r/politics • u/HyacinthFT • 7h ago

No Paywall Donald Trump says transgender people will "end" if GOP keeps Congress in midterms

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/08/donald-says-transgender-people-will-end-if-gop-keeps-congress-in-midterms/
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u/BrooklynSmash 6h ago

Conservatism is just making things worse for everyone, as long as the group you hate gets it worse.

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u/twoducksinatub 6h ago

I mean literally the word conservatism means to conserve what you have and to resist progress. Progress being civils rights movement, womans suffrage, etc...

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u/JMurdock77 5h ago

Notice how smoothly repealing the 19th amendment entered the mainstream of their discourse with people like Joel Webbon taking the stage? The Overton window has shifted so far right I have no idea how our society is supposed to keep functioning like this.

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u/TripleJess 5h ago

Pretty sure we've got front row seats to the decline and collapse of America happening all around us.

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u/proteannomore 5h ago

Yep, and I can’t say I saw it coming, but it made the idea of being childless a lot more appealing. I can’t imagine trying to guide a child into life with this insanity.

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u/TripleJess 4h ago

I saw the collapse coming, I did not see the hatred towards trans people being so central to it all, or that I would be one of those hated.. but here we are.

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u/Its_Pine New Hampshire 3h ago

It was a pretty big topic during Hitler’s rise as well. It tends to be a convenient group to target for hatred to grow.

For those not aware, the early Nazis framed gender nonconformity and homosexuality as "sexual Bolshevism" and a plot by the Jews to destroy traditional family values, lower white birth rates, and cause whites to be replaced.

You know, the same stuff many prominent figures in the US government now espouse

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u/TripleJess 3h ago

Yeah, the German Institute of Sexology was one of the first places burned, and they were the leading group for transgender care and research. History loves to repeat itself.

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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 3h ago

only because idiots can't learn from it.

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u/Cryowulf 2h ago

I find it explains a lot that November 11th here in Canada is Remembrance Day, where down there in the states it's Veterans Day.

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u/Vaperius America 59m ago

Notably: it was specifically the first place the Hitler Youth raided and conducted the first mass book burning following the rise of the Nazi Party into power. Its notable that its the Hitler Youth that did it, because its important to contextualize that their attempts to infiltrate colleges and public schools (the GOP) are not random, but following the same playbook as the Nazi party to construct loyalist youth groups in order to sustain the movement long term; and its notable it was the first mass book burning, because it showcases how large of a pillar anti-LGBTQ actually was for the Nazi regime.

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u/sabedo 12m ago

And people learn nothing

This country was founded on racism and treachery and being destroyed by the same hate.

People are weak, base and petty. Blame the other instead of themselves. Black people and transwomen are the most hated people in the country today. They are erasing black history as I type and talking about physical eradication of transgender people.

This country needs to fall. I am just saddened I'm trapped here in the collapse like many others

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u/bottlebabycatfeeder 4h ago

Well, not all of us are insane. And i hope all us non insane people protect you when it comes down to it .

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u/TripleJess 4h ago

Thank you. I truly appreciate that sentiment.

But.. it has already come down to it. It's happening, as we speak. Violence and murder against trans people is high right now, justice for us is nonexistent most of the time. Being victimized can land us in jails that institutionalize our rape, torture, and murder. Hundreds of laws are pushed every year to strip away our rights and criminalize our very existence. Hospitals are preemptively refusing us care out of fear of what -might- happen to them if they give us medical care.

We're already dying.

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u/DesecratedPeanut 3h ago

And they're already doing nothing about it right now of course.

I'm sorry this is happening to you (from the UK) and similar is happening to trans rights where I am. Disgusting ignorant fools in charge everywhere. Though no where near as disgusting or ignorant as the US for some reason anti-trans is just as strong in the government here. I don't understand it other than the obvious culture war misinformation anger cycle gets clicks that turn into votes I guess. I'm just figuring out I'm non-binary during all this and it feels like the worst time for that too. It's insane that we'd both have been much safer and accepted 20 years ago.

