r/politics • u/soalone34 • 9d ago
No Paywall Democrats incredulous over Hakeem Jeffries and Jared Kushner meeting
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u/ImDonaldDunn 9d ago
As people should be. This isn’t just a regular GOP administration, it is incredibly corrupt and doing all sorts of illegal shit.
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u/Manticore416 9d ago
Kushner isnt even a part of the administration officially, so it's even grosser than that.
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u/Dolores___Haze 9d ago
And in fact failed his background checks for the WH 10 years ago
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u/FIFofNovember 9d ago
They gotta have dirt on the Dems, its the only logical explanation.
They can't be this fucking spineless and stupid, if they are we can all kiss Democracy goodbye.
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u/pinegreenscent 9d ago
Hakeem Jeffries is probably more open to investing in Jared's many business opportunities thanks to his non-position in the white house
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u/Gamer402 8d ago
Kushner and AIPACshakur probably discussed their common love for "the only democracy in the Middle East".
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u/TheCommieDuck 9d ago
"there must be some conspiratorial reason" is in fact not a logical explanation.
the logical explanation is that the democratic party simply does not give a single fuck about you or your issues.
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u/princeofid 8d ago
94% of house candidates, and 82% of senate candidates who outspent their opponent, won. It's that fucking simple.
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u/Auzzie_almighty 8d ago
There’s a pretty good argument that is the conspiracy.
A conspiracy is any shady plan by a group of people to do something harmful, illegal, or corrupt. It doesn’t have to be insane to be a conspiracy
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u/doppido 8d ago
Yeah the corporatized Dems would rather maga or the conservatives win rather than DSA. Losing their money scares them more than anything else
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u/Murrabbit 8d ago
Republicans winning means Democrats are out of power in the government, but progressives winning mean that Democrats are out of power in their own party - that's the bit that really scares party leadership.
Whether they win or lose elections to Republicans leadership is still in charge of the party, not so if people start coming in who think that the party should be about more than making its own leadership feel cozy.
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u/Icc0ld 9d ago
This. Have you seen the way they talked after losing the election? "I won my election". "Well it's their Government, what do you want us to do?". They hate us. They hate that they have to win elections. They hate that their job goes up for grabs every year and they wish it was a cushy corpo job they could sit and do absolutely nothing
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u/NYArtFan1 8d ago
Yep. Just look at how Diana DeGette melted the fuck down after being beaten by a progressive in her Denver primary. She's had a seat-warmer job in the House since the 90s and thought she could just ride that to retirement. She even said after the election that "it wasn't how she saw leaving". Enough of the do-nothings.
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u/djokov 9d ago
"Conspiracy theorists get the facts wrong but often get the feelings right—the feeling of living in a world with Shadow Lands, the feeling that every human misery is someone else’s profit, the feeling of being exhausted by predation and extraction, the feeling that important truths are being hidden. The word for the system driving those feelings starts with c, but if no one ever taught you how capitalism works, and instead told you it was all about freedom and sunshine and Big Macs and playing by the rules to get the life you deserve, then it’s easy to see how you might confuse it with another c-word: conspiracy."
—Naomi Klein
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u/zeez1011 8d ago
Yep. They may push for some policies that help people but they're there to secure the bag as much as the Republicans are.
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u/ChristineBardownski 8d ago
I don’t think you really need to assume there’s any kind of complicated, shadowy conspiracy afoot.
“People who occupy the same social class share a common interest in maintaining the privileges and immunities enjoyed by members of that class” is a perfectly complete and rational explanation for this phenomenon, among many others.
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u/theCaitiff Pennsylvania 8d ago
The problem with your analysis is that it requires other people to understand class, something americans are heavily propagandized not to do.
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u/Dineology 9d ago
It’s not dirt, they’re just owned by the same wealthy interests. Walk St. doesn’t give a damn if you’re wearing a blue tie or a red one, so long as you cash the checks and do as you’re told and Jeffries has always been the good little toady that does just that.
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u/-Ok-Perception- 8d ago
Indeed they CAN be that spineless and stupid. They'd rather hand the win to Republicans on a silver platter, than embrace any ideas that are truly leftist. In fact, the only time the Democrat moderates are truly fighting is when they have a young Democrat that's **truly** trying to implement progressive ideas.
Moderate Democrats are just controlled opposition to Trump, in the way that the Centrists (ran by Papen) "opposed" Hitler before he took complete power.
