My favorite part of the show are the flashbacks or backstories. It’s such a great detail rather than just having it drawn out in current day dialogue.
Carol and barbs is my favorite it’s just so dark.
I love Lollys too we don’t often see schizophrenia played out in tv. Pousseys always brought the lgbtq feels..honestly loved most of them except Linda’s. I would have loved a Chang backstory I don’t believe we got one

So I was thinking how the cast gets cut down and how unfortunately it did have to be cut down as not every character would fit in max but I think it’s so sad we only see the Ohio prison in the final episode for like 8 minutes especially considering that’s we’re half the cast is I feel it would’ve been so cool to maybe have a spin off in the Ohio prison and have that during the events of litchfield max or at least gotten some scenes throughout the final two seasons about it thoughts ?

So after season 5 they cut down on the cast and we all know not just by a couple but by like half of it so I’m wondering what do y’all think of it like wether it was good or lazy so they wouldn’t have to handle as much and what characters you wish could’ve stayed in

rewatching OITNB and i was wondering what’s everyone’s favorite character and why and did you have a favorite character during the beginning and not end up liking.. i love oitnb and everytime i rewatch i just have a new favorite character every time

I liked the show because it tried to tell us what happens to women once they are in the system. Why were they there in the 1st place. Tricia, Poussey, Taystee, Doggett, Red, Lorna, Diaz, Sister Ingalls. They exist as we speak, every day locked up.

Sometimes it's about your luck. Oftentimes it's different systems of oppression pinning you down.

found that awful CEO Jack Pearson in Breaking Bad. surprised it took me this long to notice as i’ve watched both shows religiously and on repeat for years haha

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Piper/Alex relationship
Piper/Pennsatucky feud
Daya/Bennett relationship and pregnancy
Red/Pornstache conflict
Tricia’s addiction/death
Piper/Larry relationship
Taystee’s release/return
Sophia’s hormones/family
Miss Claudette’s appeal/Baptiste
Pennsatucky’s religious fanaticism
Red’s prison family

this is not multiple choice, these are just examples! so don’t hesitate to list something outside these!!!!

Daya knew how horrible her moms BF is and still was like.....lots of kids, crapy adult and grug dealer..yeah you will raise my kid. And then panick when he end up in prison and her kid in foster care and after that she still put her in Pornstarch care. Like she could have done that at the beginning, also Aleida got out and not once she went to visit her grandaughter or talked about her. Also Daya bringing her younger sis to bring drugs into prison, come on, Aleida had every right to be mad, but like she still helped originally Daya soo she still had drugs around the kids.

Its just lot of the stuff they did prove they cant and wont get better, even if they end up out again it will be a short time before they will be back in prison. Person who end up best after prison is Sofia, but also she had support system and good set of skills.

Its just seem that Dayas younger siblings will maybe also end up in prison at some point, only kid that got out is her daughter. Also Pornstarch had like the best ending from the first COs, he had daughter and seem happy in the last ep.

Aleida and Daya really felt like they didnt used a single braincell for most if not all the series. Also Aleida stoping Daya from getting abortion was horrible decision cause like who will take care of the kid, sure not you granny.

First time watching beyond season 3. I actually enjoyed the riot season, it was silly and managed to balance fun and seriousness, though there were some big flip flops in people’s actions and some flimsy reasons for doing things, but whatever. Season 6 though…. what are these characters? Daddy? Badison? Carol and Barbara? How come Red was so deferential to Carol despite just getting there and talking to almost no one?

I just finished the show and im super sad bc that was my fav show for months uh yeah random post but idk i rlly liked this show

Now that I am rewatching orange there are so many things I am catching on. Alsoo the way Daya’s character ends up will always hurt me she had the most beautiful soul

give me your character hot takes and unpopular opinions!!!

i’m on season 6 atm but u know a lot of spoilers from the rest of the show. i’m curious, who do you guys think is the best guard and why?

I'm watching S6 and cannot get used to Alex and her messed up pencil brows that are way to thin, dark, and the shape doesn't even make sense. Was it always that bad or is it just this season?

A few days ago Piper's page got vandalized and now they did the same thing with a poor baby. Honestly some sections are pretty funny.

A lot of people weren't a fan of the whole max plot line but if you're gonna give us two old white ladies with heavy arrested development running max then you better give us the whole story. They were two very underwritten characters, but they were just so interesting to me, I didn't care about Daddy, Badison or any of the new characters besides them.