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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 3h ago

well the thing is if you have trans people they aren't going to make babies. if they don't make babies then the free supply of workers dries up. if the free supply of workers dries up they can't live their extravagant lifestyle anymore.

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u/crimson23locke 2h ago

At the risk of sounding like an idiot preaching to the choir - if you haven’t already please check your area for mutual aid groups / other organizing. All the online discourse pales in comparison to physical community that has your back however they can. You’re absolutely right, you deserve none of this, and I hope you get a crowd of amazing people around you, shit has indeed already hit the fan.

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u/bottlebabycatfeeder 42m ago

Is there anything I can do for the community now?

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u/proteannomore 3h ago

Yeah, I didn't have "becoming a part of a highly politically persecuted minority" on my transition radar. Kind of ironic given how desperately I'd try to fly under everyone's radar while I was in the closet.

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u/TripleJess 3h ago

Right? I know exactly what you mean.

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u/ShirtStainedBird 2h ago

Man it’s wild. I tried to explain this to a fella, in Canada mind you.

All riled up about non existent litter boxes and ‘transing’ kids. Like buddy I have 2 school age kids these things are not happening lol.

Meanwhile there’s like 100 people in town that have nowhere safe to sleep to night.

But a kind of person you’ve never even met doing something near as I know they have never done is what gets all your attention.

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u/Chaiyns 1h ago

Good ol' Alberta lol

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u/istoomycat 3h ago

More projection from him?

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u/TripleJess 3h ago

Hmm?

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u/istoomycat 2h ago

Maybe he doesn’t like it about himself so wants others hurt.

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 1h ago

They're running out of new groups to fear and hate. Just casting about, hoping something lands with their idiot base.

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u/Automaton_General 50m ago

That's what they do. Vilify small groups with no meaningful way to resist, and then scale up once the water is boiling.

Nazi playbook.

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u/Stuwey 40m ago

I thought there were enough adults in the room to keep him contained, but that only lasted until the end of his first term.. I knew then that the lesson he learned was that the entire system is built on gentlemen's agreements and flimsy negotiation. Biden could have thrown the weight of the justice department at him, but thought the system was sound, only to realize the depth of trump's depravity in his last week and pardoned people and family.

susan collins' quip was right, and he learned that loyalists and co-conspirators are easy to manipulate and that if you just do what you want first, by the time anybody addresses it, you have already done five other things for them to look at.

he has no desire to fix anything other than 'fix'ing them to his favor. he will never be culpable and his narcissism has determined his warpath of destruction.

republicans are traitorous scum, absent their elected duty, and should be tried for treason.

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u/michaelfrieze 5h ago

I’m 38 and me and my wife really wanted a child but I don’t think it’s going to happen. She’s 36 so we really need to make that decision now and things just don’t look good.

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u/Reasonable-Leg-2002 3h ago

A suggestion: adopt. Lots of unwanted babies need families. And trust my experience, adoptive families have the same bond as fully blood related families.

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u/michaelfrieze 3h ago

This is most likely our plan.

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u/DesecratedPeanut 3h ago

This. I couldn't bring a child into this world even if you just choose to consider proven facts about whats going to happen (climate change) its going to be shit for them regardless of if the world gets its act together now. Adopt and you can give a child the best chance they'll get with non of the guilt of leaving them worse off than yourself.

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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 3h ago

one of the few choices I have made that I am genuinely happy about. I will never feel bad about not bringing a child into this hellscape.

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u/Saxopwned Pennsylvania 1h ago

Yeah, I have a four-year-old. The only thing I can cling to is that the society that succeeds the United States will be better for people.

But a lot of people are going to hurt before that happens.

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u/Even_Establishment95 1h ago

And people just keep going out to eat and buying gas cars and shitting on the poor and unfortunate while the world burns.

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u/Squid_of_the_Now 5h ago

It's not. They outright said it before the 2024 election: Trump and Revolution. This is a coup. They have completely rejected the existing society and want to replace it with their own.

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u/Embarrassed_Deal3284 2h ago

They already have, that’s the funny thing. Supreme Court, presidency, senate, congress, vast majority of state governments: all conservative. Even declining IQs.