Moderate Democrats just want to keep that sweet insider trading intel coming, so no one wants to rock the boat too much. They may hold out on a vote and make a couple of strongly worded tiktok videos (I'm looking at you, Schumer); then a couple days later they'll completely capitulate to whatever Republicans are trying to push through.
We need moderate Democrats, like we need a goddamn brain tumor right now. Primary all of them out. They don't represent us.
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u/Yorksikorkulous Ohio 9d ago
Sounds like a regular GOP administration to me
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u/LiveChocolate8819 New York 9d ago
Not to go full Nancy Pelosi "we need a strong and reasonable Republican party" here, but the current GOP is an order of magnitude worse. That's not to say we should go back to the Schumer "reach across the aisle" fetish once Trump is gone though.
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u/we_are_sex_bobomb 9d ago
In the current political climate, Democrats should only be reaching across the aisle to deliver court summons and anything else is collusion with a hostile occupier.
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u/rooftopgoblin Vermont 9d ago
the problem is they still reach across the aisle with trump. There has been plenty of judicial and other nominations that dems vote for and its mind boggling how they can be so bad at being an opposition party
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u/mrgedman 9d ago
Fool me 34 times, won't get fooled again
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u/Every_Photograph2978 9d ago
This is known as rule 34. Google 'rule 34 trump' if you want to learn more
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u/Hungry_Culture 9d ago edited 8d ago
Because the same people that fund Trump and his circle of Epstein enablers also fund a lot of the Democrats. It's a big party and you aren't invited. See Cory Booker being friends with Peter Thiel and a part of his dialog group for example. The DSA candidates are the only viable opposition in this country.
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u/oliversurpless Massachusetts 9d ago
Yep, Trumpers deserve to suffer immensely if only because they/the “creators” of AI slop keep toeing lies like “PeLoSI WaS in ChaRGe Of SeCuRitY!” on Jan 6th with no consequences.
It’s truly exhausting to have to debunk this banality even years down the road…
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u/KTX77 9d ago
Right. If the Democrats are able to take back control they need to put their boot on the neck of this whole MAGA movement. Investigate and then prosecute any of them that have broken the law.
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u/naskan27 9d ago
They won’t actually do anything to MAGA. The democratic leadership makes too much money from donors to do anything to those they supported.
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u/CHBCKyle 9d ago
Bush stole an election, killed a million people and displaced 5m people. I think you’re confusing a lack of respectability politics with being more evil. Conservatives have always been fascists.
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u/VariationBusiness603 9d ago
Thank you. Americans far too easily turn a blind eye to minor international policy blunder. Like the violent death of (at minimum) 200 000 civilians in Iraq.
Sometimes I see them do the "oh Bush Jr wasn't that bad" spiel and it makes my blood boil. And makes it quite clear why something like Trump could happen.
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u/CHBCKyle 9d ago
There really aren’t words to describe how evil that man is. He’s going to spend his time hanging out with Hitler and Kissinger in the depths of hell. There’s absolutely nothing redeemable about him and it makes me angry too, seeing his reputation be laundered by fascist sympathizers pretending to be liberals.
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u/Other_World New York 8d ago
I cannot stand how Bush II has been rehabilitated because of Trump. Trump is not implementing any policy old school Conservatives don't love. Bush is a war criminal.
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u/N7Shep1701D Oregon 9d ago
but the current GOP is an order of magnitude worse.
The GOP was always destined to become this.
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u/Akimbo_Zap_Guns Kentucky 9d ago
Ideally what we need is these centrist dems to split off and make a new Conservative Party and the Republican Party just ceases to exist and let the progressives actually form a true left party.
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u/marketingguy420 9d ago
Correct. A sane political system would have Democrats be the rightwing party they are and an actual left wing party like the DSA be the left in this country.
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u/Zomunieo 9d ago
They have not changed in about 100 years;
As for the Republicans -- how can one regard seriously a frightened, greedy, nostalgic huddle of tradesmen and lucky idlers who shut their eyes to history and science, steel their emotions against decent human sympathy, cling to sordid and provincial ideals exalting sheer acquisitiveness and condoning artificial hardship for the non-materially-shrewd, dwell smugly and sentimentally in a distorted dream-cosmos of outmoded phrases and principles and attitudes based on the bygone agricultural-handicraft world, and revel in (consciously or unconsciously) mendacious assumptions (such as the notion that real liberty is synonymous with the single detail of unrestricted economic license or that a rational planning of resource-distribution would contravene some vague and mystical 'American heritage'...) utterly contrary to fact and without the slightest foundation in human experience? Intellectually, the Republican idea deserves the tolerance and respect one gives to the dead.
