown if getting the virus would provide long-lasting protection (like the multitude of viruses that don't).
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u/n3wacc0unt-1 1d ago
There is nuance here. Because is it standard procedure for some diseases to get vaccinated after "getting" the disease - Rabies would be the classic example.
It ends up being true though that for COVID the vaccine which was made from the original strain didn't offer better protection than by catching it or it's variants.
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u/rdptx 1d ago
What he said is true, once you get the illness, thats the strongest test for the body. Unfortunately IF lots of people are dying from an illness, some folks may prefer a vaccine rather than roll the dice on getting through it (or potentially surviving it with long term complications).
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u/Repulsive-Cress-7567 1d ago
"Prefer" people lost their jobs when they didn’t "prefer" the vaccine.
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u/MetaCardboard 1d ago
Maybe don't be a public health threat when you can easily choose not to be.
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u/Repulsive-Cress-7567 1d ago
Wasn’t a choice for some people that’s the point. Once you are forced to do something your civil rights no longer exist in that moment.
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u/MetaCardboard 1d ago
Get a free vaccine or lose your job? Seems pretty straightforward. You don't have a right to work for a company, it's an agreement between you and the company. If you don't follow their rules you get fired. No one is taking your rights away.
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u/electric_bug_glue 1d ago
Funny how money always changes "the science." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr5HykZrJTQ
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u/rusty_cayge 1d ago
He’s a fucking rotten snake. Criminal
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u/MrPhoon 1d ago
And you are a moron who doesn't understand basic high school science
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u/rusty_cayge 1d ago
Oh look. Here come the lefties to defend his contradictions. Boot lickers. Fascists. Racists.
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u/Paradoxmoose 1d ago
He said *IF* the person already had the flu, they don't then later need to get the flu vaccine.
He didn't recommend people avoid getting the vaccine so they could get sick and then be protected from the flu again.
I hope you can understand the distinction.
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u/rusty_cayge 1d ago
Bro. I’m a scientist. I have a degree in physics so I know all about it. Do you do science? Probably not. So my word here had a lot more weight than yours or do you not believe a scientist? Yeah. That’s what I thought. Boom. Roasted. Mic drop.
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u/Paradoxmoose 1d ago
I literally do cancer research, and I stuck to the subject- not an ad hominem.
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u/here_for_thedonuts 1d ago
There is a substantial difference between getting infected by the flu and being infected with COVID-19. While the flu can be deadly, COVID was much more deadly.
Moreover, the risks of the COVID vaccine were minimal because of the way it was created.
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u/rusty_cayge 1d ago
Actually, the risks of that jab were much greater. It wasn’t a vaccine by definition. It was a work of genetic manipulation. I’ll bet if the dem party and the leftists told you tomrrow o belief that the jab was bad, you’d be out rioting (aka mostly peace protesting) within 24 hrs
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u/Beyond_Reason09 1d ago
Why don't you ask a doctor instead of a politician about health issues you freak.
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u/here_for_thedonuts 1d ago
Actually, the risks of that jab were much greater.
Based upon ZERO evidence. If you understood what it was -- essentially triggering the body to create the spike proteins -- you would realize that it was much safer than getting COVID itself.
It wasn’t a vaccine by definition.
A vaccine, by definition, is a medical preparation that trains the body's immune system. Consequently, the COVID-19 shot is a vaccine.
I’ll bet if the dem party and the leftists told you tomrrow o belief that the jab was bad, you’d be out rioting (aka mostly peace protesting) within 24 hrs
That's the difference between the left and the right (i.e., "I love the poorly-educated"). Many on the left don't take what is said by the party leaders at face value. There is a reason why the right does not like the education. Education is the means by which people learn critical thinking. It is far easier to food uneducated than it is to fool highly-educated.
FYI, the development of the COVID-19 vaccines literally took decades of research and testing. If you want a timeline, read this:
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/decades-making-mrna-covid-19-vaccines
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u/Soggy-Raspberry-1524 1d ago
Wasn't this before RNA shots were available?
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u/PeteWK67 1d ago
Correct
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u/Soggy-Raspberry-1524 1d ago
I guess I'm confused by the post. It appears anti-Fauci because of the somewhat 'anti-vaccine' position he's taking, but that's not the same as RNA vaccines, and the common flu isn't the same thing as a pandemic.
Personally, I think we overreacted on some things and underreacted on others, but some of that's to be expected. No nation did the same thing, so there was bound to be over/under-reactions from all nations. Yes?
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u/PeteWK67 1d ago
The only nation that I know of that I respect their way of handling it was Japan.
I’m very passive on this subject and I fully support ones decision on what they choose to introduce to their bodies.
Japan said We encourage vaccinations, but we urge for every single person to conduct multiple researches from many sources.