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u/poppy_inmy_hair 10m ago

I’ve been saying this since 2024 and people just tell me I’m a conspiracy theorist

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u/JUST_GIVE_IT_A_SNIFF 2h ago

Less important than the obvious issues but also telling, I’ve seen a ridiculous amount of discourse about bringing back incandescent light bulbs and less fuel-efficient cars.

It’s really bizarre.

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u/Vaperius America 1h ago

The Overton window has shifted so far right I have no idea how our society is supposed to keep functioning like this.

There's an obvious answer to this question that was the logical conclusion to draw from the start all the way back in 2016 that some folks have been unfortunately resigned to accept was the obvious and inevitable trajectory we had been placed on by the GOP that plenty of other folks have taken over a decade to come to accept themselves.

Short answer though: we don't. Whatever is about to happen, the last ten years (plus the next two or so) is just a prelude to something much worse, whatever that is.

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u/1Dunya 3h ago

I agree and I think the only option left is a complete collapse of the system which is hastened by the selfish and idiotic policies of the elites in the US. I cannot see how the system can be reformed or changed, do you have any ideas? It seems like it is too far gone to be changed from the inside. I am not in any way suggesting a collapse because let's be honest it is always the regular folks who suffer.

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u/xxxxNateDaGreat 51m ago

The Overton window has shifted so far right I have no idea how our society is supposed to keep functioning like this.

It isn't, and that's their goal. Destroy and devalue the country, then buy it all for pennies on the dollar using .01% of their personal wealth, then turn it into a techno-fascist slave state.

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u/ElonMuskyOdor 3h ago

Spoiler alert: it can't

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u/Kup123 3h ago

Its not that's the whole point.

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u/jaredsfootlonghole 5h ago

Which is funny when you consider how liberally conservatives use gas and natural resources.

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u/SafeForTwerking 5h ago

You'd think at the least they'd be environmental conservatives to preserve nature for all the outdoorsy shit they claim to like and at the very least protecting the environments of the animals they want to hunt, but I'm guessing they'd be just fine with a modern variation on Royal Forests, reserved for white folks.

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u/arkiparada 4h ago

They don’t care about the planet because Jeebus is coming to end the world any day now and they’ll all be in heaven…which ironic because they do so little of what Jesus told them to do to get into heaven.

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u/ProfSpaceTime 4h ago

That’s exactly it. We’re watching cristofacists attempt to incite armageddon. It is literally their goal to end the world in hopes of being raptured

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u/arkiparada 4h ago

Yeah and not a single one would ever be raptured is the ironic and amusing part.

They can hang out on the destroyed planet they didn’t care enough about.

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u/gusterfell 4h ago

Even if Christianity is real and true, they still wouldn’t be raptured, because the rapture as they understand it has no basis in traditional Christian dogma, only becoming a concept in the mid 1800s.

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u/Zombatico 2h ago

American evangelicalism is a goddamned cult. It's not a mainline Christian Protestant denomination. It's a cult like the mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are.

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u/runnerofshadows 57m ago

A mix of death cult, doomsday cult, and with the prosperity gospel - mammon cult.

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u/sofaking1958 3h ago

None will be raptured, not because they aren't good people (though they're not), but because that's not a real thing.

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u/Goodknight808 3h ago

If only they actually read the book they pretend to worship.

Those who incite Armageddon go straight to Hell. Everyone is supposed to be nice to each other and do their best until the day comes. Speed it up, and you are the bad guy the Bible talks about. The heinously evil will make Armageddon happen and go straight to Hell.

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u/RedditTrespasser California 4h ago

Christianity, particularly the evangelical American variety, is a fucking death cult. Those people have no business sharing power in an Earthly government.

Frankly, if they are so sure that the afterlife is real and it’s so much better than here, I’d prefer it if they just went to go be with god already.

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u/arkiparada 4h ago

Can’t agree with you more. Sad I can only give you one updoot.

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u/Cheese__Weiner 3h ago

Also there is a crap load of money to made by exploiting the planet's resources and money generally trumps (pun intended) all in their minds.

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u/arkiparada 3h ago

Of course it does. Supply side Jesus told them so!