― H.P. Lovecraft, 1936
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u/Laufeyson9 9d ago
Famous racist, Lovecraft said this? And wasn't this before the big party switch in the 60's?
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u/Zomunieo 9d ago
Yes, and yes.
There hasn’t been a decent Republican since Theodore Roosevelt, and he left them.
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u/TheDonbot 9d ago
It's not like the parties switched the entirety of their platforms in the 60's. The Democrats started pushing civil rights so a bunch of racists left the party, then the Republican party started pandering to those racists.
Even before the southern switch the democrats were still the party of Franklin D Roosevelt, a famously progressive president.
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u/N7Shep1701D Oregon 9d ago
And modern Republicans pretend that switch never happened and the D party is still the "racist" party. I've had it said to me on more than one occasion.
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u/yikesssss_sssssss 9d ago
And the economic deregulation and tariffs (sound familiar?) of Republican administrations in the 1920s helped cause the Great Depression
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u/Cabana_bananza 9d ago
The history of the Democratic-Republican Party and their schism is a fascinating one. The Republican party had strange bedfellows in the progressive wing led by Lincoln and the deeply conservative Whigs who settled right into the same machine. Despite their conservative values there was a significant amount of pro-abolition Whigs who also hated Jackson (probably the most significant reason for the schism).
In fact the GOP is the second Republican party after the shortlived NRP that would establish the Whig party.
The Whigs who were conservative and pro-Slavery joined political machines of the Southern states, which were largely Democrat.
But both parties of that era were a hodgepodge of conservative and progressives, largely falling into line around who liked Jackson and which way their local political groups broke during the "divorce".
Its why you saw a lion of the abolition movement like Cassius Clay have membership with both parties over his lifetime.
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u/boston_homo 9d ago
The fact that Republicans have ripped the mask off without any attempt to obfuscate the outrageously fascist, illegal and unconstitutional shit they’re doing certainly seems to be an escalation of historically shitty R behavior.
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u/raspymorten 9d ago
It really says something when democrats just can't find common ground with Zohran Mamdani, but are begging and pleading to reach across the aisle from the team who thinks they're all babyeating pedophilic satanists that should be hanged, drawn and quartered.
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u/IdkAbtAllThat America 9d ago
And kushner doesn't even have an official position in the government. Why is Jeffries making deals with a private citizen about government matters? He's normalizing the corruption. You could actually make the argument he's participating in it.
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u/7figureipo California 9d ago
It's not just corrupt and illegal. They're engaged in a constitutional coup--a literal overthrow of the Constitutional government. We don't have a legitimate federal government right now. A politician working with them is exactly like one from the North working with the South during the civil war era.
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u/Slade_Riprock 9d ago
Democrats always gonna do the reach across the aisle and put our differences aside shit...because the DNC is just as bought and paid for as the RNC.
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u/bluelily216 9d ago
It's becoming more and more obvious that Citizens United is the worst thing to happen to this country. People no longer become politicians to help the country, they become politicians to become millionaires. It's arguably one of the easiest paths to wealth.
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u/taintsauce 9d ago
I was just a shithead high-school student with some wonky-ass ideas when that decision was handed down, and even then I remember thinking "Well, this seems incredibly reckless".
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u/sphinctersayswhat9 9d ago
Yep same here
What a disaster it has been
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u/daehoidar 8d ago
It's a disaster for regular people and for the country, however it's going exactly to plan for the people that pushed it through. They're getting everything they want in exactly the way they wanted it.
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u/RocketTater 9d ago
I was a pretty solid student taking AP GOV my senior year before going to a service academy. I also, thought this decision was bonkers.
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u/_Home_Skillet_ 9d ago
Yeah, same here. I remember thinking “maybe somehow this won’t be as obviously terrible as it seems.” Ah, what a naive summer child I was.
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u/glassjar1 Virginia 8d ago
My youngest was in high school when this decision was made--and it angered enough that he wrote a tongue in cheek satire piece pretending to support it for AP English.
Some adults who read it in our very red area, weren't clear on whether it was satire or serious. That baffled me. Since 2016, though...not so much.
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u/Elegant_Magician_372 9d ago
So many people criticized the protestors at that time. I was young but remember hearing how dramatic or radical they were.
Imagine if we believed and thanked and JOINED our fellow protestors in this country before shit got bad?