Then they said as owners of any type of business it is 100% illegal to ask a person if Jab or not & illegal to enforce obligatory vaccinations .
When only one bad adverse reaction happened they instantly pulled out that Lot.
I find that’s freedom and they played the role of protecting their citizens.
I didn’t like Doctors being scared ape sht to speak about it since licences were getting stripped.
I didn’t like the process of delay that they implemented with an Adverse reaction hot line.
I didn’t like the under reporting with the reason being it will cause Fear and can have dangerous consequences.
Meanwhile their #1 toll for many months was exactly that Fear.
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u/Soggy-Raspberry-1524 1d ago
I'm not understanding this: "When only one bad adverse reaction happened, they instantly pulled out that Lot." They pulled out what?
I get that a doctor might be scared to speak out, but I think that's our medical system, not necessarily because of COVID. Two docs in Modesto did speak out, and I remember they took some heat, but again, I don't think it was as much Covid as it was our system.
This is unrelated, but when I see someone afraid of losing their license, it'd be ABC and CBS for allowing Jimmy Kimmel and Steven Colbert to tell jokes about Trump. That's very cut and dry what happened. I totally disagree with what Trump and Carr did, but I'm not trying to make this a left and right issue. I'm using that to make a point about 'professionals' scared to speak out. I don't think this was the same thing as the COVID docs.
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u/PeteWK67 1d ago
A lot number is an identification number referring to the same batch. Like in Legal cannabis in Canada the lot numbers indicates the batch.
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u/PeteWK67 1d ago edited 1d ago
What they did that was done well
1st - leaked video from
China that surfaced for about 10-12 days online and disappeared showing people in random places falling face first. Fear factor established and then they pull the video.Then slowly news starting picking it up, began with tracking a case, oh he or she took bus # 18 went to shop at this store..
Then the Pick 4 lotto results was the intro of every news show. Just like the lottery is fixed, God bless for all that lost their life to covid but those numbers just like the lotto were rigged.
When you hear stories like a stroke or 93 year old and the hospital so eager to put covid caused it and the family is in a back and forth to fight that.
Meanwhile hospitals were making a Bonus from
Every case.So videos of ppl dropping, pick 4 daily numbers, tracking individual cases.. then triggered from
Bozo UTAH Jazz Tall French player kissing the microphone and ya he was positive after that lol .
That slowly triggered every sport to shut down and leave with Russian ping pong to bet on.Then March 15 shut down everything..
I believe 110% especially at the start Covid was nothing to F with .
This for me was 1111000000% manufactured in these Lab of functions with the idiotic true statement that they say oh we test to see if it’s a danger to humanity.Even if they perfected a virus, the human body immune response is capable of many many things.
They fabricate many many things but they don’t work, they kind of nailed covid but with time
It gets weak.Another example was homeless people that do not have many healthy cells were barely sick.
People that had amazing health got hit hard.
So what that tells me
Is that it’s a fabricated virus that had specific instructions on attacking healthy cells.Then you had science backing it up within a week . Then you had every news sources repeating every single word exactly the same.
Then you had stories like the World bank Wtv offering Belarus billions to shut down the country.
The fear tactic worked 100% on me. I was going to places with a n95 mask.
Why I didn’t take the jab . For one I’ll admit it I’m scared of needles.
And then when the manipulation began,that was enough for me to be like something is off.
Never caught covid, never got tested
People that know me, they know I’m a germ a freak.
I continued washing my hands as usual, I continued until now never ever using a public washroom, I continued never touching my face, I continue avoid door handles, light switches, I don’t sit on a warm seat that someone was there, I hate close talkers & I will point it out, I see someone coughing I’ll walk away.
It’s not about being jabbed and feeling like oh I can be a cowboy with hygiene..
Be a clean respectful person and no need for anything
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u/horizontal120 1d ago
What is the point of this post ?
What he is saying is common knowledge ...
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u/kaiser_phoenix25 1d ago
Be scared!!!!!! Fauci scary!!!!!!! Just another dumbass post meant to spread discord.
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u/ItzHymn 1d ago
If you can't differentiate the need for a COVID vaccine during a pandemic vs the the usual flu vaccine then please do not have children.
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u/Sesusija 1d ago
You can argue for COVID vaccination without pretending basic immunology changes depending on which virus we're discussing. The irony of accusing someone else of lacking scientific literacy is doing a lot of work here.
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u/Fickle-Mortgage-827 1d ago
It was never about the immunity, it's about the mortality rate. You had a much higher chance of dying of covid at 91 deaths per 100k compared to 13 from the flu. My parents have had covid 4 times and my 83 year old father got covid last week and it turned to pneumonia.
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u/Sesusija 1d ago
COVID deaths since 2020 - 7.1 million globally
Flu deaths since 2020 - 2.5 - 4.9 million globallyEven during a global COVID outbreak the common flu is still putting up numbers rivaling it.