I just have so many questions that will forever be left unanswered. Like how did these two girls get caught? Did one of them snitch on eachother?

How did their parents react to them murdering Debbie and finding out they figuratively lost all 3 of their daughters?

How did two mentally ill suburban teenagers manage to become the big bosses of max?

What was Carol's life in highschool like, did she actually have friends, was she bullied, etc?

How did they react to getting 25 years in prison and in court?

Did Carol and Barb get any action is prison at all? Like they were legit in there for life that must have been depressing as hell

Did their mother really only visit Barb in prison or was she lying to get under Carol's skin? And if so why did she only visit Barb? Because older Carol was still sulking about it to Red. How many times did Carol go to the SHU?

Ugh I have so many questions, but what I really don't understand is why so much screen time and a full backstory was given to Badison of all people. While some people don't like Carol and Barb understandably, seeing young Carol (she was so hot let's be fr) and young Barb getting caught would be a lot more satisfying and interesting than Badison being annoying.

I don't think any character needs or has a redemption arc because every single character on here is a representation of real people, no perfect person or victim. All of them have really positive moments and really negative ones. Some you can forgive and others you can't.

For example, Maria. Shes the one that stops the physical fight with Crazy Eyes and Kuckudio (idfk her name lol) but she also led the riot to be as outrageous as she was.

I hate Boo. Like I could never ever ever see her positively.

What are some characters who you just will never look at in a positive light even though they have done mostly positive things?

I’ll go first

Healy - “and if you think chickens can fly, then we better go to Wikipedia right away”

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S1E1 — “I Wasn’t Ready”
Piper arrives at Litchfield and immediately struggles to adjust to prison life, accidentally insulting Red’s cooking and getting herself starved out. She discovers that Alex—the former girlfriend whose drug operation led to Piper’s conviction—is incarcerated there too.
S1E2 — “Tit Punch”
Piper desperately tries to get back into Red’s good graces and eventually succeeds by making her medicated lotion for her back. Meanwhile, we learn more about Red’s pre-prison life and how she became involved with the Russian mob.
S1E3 — “Lesbian Request Denied”
Piper is pursued by Crazy Eyes, whose increasingly intense crush culminates in the infamous peeing-outside-Piper’s-bunk incident. Sophia struggles with reduced access to her hormones, and flashbacks reveal her transition, crime, and the strain both placed on her family.
S1E4 — “Imaginary Enemies”
Piper accidentally takes a screwdriver from the electrical shop, setting off a prison-wide search when it can’t be accounted for. Miss Claudette becomes the focus of the flashbacks, revealing both the circumstances surrounding her crime and the person she still loves outside.
S1E5 — “The Chickening”
A legendary chicken supposedly carrying drugs appears around Litchfield, sending Red and several inmates on an increasingly ridiculous hunt. Piper becomes obsessed with catching it while her relationship with Alex continues getting harder to ignore.
S1E6 — “WAC Pack”
The inmates hold elections for the Women’s Advisory Council, although Healy has already largely decided who will represent each group. Taystee campaigns enthusiastically, while Piper and Alex continue getting closer despite Piper’s engagement to Larry.
S1E7 — “Blood Donut”
Janae is sent to SHU, prompting Watson and Piper to devise a way of getting Luschek in trouble and forcing him to help bring her back. Watson’s flashbacks show her talent as a runner and some of the choices that eventually contributed to her incarceration.
S1E8 — “Moscow Mule”
A flu outbreak hits Litchfield while Red’s smuggling operation is threatened by Pornstache, leading her to sabotage his drugs and exposing Tricia’s addiction. Meanwhile, Larry’s NPR interview about Piper’s imprisonment creates new problems when the inmates hear how they’ve been portrayed.
S1E9 — “Fucksgiving”
Piper is sent to SHU after Healy sees her dancing with Alex, leaving her terrified by the isolation until Caputo gets her released. After returning, Piper and Alex get intimate, while Larry listens to advice that makes him increasingly suspicious about their relationship.
S1E10 — “Bora Bora Bora”
Pennsatucky becomes increasingly convinced that she has divine healing powers while the Scared Straight program brings teenage girls into Litchfield. Tricia tries to get clean, but Pornstache gives her drugs and then stages her resulting overdose to look like an unaliving.
S1E11 — “Tall Men with Feelings”
The prison deals with the aftermath of Tricia’s death while Pornstache’s behavior finally begins catching up with him. Larry’s radio interview exposes private details about several inmates, while Piper’s relationships with both Larry and Alex continue unraveling.
S1E12 — “Fool Me Once”
Pennsatucky’s religious obsession and hostility toward Piper escalate toward outright violence, while Piper finds herself increasingly isolated after losing both Alex and Larry. Daya’s pregnancy scheme also advances as the women work to make Pornstache appear to be the father.
S1E13 — “Can’t Fix Crazy”
Litchfield prepares its Christmas pageant while several season-long storylines reach their breaking points, including Red losing control of the kitchen and Daya’s pregnancy situation. Pennsatucky attacks Piper outside, and after Healy deliberately walks away, Piper brutally beats her as the season ends on a cliffhanger.

