Why doesn't anyone use Qwen 3.8 Flash even though it performs great within a $30 budget?

[u/No-Budget-3869]

[u/Christosconst]

I keep seeing the official benchmarks but 0731 has been the reliable workhorse for me so far. I plan on running a bunch of side by side tests this week to figure out if its truly better

[u/No-Budget-3869 → u/Christosconst]

Qwen 3.8 flash has much higher benchmark than deepseek 0731

[u/Christosconst → u/No-Budget-3869]

That's what I'm saying, I keep seeing Qwen3.8 top 0731 on paper, but still use 0731 because of how reliable it's been

[u/Axiescholar3ph]

it's not really that good. it's way too censored for my use case. too much reward hacking and blabbering

[u/No-Budget-3869 → u/Axiescholar3ph]

It can be a useful sub-agent

[u/moracola]

Because there is GLM-5.3-Flash, it scores better on benchmark with better value-for-money pricing. But at some debugging situations, I noticed that Qwen-3.8-Flash is doing better than GLM in my use case.

[u/richtopia → u/moracola]

Do you like GLM-5.3-Flash? I tried using it and while the responses were healthy, whatever provider OpenCode Go is using felt super slow and I switched back to Deep Seek Flash after maybe 2 or 3 prompts.

[u/moracola → u/richtopia]

My experience with GLM is that Qwen-3.8-Flash managed to solve the issue on my use-case where GLM-5.3-Flash fails. I think my opinion is premature but, given the option I have, I trust Qwen more.

[u/m2wm2wm2w]

"Endpoint unavailable" is the real answer

[u/migsperez]

I'm thinking about it

[u/Ancient_Dress_3687]

I used it over the weekend and was quite impressed.

It responded really well to my workflow and applications. Impressed with th outputs, speed, and efficiency on tokens and cache.

I got old reliable DS V4 flash to review some of its work and found no real gaps. So considering my prime time working is DS4 on-peak, might use it a bit more.

[u/No-Budget-3869 → u/Ancient_Dress_3687]

It is awesome for me but it is slow and a lot of failed requests, I connected Opencode to inferx to use glm 5.3 flash and it is way more faster

[u/Ancient_Dress_3687 → u/No-Budget-3869]

Ahh I see, I was using it in the VScode Agent window via extension. Seemed alright.

[u/Stunning_Pair_3027]

Looking at charts and judging a model is like looking at a menu and rating the food based on pictures. I tested the chinese models and they are kinda crap. I had to use gpt and spark to fix my code. Deepseek changed a portion of the code i din't tell him to and glm flash overthinks alot and after a while it breaks down.

[u/kamwee]

Money

[u/0mamii]

depending on what???

[u/Plastic_Love3352]

Be careful, it might rm -rf something.

[u/anramon]

I use it for answering general questions, for dedicated roles there are better models.

[u/GTHell]

$30 is like a blink with opencode. You need it to be like Muse spark contrib