r/okbuddycinephile 9h ago

A creative decision you can't wait people to be completely chill and normal about?

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u/Quillbolt_h 7h ago

Tbh there's no easy answer to this.

Make him a man out of time like Captain America and suddenly his worldview loses a lot of impact just because the world that informed those views no longer exists.

Make him immortal and suddenly the dynamic he has with Xavier changes. They no longer are two men of the same generation of mutants with radically different ideas on how to help their people.

Change his backstory to a more recent event and it kinda borders on erasure at a time when I think- for multiple reasons, it's more important to remember the utter inhumanity of the holocaust and what it represents than ever.

Change his backstory to a fictionalised event and it kinda sanitises him, makes him less real.

The last one is probably what they'll do. It arguably could be the right choice. Still not great though.

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u/Microwave_Warrior 6h ago

They literally have people coming from other universes and long lived superheroes. They could also just not address the time issue.

They are writing about superheroes. It is very easy to write whatever they want. They just don’t want to have the Holocaust in their sanitized MCU.

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u/Lins105 4h ago

People would complain about the age gap between then 1000% or say it wouldn't make any sense or that they're over the multiverse "nonsense".

I don't think it's that cut and dry

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u/Dry-Shower9037 4h ago

People will complain about...

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u/Armlessbastard 2h ago

Isn't this movie about the collision of muliverses'? I assume the people who are over it aren't going to watch anyway - no matter what they do with magneto.

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u/Lins105 2h ago

They're talking about Magnetooving forward in the OP I would assume

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u/Quillbolt_h 6h ago

I explained why making him immortal has one problem. You could make both him and Charles Immortal, that actually might be a workable solution. But it looks like the story they are wanting to tell is about a young and scrappy group of outcasts caught in the gears of a changing society, and idk if two fossils from WW2 cleanly fit into that concept. Definitely ways they could make it work, but only by shaping the story to fit this limitation, and depending on the script they might not be willing to do that.

Alternate dimensions would be the same problem. Maybe even worse- they want to change to world, but they fucked off from their old one? No, I'm not personal a fan of that at all.

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u/MazrimReddit 1h ago

this alt universe is 100 years behind, done

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u/Jemima_puddledook678 1h ago

This isn’t an alternate universe though, this is set in the main MCU. 

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u/KingMario05 3m ago

And that should tell you everything you need to know about the MCU's artistic integrity.

There isn't one.

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u/Tylor_with_an_o 3h ago

It'll only kick the can down the road for another couple of decades, but I see no reason to not have the x gene blanketly slow the aging process. Make the mutants even more "genetically superior." Like any other genetic expression, it can affect individuals differently. Some are babies for a decade, while others hit 40 and suddenly their aging is reduced to a crawl. Keeps the Holocaust origin and keeps Magneto and Charles as contemporaries. Plus, with de-aging tech, you can justify keeping actors in place a bit longer.

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u/RecycledEternity 4h ago

Change his backstory to a fictionalised event and it kinda sanitises him, makes him less real.

The last one is probably what they'll do. It arguably could be the right choice. Still not great though.

I don't see why not. If Spider-Noir can come from a 1950s universe, why can't Magneto from a universe that is chronologically behind ours by about eighty years?

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u/Jemima_puddledook678 1h ago

Because he’s going to come from the same universe as the rest of the X-men, and that’s the MCU?

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u/Living_Murphys_Law 3h ago

True, the Fantastic Four are doing that already. I guess the main issue is that it would be nice to have a slightly more grounded story for the X-Men, not fully Fox franchise levels but like how Brand New Day didn't feature all the multiverse insanity that the MCU is into right now for some reason

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u/Extreme_Slip6818 2h ago

You're an amazing woman 😅

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u/dolla-dolla-billyall 1h ago

GTFO here with your rational and unemotional takes?

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u/Instant_Digital_Love 6h ago

I mean, there are plenty of historical events they could draw from.

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u/TheTelekinetic 2h ago

Just have his mutation slow his aging.

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u/Quillbolt_h 2h ago

Make him immortal and suddenly the dynamic he has with Xavier changes. They no longer are two men of the same generation of mutants with radically different ideas on how to help their people.

Same thing

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u/falcrist2 2h ago

Tbh there's no easy answer to this.

You could make new characters with new origin stories.

But we don't do new IPs anymore.

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u/Jemima_puddledook678 1h ago

It’s a movie adaptation of Marvel comics, why would you expect them to do something new here?

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u/falcrist2 43m ago

One upon a time Marvel and D.C. created characters.

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u/Jemima_puddledook678 37m ago

Yes, in the comics. These are an adaptation of the comics. Nobody wants them to create new characters, we want them to adapt the comics.