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u/BillNyeIsCoolio 8d ago
Protestors are always demonized because those in charge spend a lot of money to ensure it
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u/Elegant_Magician_372 8d ago
Totally agree. That or media portrays every protest as incredibly dangerous, so many are fearful. Thankfully, as a young adult I learned and I now happily join the crowd. Hope all of us start to do this. Erica Chenowith’s research says it’s highly likely that if we hit the 3.5% of the population protesting we’d see change 🤞
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u/somekindofdruiddude 9d ago
And it effective changed the policy of "one person one vote" to "n dollars one vote". There is now a price for votes that might look high, but we've proven it's worth paying for billionaires either to protect their wealth, or to steal even more.
Back in Washington's day it was done on a small, local scale, with barrels of whiskey at the poll. Now it's global, and so much more evil.
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u/Unfair_Ring_2746 9d ago
It’s not even that high of a dollar amount. Studies have shown that campaign contributions in the thousands of dollars — not even hundreds of thousands or millions — are enough to swing the likelihood of politicians’ votes by double digit percentages.
It varies by the topic and the politician, of course, but smaller initiatives and lesser-known figures are more susceptible to smaller dollar amounts. The paltry thousands being spent on a litany of bills and people you’ve never heard of set the groundwork for bigger, more controversial bills to be successfully passed by the star representatives.
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u/chrisk9 9d ago
Absolutely. Unfortunately a standard federal law cannot reverse the Citizens United v. FEC ruling. Because the Supreme Court based its 2010 decision on an interpretation of the First Amendment, Congress can only overturn it via a constitutional amendment or by a future Supreme Court reversing itself. Ordinary statutes attempting to limit independent corporate spending are struck down as unconstitutional. So as long as Supreme Court is politicized and owned by corrupt far right, we are all fucked.
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u/oldfashionedguy 9d ago
Never lose hope. Remember when we all thought Roe was a settled issue? CU can be overturned. Probably will be eventually.
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u/YStampede 9d ago
I mean that just further reinforced the previous comment. Roe was overturned by the Supreme Court
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u/mikeyfreshh 9d ago
The problem is that everyone in a position to overturn CU directly benefits from it. We need powerful people to act against their own self interest, which might not be impossible but it certainly feels like it is right now
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u/22Arkantos Georgia 9d ago
We can also change the composition of the Court and have the new Court overturn it.
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u/BagSalt7633 9d ago
No, but we can change what corporations are and reduce their power. SCOTUS based their decision on the idea that corporations are mere groups of people, with all the privileges of those people. But of course they're not just groups of people; they have huge privileges that individuals don't have, including much lower taxes and shareholder immunity.
So if SCOTUS wants to play that game, we could just make corporations mere groups of people. For starters, we should remove the ridiculous legal fiction that is limited liability. If you can make money as a shareholder, then you should be on the hook for any debts. And corporations shouldn't pay a separate corporate tax rate, the shareholders can just pay based on their fractional ownership of the revenue.
Effectively, what I'm arguing is that every corporation becomes a general partnership.
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u/FirstNameIsDistance Pennsylvania 9d ago
It's becoming more and more obvious that Citizens United is the worst thing to happen to this country.
I remember sitting in my Econ class the day after this ruling came down. My professor spent the first 30 minutes of that class laying out exactly how bad this ruling was and how we wouldn't feel the true effects for at least a decade, but stressed how bad it would be.
He was 100% right.
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u/cytherian New Jersey 9d ago edited 8d ago
MTG is a prime example. Her outrage over the Epstein scandal is a smokescreen. She did insider trading and got away with it. Bought a multi-million seaside home in Costa Rica where she's living luxury since her stint in Congress.
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u/Sherm 9d ago
Bought a multi-million seaside home in Costa Rica where she'll go when she leaves Congress.
She's been out of Congress for 9 months now.
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u/roastbeeftacohat 8d ago
her outrage is over hitting the glass ceiling dispite being the most loyal.
she is dumb and faith based enough to have simply never considered that the epstein scandal was real, until she was outside of the glow of trumps love. so that's a posibility.
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u/PrestigiousQuack474 9d ago
Politicians used to leave office with around the same wealth they went in with. They did it for public service, for the common good of the American people. Now it’s just another path to becoming a multi-millionaire. This me-first, winner-take-all mentality we’ve developed in the last 40+ years here is going to destroy this country.
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u/MephistoHamProducts 9d ago
I'm not that incredulous. It's pretty on brand for Jeffries.
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u/BrownSugarBare Canada 9d ago
Yeah dude, he sucks.
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u/Cagnazzo82 9d ago
Bought and paid for controlled opposition.
