r/offbeat • u/kleudorian • 5d ago
Andrew Garfield Once Pitched a Bisexual Spider-Man — And Wanted Michael B. Jordan as Peter Parker's Male MJ
https://www.fashiontimes.co.uk/andrew-garfield-spider-man-male-love-interest-1763288370
u/newbeginnings187 5d ago
Bi-Der-Man
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u/Hearing_Loss 5d ago
Biderman, biderman, fucks whoever he thinks he can.
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u/The-Cosmic-Ghost 5d ago
Bi-der-man, bi-der-man
Does whatever a bi guy can
Is he straight? Not the case
He's in love with M.J gender neutral
Look out! Here comes bi-der-man
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u/newbeginnings187 5d ago
Bi-Der-Man vs The Sinister Sex. Dock Cock, Cream Gobblin’ etc…
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u/fuzzhead12 4d ago
Biderman vs. The Lot Lizard: will the Bar-Crawler be able to resist the temptations of the fiendish Lot Lizard, or will they be lured into the cab of his 18 wheeler for good??
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u/pmjm 5d ago
He's literally already MJ.
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u/whiskeytango55 5d ago
now write a scene that has monogrammed towels in the background. we can save dozens of dollars. Dozens!
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u/succed32 5d ago
He wanted to sling something other than webbing I see.
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u/finnjakefionnacake 5d ago
??? i mean he already had a girlfriend, it's not like he wouldn't have been doing that already lol
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u/GoIntoTheHollow 5d ago edited 5d ago
Andrew Garfield is just out there crossing off men on his hallpass list. He already smooched Stephen Colbert and Ryan Reynolds.
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u/SBailey75 5d ago
I bet he did
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u/hotfezz81 5d ago
Be serious: do you think that pitch doesn't make a shitload of money?
Think of all the
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u/Owy2001 5d ago edited 5d ago
No, absolutely not. That would crash and burn so hard. Especially given how important the Chinese market has become (and they would probably refuse to even show it if it couldn't be censored out).
People would literally have rioted in the streets. You're wildly overestimating how open to change/progressivism the super hero community is. It would be awesome if something like this could happen, but Spider-Man is not the property they take risks with.
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u/FaxCelestis 5d ago
Yeah. I literally saw a meme yesterday of three pictures of Spider-Man casts (Macguire, Garfield, and Holland) used as supporting evidence of the great replacement theory.
Which, I want to be insurmountably clear, is bullshit of the highest order, but also evidence that superhero dorks are not progressive.
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u/Ammar-The-Star 5d ago
The Middle East loves Spider-Man as well, don’t think that would work out too well lol
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u/finnjakefionnacake 5d ago
i don't know about riots. particularly, however, i do think they would need to use one of the queer spider-men from the comments instead of the one they've already brought to the MCU.
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u/IDKWhyIamInYupi 1d ago
People on TikTok are promoting a mutant genocide unironically because the X-Men are apparently going to fight Raimiverse Spiderman in the next Avengers
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u/Korumry 5d ago
Let him cook
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u/Books_and_Cleverness 5d ago
My only gripe with this kinda thing is it seems like a lot of people are trying to do something more creative and original, but forced to connect it to existing IP.
It’s not their fault (the problem is the audience) but I’d love for this kinda thing to just be a totally different story.
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u/finnjakefionnacake 5d ago edited 5d ago
yeah people say that but the problem is characters like spider-man already have huge name recognition. it'd be cool if, like, marvel ever wanted to give the theatrical spotlight to a gay/bi hero but we're 18 years into the MCU and like 40 films and clearly that hasn't been on the list for them, while they've spent time building up these other heroes. so i guess some actors are like, "well, if you ain't gonna do it, how about i propose this instead."
honestly there are variants of all these superheroes in the comics that are men, women, black, white, gay, straight, etc etc. so there'd probably even be a basis for it.
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u/Books_and_Cleverness 5d ago
Yeah I don’t blame studios or artists, they are under tremendous marketing constraints.
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u/mmahowald 5d ago
The dude just wanted to smooch Michael b Jordan. You know… like all us straight dudes.
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u/50missioncap 5d ago
To quote Norm MacDonald, "You know what a good name for it would be? Box Office Poison."