You should absolutely be immunizing for the common flu. I would say it is not even debatable that it is important than getting COVID vaccinations at this point in time.
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u/Fickle-Mortgage-827 1d ago
During the pandemic, flu was not putting up the same numbers and people were dying way more from covid. Yeah, its not a debate about this point in time, its about 2020. Heard immunity wouldnt have worked at the time without massive casualties to the elderly and immune compromised. Thats why we needed a vaccine
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u/ItzHymn 1d ago
And you can pretend to know what a strawman is. COVID was a problem because of its mortality rate and infectiousness. It's twice as contagious as the seasonal flu. The need for vaccines and masks was never about the average person dying from it. It was always meant as a means to slow the spread and prevent as much loss of life to those with compromised immune systems as much as was possible. With that settled, do not reproduce.
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u/Equivalent-Metal9393 1d ago
It does change. You are looking at it from a basic level. COVID for example has a mechanism that actually harms your immune system. You can actually lose immunity after getting it. Getting covid isn't a reliable way to developing immunity.
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u/Sesusija 1d ago
So does every virus. There are thousands of documented cases of influenza aka the flu causing immune dysregulation and immunopathology.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-024-01029-11
u/Equivalent-Metal9393 1d ago
There's a difference in methodology between the flu and covid. The flu virus just wrecks house and causes the immune system to go crazy. Covid has a mechanism that actively harms the immune system and even systems to evade detection, similarly to HIV. You're actually more likely to develop immunity from Covid by getting vaccinated and within a few months of vaccination getting COVID. Your body, having fought it, can prevent the immunity reset and build a more robust response.
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u/Tll6 1d ago
His whole point was that if you currently have the flu you don’t need to get vaccinated because of how our immune system works. He’s not saying “go out and purposely get the flu.” He’s still advocating people get the flu vaccine but if you have already had the flu this year then there isn’t a point
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u/tdreampo 1d ago
Yes once someone has had a virus for FOURTEEN DAYS a vaccine wont do very much to protect them.
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u/Adavanter_MKI 1d ago
This feels like it's meant to be provocative? It aligns with science. Just as the severity of covid aligned with "get a vaccine at all costs before the real virus hits you." As Covid was a very different beast and far more lethal than normal. Which is why 1.1 million people died in the U.S in 2 years. Where an abnormally deadly flu season would see something like 65,000. Again... that was abnormally high. Not the average. So we lost (roughly) 500,000 a year instead.
Which yeah... pretty alarming.
Better to take a much weakened vaccine variant that almost anyone could survive versus the % risk of the full blown virus. Shame the message had to be so muddled by politics. Even a horrible crisis couldn't unite us.
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u/Left_Implement_3821 1d ago
Wait until you guys realize vaccines are just a weaker version of the disease meant to get your body to create antibodies like it does when you get a disease naturally.
But that would require using some logic , so I can see why many of you couldn’t get that far
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u/LVRaiders2026 1d ago
The fact that this is even getting traction and needs to be explained is just mind blowing. As a society we are going downhill fast.
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u/Most_Present_6577 20h ago
Dont wish gallop. All of that is wrong. Would you like to go point by point so I can convince you or would you rather keep believing a ton of wrong things
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u/PeteWK67 20h ago
Regardless of right or wrong. You’re trying to have a strong opinion about historic things in the past.
Time to move on, time for you Americans to unite and stop this childish division of Red - Blue & poop & sleepy .Like common they used Covid to divide you guys and your building on that.
Who gives a F . All I know is now the ones that opposed everything are getting summit to testify etc.
So move on and wait and see if the evidence shows you can continue trusting them or not.
Everything about it actually getting challenged in court, we had a Cerfew here and the Gouv is in court getting sued for it.
It’s cool to have a strong character and back all decisions & look
Confident. But seriously that is completely useless in every possible way, of still giving a strong opinion on something that entered your body and not mine.
So I can agree that you did the right thing for yourself. Sure.. there’s nothing to convince, I’m not the one with synthetic spike proteins in the body, I have no problem with Jabs , I have a problem with manipulation and fear factors.1
u/Most_Present_6577 20h ago
You just refuse to choose to go point by point. Are you even interested in the truth?
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u/PeteWK67 20h ago
There’s no point.
Detoxing in general is a good thing.
Sweat gets rid of a lot of toxicity .
I think we all use a detox, some missing minerals, vitamins, amino acids.
Fasting on certain food.
It’s healthy regular stuff.
On the topic of I was right and they were wrong.
Unless it’s an educational class for the next one that comes along.
I am not attending the class.
I will never ever ever get a jab for Influenza or Covid.
I don’t jab vs these type of viruses.
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u/PeteWK67 19h ago
And for the record I have never caught influenza, never tested, never jab, covid same never tested, never jab, never had it.