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u/Bocchi_theGlock 9d ago edited 8d ago
Used to support Medicare for all. Now he doesn't
I wonder why that is
Schumer also said in 2016, for every working class Blue collar Democrat we lose, will gain two centrist conservative Republicans in the suburbs. Which is one of the worst political takes of all time, and fundamentally incorrect from a data and voter turnout point of view
To explain why: the people that don't vote, a third to half of the country, say it's because their vote doesn't matter, the two parties are too similar, and too beholden by corporate interests.
So when Democrats act like Republicans, it validates those complaints, ensures they don't vote, while also hurting turnout among the existing base. It does double duty in fucking us over
They push this stuff because they want to continue to pander & get support from corporations. If Dems embraced working class interests, they would be failing to represent not just their constituents but also party platform.
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u/IamA_Werewolf_AMA 8d ago
That take was imo borne directly from wishful thinking and the action itself was imo taken in response to citizens united, the last death blow to political power for the working class
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u/ImOldGregg_77 Texas 9d ago
He is the absolute worst, like the human equivalent of a wet sneeze
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u/SummerSun75 9d ago
Why spend time outlining and fighting for a coherent strategy that energizes the base and working people? That takes on and punishes the Republikan Party?
When you can go play footsie with Jared Kushner?
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u/Vilnius_Nastavnik New York 9d ago
He’s a member of the political class who acts in his class interest. Any other motivations he claims or appears to have are pure theater.
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u/RadicalRectangle Colorado 9d ago
All it does is acknowledge our institution has been completely corrupted. The minority leader of the house, one of the faces of the Democratic Party, is meeting with the Presidents Son-in-law who isn’t even an official member of the government.
Jeffries is weak.
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u/resin85 9d ago
Yep, and it certainly explains why there's been almost no fight from the Democrats against the corrupt and illegal acts taking place at all levels of the Republican controlled government.
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u/matticusiv California 8d ago
They’re happy to let it happen if they can continue to leech and insider trade along the way
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u/TerminalProtoco1 8d ago
Jeffries is weak.
Jeffries is COMPLICIT. Entirely different (and worse than) being weak.
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u/DatKillerDude 9d ago
He is an AIPAC creature
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u/Coraline1599 9d ago
I think this is what it is about, tbh.
APAIC funded democratic primaries have been losing left and right.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a number of Dems capitulate and become republicans to be able to continue their loyalty to APAIC.
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u/Miss-Tiq 8d ago edited 8d ago
Nah he's pretty strong at his own goals. They're just not aligned with ours.
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u/CNPercera 9d ago
All this does is make Jefferies look complicit and corrupt.
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u/MephistoHamProducts 9d ago
All this does is make Jefferies look complicit and corrupt
"Again". You forgot the "Again"
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u/Then_Journalist_317 9d ago
To be more accurate, you should delete the word "look" from your comment.
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u/Additional-Signal327 9d ago
That’s because Jeffries is complicit and corrupt.
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u/thinkards America 9d ago
Same with Newsom. When they would rather meet with the far right like Bannon and Jared without blinking an eye but have to concern troll over meeting with progressive candidates, they are showing us exactly who they are.
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u/Heisenberg991 9d ago
Kush asking Jeffries to not impeach Trump and the Trump crime family.
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u/Due_Speaker4655 9d ago
That’s probably what it is.
It will be telling if Dems take the house back, Jefferies is speaker again (heaven forbid) and he speaks out against impeachment. He will say “We need to focus on the cost of groceries and gas and not play politics.”
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u/DenaliBurnz 9d ago
The Dems would see a grassroots fundraising and massive polling bump if they got rid of Jeffries and Schumer. Ken Martin should go as well.
These guys have shown themselves unfit for the role.
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u/thinkards America 9d ago edited 9d ago
The first and easiest litmus test for any dem politician is to ask them: Is Israel committing a genocide? If they can't unequivocally call that spade a spade - if they can't even pass that first basic test - then they are already disqualified from standing up on ANY issue.
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u/fcocyclone Iowa 8d ago
While all their fealty to Israel is infuriating, it's equally dumb for that to be the first litmus test for any Democrat when we have such large issues domestically.
Id rather be looking at their views on prosecuting members of this administration for their endless corruption. Any Democrat who wants to talk like we just need to reach across the aisle to fascists who will suddenly have an epiphany needs to go.
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u/theghostmachine 8d ago
It's much easier for them to lie about wanting to prosecute corruption. Their pay days aren't directly tied to supporting it, whereas AIPAC will yoink their money right out of their hands if they turn on them.