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u/benjtay 1h ago

That's the beauty of born-again evangelical/grace-centered Christianity. The only thing you need to do is accept Christ as your savior, and literally anything goes. You're saved.

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u/TrimspaBB 1h ago

You'd think they'd want to protect thid beautiful world gifted to us by God. I guess when ones version of Jesus is literally just saying "I'm sowwy and I believe in you so I'm forgiven now right?" it can really make for some fucked up world vuews.

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u/grape-fruit-witch 0m ago

This dead-eyed nihilism is the most disturbing aspect of evangelical Christianity. Fuck it, fuck other people. Fuck the planet. Fuck the animals. Fuck everything because Jesus is coming to bring me to heaven. It sounds like something a person inside a padded cell would say.

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u/gusterfell 4h ago

Historically, conservatives were very much in favor of environmental conservation. It’s only in the last few decades that the notion has become an exclusively left-wing one.

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u/sofaking1958 3h ago

Teddy Roosevelt being a fine example.

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u/TheOtherMaven Virginia 3h ago

Teddy was actually a Progressive Republican (an extinct species) and eventually switched over to full-on Progressive ("Bull Moose") Party.

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u/rothrolan 3h ago

Like the rest of what American Republicans used to support before the Brand New Deal, when the big switch of ideologies happened between Democrats and Republicans. Hence why the "Dixie-Crats" (AKA Southern Democrats) of before that time were the SOUTH that supported slavery, and Lincoln's Republican party fought to free them. Nowadays you have modern Republicans flying the traitorous Confederate flags, and they refuse to understand that the above ever happened, despite literally cheering for inequality and regressive policies.

It's sad, ironic, and above all irritating that we're doomed to repeat history because they are too blind to seeing it being re-written.

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u/SanityInAnarchy California 2h ago

They used to be! The EPA was started under Nixon.

You can tie yourself in knots trying to take 'Conservative' as an actual description of what they believe. It's like trying to find out what's democratic about the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Meanwhile, us Progressives are out here saying maybe take a second and find out what something like USAID actually does before you start taking a chainsaw to it, maybe conserve some of what we've built over the past decades.

I'd even go so far as to argue that when it comes to the literal meaning of the words, it's entirely flipped: The Progressives are conservative and the Conservatives are progressive. Tempting to say they're regressive, because they're trying to turn the clock back to the 50's or whenever they think America was Great, but no, immigration enforcement was never what it is now.

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u/reclusivegiraffe 5h ago

Also funny considering how much precedent the current supreme court wants to ignore. You could call the liberal justices conservative and the conservative justices progressive

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u/GenoThyme 5h ago

*regressive. You're right in that they're making changes but it ain't progress

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u/DrMobius0 4h ago

It's not about principle, after all.

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u/3-orange-whips 4h ago

It's really a bunch of butt-hurt monarchists.

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u/dinosaurscantyoyo Arkansas 5h ago

They should rename themselves destructionists. People for destructionism. That would be a more truthful and descriptive term.

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u/twoducksinatub 5h ago

I just call them idiots. I honestly dont think a lot of them even have the mental capacity to understand or care about their choices

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u/Logik_01 4h ago

"Selfish" is a better term for what they really are.

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u/HolycommentMattman 3h ago

I think it's important to remember that conservatism isn't inherently bad. How it's largely applied via all conservative parties these days is pretty bad, though.

But as an example, look at the Facebook/Uber/tech mantra of "move fast and break things." Conservatism should resist that. And personally, I hate that mantra of moving fast and breaking things. Procedures and systems should constantly be reassessed to see if there are better ways to do things, but throwing baby out with the bathwater just because you're unhappy with safety regulations is madness.

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u/punktualPorcupine 4h ago

What the fuck are they even conserving?

It isn’t the planet, the nations natural resources, the air or even the water.

They aren’t conserving the nations fiscal responsibilities, the economy, or jobs, wages, education, infrastructure, or even America’s standing in the world.

They’re arsonists who can’t govern. They just love watching things burn.

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u/SuperVaguar 4h ago

But at which point does social progress become something to conserve? Modern US conservatism is objectively complete bullshit, as it has morphed into a counter-revolutionary bigotry.