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u/cat_selling_souls 5d ago
Wait, wait, wait... wait. Does this confirm a Spideytorch romance? Michael B. Jordan also played Johnny Storm. Granted, he also played Kilmonger but that's neither here or there.
The Spideytorch could've existed if Andrew had his way!
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u/Saiing 5d ago
To be fair, I consider myself a pretty average straight male and even I can see the appeal. MBJ is one fine looking man!
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u/CarlySimonSays 5d ago
I just remembered the story about a young teen girl who was so very overwhelmed by MBJ's appearance on the big screen, that she broke her retainer!
So great! It's like when Rudolph Valentino in the 1920s purportedly made some girls faint, haha.
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u/Buy_Sell_Collect 5d ago
So… that would have bombed harder than not-so-“Supergirl”
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u/Qsnaps74656 5d ago
You literally have no idea what the plot is, who the director is, what the framing of the film is... Your only information is "two a list stars share a queer romance" and you're crying and gnashing your teeth.
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u/Buy_Sell_Collect 5d ago
The only one here crying and gnashing their teeth is… you. And it’s comical because you’re crying about a hypothetical movie that will never be made.
Why won’t it be made? Refer to my original comment… it won’t be made because it would have been a financial disaster. Cry as you might, the majority of the population doesn’t want this, and certainly wouldn’t pay money to see it.
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u/whichwitch9 5d ago
You underestimate how many women and how much of the lgbtq+ community would be flocking to see an Andrew Garfield/ Michael B Jordan romance
Heated Rivalry's success should be a clue there.
Straight men would just never stop complaining about it
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u/Buy_Sell_Collect 5d ago
No, I don’t. The majority of women would not pay money to see MBJ in a gay role, and you overestimate the size of the lgbtq+ community… which would not come close to recouping the ~$400M production and marketing costs for a Spider-Man movie.
Add to that the # of fans that they would lose and it’s easy to see that this will never happen. Disney may have been dumb enough to do that on their own, but thankfully Sony Pictures owns the film rights 😁
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u/cunningstunt6899 5d ago
Must be why Brokeback Mountain earned 200 million two decades ago
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u/Buy_Sell_Collect 5d ago
I would try to explain gross versus net profit to you, but you wouldn’t understand. Good for you though, you found a 20+ year old movie to reference for your cause… congratulations?
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u/cunningstunt6899 5d ago
I would try to explain how inflation works and how 200 million 20 years ago is worth a lot more today.
I would also try to explain how prestige films typically make less money than blockbusters.
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u/Buy_Sell_Collect 5d ago
Again, you fail to grasp the importance of gross versus net profit. Inflation doesn’t hide the fact that after marketing costs, Brokeback barely made a profit, if any at all. It was an early push for “the message”, and was/is heavily acclaimed by critics… awards, top this and that lists, and so on. But to even entertain the idea that they can force “the message” using a main character from the MCU, and be profitable while not losing a massive % of the MCU fanbase, is laughable.
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u/pingo5 5d ago
what are you talking about barely made a profit? Brokeback's budget was like 14 million. it was mostly profit
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u/Buy_Sell_Collect 5d ago
Yet another that doesn’t understand marketing costs, and gross versus net profits… thanks for the laugh!
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u/cunningstunt6899 5d ago
What exactly is "the message" that you seemed to be so vehemently opposed to? That there is nothing wrong with being gay?
I remember when Marvel made this "woke" movie called Black Panther. That was such a disaster at the box office, right?
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u/Buy_Sell_Collect 5d ago
There is nothing wrong with being gay, but Black Panther wasn’t gay… womp womp.
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u/cunningstunt6899 5d ago
Why are you getting your panties in a twist then sweetie?
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u/Either-Lock2454 4d ago
I can see Andrew Garfield trying to do this thinking he's elevating the character and I can see people going, "Oh wow this is so enlightening. How wonderful of him."
As someone who isn't white, I see this as a white actor trying to put a successful POC in a "limited position". Think of that whole "wear the dress" thing. When Star Trek Beyond came out they made a fuss about having an LGBTQ character and then dumped it on the Asian character by saying the real life actor who played him was gay...as if that was a thing.
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u/Robofetus-5000 5d ago
"Andrew stop pitching movies where you make out with Michael B Jordan" -his agent