Until there's some real reason for them to not lie about how they'd deal with these domestic issues, the genocide question is the best one to ask
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u/NewsShoddy3834 8d ago
You are correct. But we still want to know who’s buttering their toast. This question tells the voter who comes first - and it’s not the voter.
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u/Traderwannabee 9d ago
This is why the Democrats really do not have a favorability rating higher than the Republicans. Stop putting corporate and PAC interests ahead of ours!
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u/FIFofNovember 9d ago
Its because they're listening to their data Analysis not realizing the data they're analyzing is all based off of right wring owned social media companies.
"Our data suggests that we would look more favorable to voters if we worked with Republicans"
Meanwhile that data they get is all from bots, pushing the discussion away from the barely center left, all the way over to the right. So that's the tactic they take.
Good luck America!
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u/RioRancher 9d ago
I have a 100% certainty that Hakeem was selling out democrats
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u/we_are_sex_bobomb 9d ago
He’s the definition of a seat warmer. If he ever does become speaker for the house he will be a spineless sycophant just like that little dweeb Mike Johnson
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u/drobits 9d ago
He’d rather have Trump stay in power forever if it means he can keep that sweet donor and AIPAC money flowing in and accomplish nothing for working people
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u/RealLLCoolJ 9d ago edited 9d ago
Can I ask an honest question please regarding all PACs including AIPAC — does the politician themselves actually see that money like it goes in their pockets or it just goes toward their campaigns and reelection?
Or it’s supposed to go toward reelection, but somehow they use it themselves eg travel expenses where they take their whole family to San Diego and say it was for election purposes?
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u/sniper91 Minnesota 9d ago
Oversight on PAC money is basically nonexistent
Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert showed this over 10 years ago
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u/Senior-Albatross New Mexico 9d ago
Ostensibly? Campaign spending. But a lot is laundered to individuals. Ever wonder why every politician has a book that no one has ever read? Because they can have the campaign buy thousands of copies to give away to be thrown away after fundraisers. And then the politician pockets all that money.
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u/7figureipo California 9d ago
More like representing their interests. There’s a reason they’ve engaged the media with “insurrection” coded language to describe actual progressives’ primary wins.
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u/jkman61494 9d ago
Oh it’s full mask off now. Jill Biden’s former press secretary flat out said he’ll never vote for El Sayed because of 9/11 and how he smelled the rubble…..despite being 60 miles away
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u/LiveChocolate8819 New York 9d ago edited 9d ago
And more importantly, the fact that Abdul is just an ordinary Michigander born in Michigan who happens to be Muslim, and was in 11th grade on 9/11/01.
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u/mojo021 9d ago
What does AES have to do with 9/11?
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u/MephistoHamProducts 9d ago
He's Muslim. Muslims did 9/11. Therefore he's responsible for 9/11, apparently.
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u/BongRipper69xXx 9d ago edited 9d ago
He's representing his donors, not his constituents
edit - I suppose that's literally what you said lol
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u/StoppableHulk 9d ago
Jeffries fucking sucks.
One thing I will never understand is why tens of millions of people wnat to give infinite chances and a neverending diarrhea of benefit-of-the-doubt to someone who routinely demonstrates that he fucking sucks. They will make an endless parade of excuses for him despite the fact he's been a failure for years.
Jeffries has failed to meet the moment for years. He's an incredibly weak leader who continuously capitulates to fascists, represents exclusively corporate interests, and, should Democrats retake the House in November, Jeffries is all but guaranteed to sabotage any efforts to hold Trump accountable because that's been his entire operating strategy thus far.
This person sucks. Stop wondering if they're somehow better in the shadows, stop giving him credit where none is due. This guy is a weak-ass ass-kissing corporate toadie who is exactly the wrong sort of leader the moment requires. Do everything in your power to get him expelled from leadership and let history remember him as a shivering gutless weasel.
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u/zerosixthirty 9d ago
The bigger issue is why the democratic house caucus keeps electing him as their leader. I can somewhat excuse this guy winning elections with limited primary opposition… but why is he a leader of the party?
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u/StoppableHulk 9d ago
Because this is the party. This is the problem. This is why the Democratic caucus is in the state that it's in. Because it wants someone like Jeffries. A craven, calculating, corporate-owned stooge who will keep the status quo on track, who will captiulate to and cooperate with fascists while adding just the thinnest veneer of liberalism to appease the majority of stupefied Democratic voters.
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u/jimlahey420 8d ago
Jeffries doing backflips in interviews to say that they support working Americans but can't commit to Medicare for all or universal healthcare because he's in bed with big pharma, medical insurance, and medical supply companies just like all the other corporate Democrats.