A lot of not very hygienic people ,the Jab gave them
A false sense of security that they can hold their nasty tendencies in public.My brain has been disgusted from normal human behaviour in public many moons ago .
You can’t imagine. How my brain works.
Let’s say I was chilling with someone. And he had to use the restroom and then to grind the greens with his fingers to roll it.
I would never smoke it and I would offer for me to grind it..
People like to wash stuff in the sink like food. I don’t like that.
Busses packed someone gets up, I will never sit on a warm seat that someone was sitting
Anywhere same thing.
I touch unknown objects, I will not touch my face.
I don’t so close talkers, I don’t want to kiss girls on the cheek when I see them, I don’t wanna shake hands either.
This is decades not covid.
Every door knob I open there’s a trail of tissues.
Door bells same thing.
I had crazier ocd .. I would actually take my own stuff roll one for 2 people. Tell them here take that for free smoke it you 2 . So I can’t smoke mine alone.
Dirty fingers on my J , a mouth can have all types of bacteria.
So people know me like that, everyone expected me to shulve away the people in front of me to be first in line.
But needles in my skin
, before starting . Where is that needle from, is it clean, the. I had 0 intention of doing it but from the start, from the 30 min show here every day, to the nyc jumbo eating fries and talking to all, and level of care that has never been seen from politicians, to manipulating threats if you say no.I know how to read people and just like a poker table , too many tells something is of. I trusted my gut feeling and I always had Faith over Fear
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u/Outlandish_Gringo 1d ago
The Fauci backers on this post are swarming heavily in the comments 😂
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u/but_i_wanna_cookies 1d ago
The idiots, like yourself, who won't listen to the logic are heavily open-mouth drooling in the comments.
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u/Outlandish_Gringo 1d ago
Do your own research and read into the internal communications Fauci had.
You might change your mind, cupcake
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u/J8w34qgo3 1d ago
"The people who passed biology class in high-school are swarming heavily in the comments 😂"
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u/Doctor-Pip- 1d ago edited 19h ago
He's correct. It only "hits different" if you're brainrotted.
Edit: Go ahead and downvote u/PeteWK67
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u/sweatboxy 1d ago
Fauci’s right as usual and probably went on to say that she should get the flu vaccine next year BEFORE she gets the flu. The whole point in getting vaccinated is not to get sick.
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u/jardin92 1d ago
Is this momma vs pharma an anti vax account cause this seems wildly out of context. I’m sure he is saying that it is both true that yes thats the most potent protection, AND ALSO you should get a vaccine to avoid getting sick in the first place. What a dumb post
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u/MaitrePuck 1d ago edited 1d ago
Morons in the comment section don't remember when Fauci forced the vaccine on people who had already contracted Covid, recovered and had gained natural immunity. Those who objected to it faced professional penalties. 🤷🏻♂️
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u/dogscatsnscience 1d ago
Natural immunity, like the vaccine, has a limited window and limited effects. COVID evolved fast and getting sick from one variant did not protect you from another.
The vaccine itself is only strongly effective for around 3 months, and fairly effective for 6. But it's dramatically preferable and safer than getting sick and the consequences for others around you.
If you don't understand how any of this works, don't stick your hand up.
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u/GeeYayZeus 1d ago
Yes, you get vaccinated BEFORE you get the illness. Once you have it, it's too late to get vaccinated.
Goddamn, how did you people become this stupid?
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u/corkey5 1d ago
Sick fuck
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u/cornishwildman76 1d ago
Nothing he said contradicts his stance on the covid vaccine.
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u/girugamesh_2009 1d ago
It definitely does.
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u/Aconite13X 1d ago
No you fucking moron.
Once you get the disease the vaccine wont do anything because you already have it. Its also going to be the most potent version of the disease, hence it "the best" inoculation.
The down side? You might get very sick or fucking die.
Vaccines give you a much weaker inert or otherwise easy way for you body to effectively combat what would otherwise be a possibly life threatening disease. Thats what builds immunity, wHo KnEw.
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u/MaitrePuck 1d ago
If the disease was the potent version and people caught it, recovered and gained natural immunity, why were those people still forced to get the vaccine?
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u/That_Routine_3976 1d ago
That's either a bot account you're responding to or a submental. I would pay to watch a reality TV show where you put 10,000 anti vaxxers on an island and have them get herd immunity to various diseases that already have vaccines.
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u/girugamesh_2009 1d ago
What are you even arguing here?
The point here is that Fauci is arguing that natural immunity gained by influenza exposure is real but the same thing doesn't apply to COVID. That's ridiculous.2
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u/Superb_Algae5308 1d ago
This is dumb.
A) he’s right
B) that wasn’t what he told people to do during Covid or EVER. He said get vaccinated.