I'm rewatching OITNB for the first time since it originally aired. I stopped somewhere around season 4 or 5, and holy shit am I seeing a lot of this differently at 40 than I did at 27.

One of the biggest differences is how I see the COs. After my first watch, I got heavily involved in public sector union work and met and organized alongside a bunch of actual correctional officers (in Canada where all of our prisons are public... for now).

That absolutely did NOT convince me that COs are secretly the good guys. If anything, I came away more convinced of how profoundly fucked up our prison system is, and I definitely met people who should never have had that kind of power over other human beings.

But I also met a lot of completely ordinary, decent people trying to provide for their families while working a job that exposed them to an incredible amount of stress, violence and vicarious trauma. I saw what that did to people.

Meanwhile, I spent my own career in a completely different part of the public service, in a job that was supposedly about helping vulnerable people. In reality, I was an agent of a dystopian bureaucracy that often made actually helping anyone incredibly difficult. It's obviously not the same as being a CO, but I understand now what spending years working inside a fucked up institution can do to you. And how the people you're supposed to help can somehow become the people you're irritated at for needing help.

Then tonight I got to Susan Fischer's introduction and... fuck.

When I started my career, I was Fischer. I cared SO MUCH. I thought if I treated people like human beings, advocated where I could and did my job well, I could make a shitty system a little less shitty for the people stuck dealing with it.

I've been on sick leave for a bit now, and some part of me has still been thinking "well, maybe I could eventually go back."

But fuck... I'm Healy now. Not the racism, sexism or homophobia, I promise. But the bitterness? Cynicism? Compassion fatigue? Being irritated by people for needing the help that it is literally your job to provide? Yeah.

I can't go back.

Some part of me keeps thinking quitting will mean I failed. But watching this tonight I'm suddenly thinking "are you crazy? Going back would be the failure!"

It would be the wrong thing for me, but also the wrong thing for the people I'm supposed to help. If I'm so burned out that I'm unintentionally hurting people instead of helping them, I need to remember why I cared so fucking much in the first place and get out.

The plan was just to rewatch a fun Netflix show from my 20s. Now Susan fucking Fischer just convinced me to quit my career.

Anyway. That's my Saturday night. How's everyone else doing?

I’ve watched this show a couple of times a few years back and I’m revisiting again. I’m on season 6, just past the riot where Piper and Badison are beefing with each other. Season 6 made it painfully obvious that despite all the research Piper did before she went to prison, she’s still unprepared asf. She’s constantly getting herself into these situations where people want her head, and then she plays this puppy dog victim act where she pretends she doesn’t know why everyone is attacking her.

The badison thing could’ve been avoided too. Piper trying to play peacemaker in PRISON with CRIMINALS is laughable. Like girl, just her be the leader for the game! It’s not even serious. Then piper is worried sick that badison is gonna set her up or cause her harm. Ummmmm. Duh?

And it’s crazy cause pipers sentence isn’t even long, but she gets herself into so much drama and danger because she thinks she’s an og and knows more than everyone else. Even tho she’s the main character, she seems to irritate me the most and my fav character is actually Mendoza 🙈

I mean like course the ones you dislike but also the ones you think were handled the least as well and could’ve been much better just curious as to your guys thoughts

Rewatching OITNB - when everyone was being grilled about Piscatella’s murder, why didn’t Red or Taystee or anyone else who were in the pool talk about the video they posted of Piscatella torturing them? It sounded like the video was getting a lot of attention (there’s a part in S5 where they mention the video getting a million views).

I guess regardless, I’m sure it wouldn’t have helped with making them look innocent for his murder. But that was Cindy’s fault for not bringing up that information. Just food for thought.

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