Literally nothing will surprise me about establishment Democrats anytime anyone says they're doing something shady. These fuckers aren't even close to "left wing" anymore, they're fucking Republican-lite.
Bring on the DSA. I hope all these asshole centrist corporate AIPAC "Democrats" get ripped out of elected office as fast as possible.
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u/BirdInFlight301 Louisiana 9d ago
The DNC sucks. I'm in Louisiana and they don't even bother to promote Democrat candidates. They just think the candidate won't win so they don't support them and they're right in a sick kind of way: Democrat candidates won't win if the freaking party doesn't stand behind them.
I'm sick of Hakeem Jeffries. If there's a blue tsunami, we do not need to play nice and make deals. We need to hold EVERY ONE of the Republicans who have enabled Trump accountable for their actions, and we've got to absolutely destroy Trump's ability to continue running through the Constitution like a bull in a china shop.
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u/JPDPROPS 9d ago
Jeffries just ruined his reputation. No matter what happens now— he will be seen as an apparatchik for the most corrupt administration in American history. Resign now Hakeem.
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u/Terrible_turtle_ 9d ago edited 8d ago
Asked about the reported meeting, Jeffries said in a statement: “Throughout this Congress, Republicans have adopted a my-way-or-the-highway approach to governing that has failed the American people. To stop the madness, we have repeatedly made clear that an extremist approach will not work and will be met with forceful opposition.
“The American people want bold change and that’s what House Democrats will deliver. In every conversation that we have with the Trump administration, we will continue to make it explicitly clear that the affordability crisis is not a hoax and nothing short of transformational policy change is acceptable. We are fighting for an affordable America. The question is whether Republicans will join us.”
Again, Dem leadership are playing by the old rules and not stepping up to the reality of fascism. They are still trying to bipartisan it. To be fair, the media demands that Dems play nice with Reps but not the other way around.
eta I also think there is a bit of the hit dog syndrome here, Dems are always hammered to be bipartisan to the point that they seem to have some PTSD about it.
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u/voodoodahl 8d ago edited 8d ago
And we are facing this new reality? We attack our allies more often than we attack fascists. We swear to let the fascist win if our allies are deemed imperfect. Our allies can be deemed imperfect if oligarch owned media and bots repeatedly smear them in a way we want to believe.
You know what democrats are really looking at? The weakest and most easily manipulated electorate in American history and they haven't a clue how to fix us.
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u/GreyBeardEng 9d ago
Both are Hakeem Jeffries and Jared Kushner are members of Dialogue, you know that secretive invite-only group founded by Peter Thiel. You know that guy who owns Palantir, who's helping the US military spy on American citizens and develop AI driven weapons that don't have human interaction. Peter Thiel doesn't even live in America.
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u/imtoowhiteandnerdy 9d ago
The reported meeting comes months ahead of the November midterm elections in which Democrats are favored to retake the US House, a development that would make Jeffries speaker.
Serious question here: If the Democrats take the House majority in the next session of Congress, does Jeffries have to end up as Speaker? It see that the Republicans ousted Kevin McCarthy at one point and replaced him with Mikey, I can't see why it's inevitable we'd end up with Jeffries.
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u/Cultural-Swan-3624 8d ago
He does not. The new congress will vote for the speaker and that individual does not even have to be in a member of the House. They just need majority vote. Technically they could make Barack Obama or Kamala Harris the Speaker of the House just to watch a few select individuals implode.
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u/apricity_4 8d ago
After Kushner met with Netanyahu, Kushner needed to deliver Netanyahu's directives to Jeffries.
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u/TgirlTiffanyRPs 9d ago
i'm actually extremely credulous that a corporate-backed "centrist" would meet with a corrupt corporate fascist.
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u/Outrageous-Bite-8922 9d ago
I wish the DSA had endorsed that primary challenger instead of staying out of it. Jeffries certainly deserves it.
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u/Vilnius_Nastavnik New York 9d ago
I like Chi but DSA doesn’t have unlimited resources and can only run so many candidates in hotly contested races per year. The issue was that he just announced that he was taking a run at Jeffries without actually talking to DSA first or figuring out any of the logistics of how they’re supposed to take down one of the best-funded democrats in national office.
DSA isn’t a PAC, they take a vote to decide which campaigns to back so if you want the DSA nomination you need to actually ask for it and spend some time talking to the electoral committees before you call up a reporter and announce your campaign.
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u/-GuyDeLombard- 9d ago
Dem voters are tired of Dems always reaching across the isle and playing by the rules while Republicans change the rules of the game every chance they get.
