r/politics • u/theindependentonline The Independent • 1d ago

No Paywall Trump’s ballroom construction ‘likely unlawful,’ John Roberts says, but Supreme Court will allow it anyway

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ballroom-construction-unlawful-john-roberts-b3042329.html
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u/AndreLeGeant88 1d ago

And by the time they rule it'll be done 

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u/Rodgertheshrubber 1d ago

Then it will be found it's of the same quality as the pool was and require a complete rebuild

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u/Socratesticles Tennessee 23h ago

But that’ll only come out if the democrats take power and they’ll be blamed for skimping on materials and trying to ruin trumps greatness

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u/Makenshine 22h ago

Remember when a significant portion of the GOP was angry at Obama for failing to act to stop the 9/11 terrorist attacks as President.

The playbook has been "throw all the mud possible, then roll with anything that gains even a little traction."

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u/Blownards 22h ago

How does that make any bit of sense?

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u/Makenshine 22h ago

No idea. But it was getting thrown around for about 2 or 3 weeks in the lead up to the 2012 election cycle. Mostly social media and small conservative online news outlets. Mostly Tea Party aligned groups.

It's one of the things that didn't gain traction.

The most insane one that did gain traction was the "Birther" movement. Which is actually what propelled Trump into the political spotlight.

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u/VintageLunchMeat 17h ago

insane

It wasn't insane.

Talking shit and implying shit about Obama's heritage and legitimacy and skin color worked for racist Republican voters as if it was laser-targeted.

It was effectively the endgame of the Republican Southern Strategy, and more broadly, conservativism as a whole.

Obama was in a position above and outside his caste or something, and that strongly motivated the conservatives to vote for Trump who directly addressed the issue, compared to some bland Romneyesque figure who'd go on about the economy.

See the Nation on Lee Atwater and the Southern Strategy for background on this.

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u/Makenshine 15h ago

Yeah, but the message itself was nonsense. That was the insane part. The message resonated and stuck because it was rascist. But it made no sense.

They said Obama was not a legitimate president because he was born in Kenya and thus, not a US citizen.

Well, then Ted Cruz was born in Canada. And thus he shouldn't be allowed to run for President. But Cruz's mom was an US citizen, and thus, by US law, Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen.

Well, Obama's mother was also a US citizen. So, by US law, Obama's place of birth is a non factor on determining his citizenship. Even if the Birthers were right about the place of birth (they weren't), Obama is still a citizen.

That's the nonsensical insane part. None of the messaging is thought out. Shit is just thrown all over the fringe sites and the GOP cobbles some crazy BS based on shar got shared the most. The GOP base locking onto crazy, racist rhetoric is sadly normal.

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u/bkbomber New York 20h ago

Remember when all it took for conservatives to get mad was a black man wearing a tan suit and a bit of dijon mustard?

Now we’ve got a traitorous pedophile and they cheer him on!

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u/joe-h2o 12h ago

They blamed Obama for the botched response to Hurricane Katrina too.