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u/rhubarbpie828 9d ago
Jeffries just sucks. I am starting to think Pelosi picked him because he is so inept makes her look even more genius at running the dem caucus. That is the only thing I can come up with.
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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 8d ago
Jeffries can not be speaker if Dems win back the House. He doesn't have the stones to lead in this moment we're in. Just another establishment hack.
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u/arul20 8d ago
Clearly Trump is scared Democrats are going to win. That's why he's sending his minion to Jeffries.
TERRIBLE MOVE for Jeffries to meet with that ghoul. It's bad optics - makes Jeffries look like he's corrupt, makes Democrats suspicious of Democrats, and it splits up Democrats even more.
What Jeffries should have done was to publicly reject and humiliate Trump and other crooks that reach out. He should have said, "watch out for any other democrats speaking to these sleazy crooks", which would have prevented other Democrats from making deals with the Pedo-Crook gang.
Instead, Jeffries chose to dirty his name and split up Democratic party.
This was a desperate move for Trump but also worked out to his favour.
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u/eggnogui 8d ago
This dude is controled opposition. I mean, most of the Dem party is, but this one is especially servile.
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u/Nephthyzz 9d ago
How can this guy be so incredibly tone Def? Is he mentally handicapped
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u/JashimPagla 8d ago
No. This them revealing their true masters. Take the identity politics and virtue signaling away— the corporate dems and corporate repubs all serve as conduits to move money from the bottom to the top.
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u/johnny_51N5 9d ago
I got laughed at and downvoted when I said the Establishment democrats work together with republicans just a few hours ago. And now Jeffries meets with Kushner????
At the same time they absolutely tear into and even want to lose Michigan willingly if it's a left democrat like El-Sayed, not even DSA. I remember how vicious and racist they were towards Mamdani, wish they would be as aggressive fighting republicans but somehow they are always like "sowwy we just can't do anything 😔" but when it's a DSA candidate or some other leftie they turn into Hulk. Wtf is this bullshit?
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u/RipCityGringo Oregon 9d ago
This guy fucking sucks. Identity politics is so trash. Just let him go be a lobbyist already. Has anyone explained how well suited he is for lobbying and how much money he will bank?!
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u/themanwithnoname111 9d ago edited 9d ago
At this point, the Democratic Party icon should stop being a Donkey and should be the Party Leadership tripping over their own dicks.
I have been a Democrat for 28 years and the past ten have been an EDUCATION in how to ignore members of their own party.
Can we puhLEASE find effective party leadership and not this collection of gray paper cutouts?!?
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u/rook119 9d ago
Once corruption finds a home in government, in the very short term there is opposition. If its not stamped out ASAP, it bleeds right into the other parties.
As a country we used to be all "well y don't [insert corrupt country here] just vote out the corrupt pols, WUT R THEY STOOPID??" Its not that easy is it?
AOC and pols like Bernie are a bigger threat to the people who control the Democratic party than Trump is. This is how entrenched it is, keeping insider trading is their no.1 priority. Trump does something horrible WHOMP WHOMP WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. Some in the Dem party says something a little to liberally and its THUNDER FORCE ACTIVATE
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u/SuperTaster3 9d ago
Democrats are allowed to remove his position of power in the party at any time.
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u/AnusOprah 9d ago
Wait until Jefferies throws his support for an Israel-backed Republican over a progressive Democrat.
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u/CatLibArmy197 9d ago
The mask is off. He knows he’s on borrowed time, when we retake the house, this guy better not be our speaker again.
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u/VictorChristian 8d ago
Sweet gawd! The F are you doing, Hakeem? Well, I guess it’s best to know before the election.
I’ll be voting accordingly. Money OUT of politics!
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u/adfawf3f3f32a 8d ago
he and the rest of the mainstream dems are controlled opposition and it needs to be said everywhere and everyday
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u/DiagonalBike 8d ago
Jeffries is literally trying to sabotage Novembers election to prove that progressives are not the solution to Democrats problems.
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u/McGuire281 8d ago
I hope this meeting accomplishes three things, effectively tanking jeffries reelection hopes, kills his chances of becoming speaker, and convinces people to vote for progressive or DSA candidates that will NEVER support Jeffries.
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u/GardenRafters 9d ago
Jeffries has got to go. He's obviously compromised and working for the other side.
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u/TrenchGorefare 9d ago
Next Schumer’s gonna meet with Trump to get his guidance on upcoming investigations 🤦🏻♂️
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