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u/Amerizilian 4h ago

Right? I've always said if these pricks want to "conserve" the olden days then stop driving and flying. Those should be too "progressive" for their snowflake asses.

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u/roberta_sparrow New York 3h ago

I thought it came from being conservative with big government - less changes, less government, fewer drastic overhauls of systems in place etc

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u/SouthEastSmith 3h ago

conservatism means "I dont want to think about it"

ie Lazy Brains.

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u/canniboss 3h ago

The only thing these psychos are conserving is their own privileged position as the "top" of the social order. They want to be "technically the best" because everyone else is pushed down harder, kinda crabs in a pot mentality. This is promoted by the actually existing "top" of the social order because it gives them free useful idiots to do any actual fighting while they rob everyone.

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u/Brilliant-Option-526 3h ago

But not conserve resources...

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u/GildedDreams25 3h ago

it doesn’t even go far enough, these people aren’t conservatives, they’re outright regressives. they want nothing more than to drag us kicking and screaming back to the 40’s

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u/Grizzly_Berry 3h ago

But but but muh party of Lincoln! A Republican FREED the slaves while DEMONRATS tried to keep them!

/s

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u/LotusFlare 2h ago

It's always worth remembering how and why conservatism came to be. It's a political ideology formed in Europe during the fall of the monarchies. The thing being conserved by conservatism was the social hierarchy of the aristocracy. The entire premise of conservatism is making sure society is still structured around top down power and betters and lessers even without kings and queens.

That's it. That's the whole thing. There is nothing else they're trying to conserve. Everything else is post-hoc. The methods have evolved, but the goal is always the same. The establishment of classes of people who get more and classes of people who get less, and the consolidation of power in the fewest number of people.

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u/Kaptain202 Michigan 2h ago

Yeah, but I swear they are more accurately regressives. They aren't simply resisting progress anymore, they are effectively destroying the progress

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u/ComfortableShare5525 1h ago

Conservatism is defined by arrested development.

They aren’t able to think about this for long enough to make new neural connections.

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u/Marsman121 1h ago

Conservatism, by its very nature, is forever doomed to be on the wrong side of history.

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u/frantic_calm 1h ago

conservatism means to conserve what you have and to resist progress

As opposed to the original Luddites, who modern conservatives would be machine gunning down.

Just reading about the Power Loom Riots which were ended when some manufactures agreed to pay a minimum wage.

A number of manufacturers subsequently agreed to pay a standard rate to the weavers, but on their own admission it was a "starvation" wage. The manufacturers who stuck to the agreement found it difficult to compete with those who did not, and could therefore undercut them, prompting an appeal to William Huskisson, the President of the Board of Trade, to introduce a legally binding minimum wage. Huskisson's response was dismissive, expressing his view that to introduce such a measure would be "a vain and hazardous attempt to impose the authority of the law between the labourer and his employer in regulating the demand for labour and the price to be paid for it".

Sounds like a Conservative. Funny how far we've come from 1826...

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u/Wankstain8 56m ago

Progress isn’t always good. Nazis thought themselves progressives (modern and forward looking).

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u/MauPow 53m ago

The only thing conservatism has ever been about is conserving the hierarchy (of wealth and power). It got its start during the French revolution when the monarchists wanted to retain their power.

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u/peon2 52m ago

I mean forget about MAGA people right now...that's not really correct. They resist change, not just progress.

Not all change is good. In theory they would resist things becoming worse as well.

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u/Actual__Wizard 32m ago edited 16m ago

Conservatism is reducing the government to a dictatorship. That's why it's called small government, it's a government of 1. Only 1 person has the authority to make decisions. If it's some rich and evil person, obviously they're going to rig the entire system in the favor of rich guys like them. If it's a fascist, then we're going to have a country similar to Nazi Germany.

But, that's what the word conservatism means and has always meant: It's the idea of reducing the government to a dictatorship.

Note that, the political version of the word conservative, is not typically in English dictionaries, due to rampant and excessive political bias.

And yeah: Obviously the people who produce dictionaries have political agendas too.

Because if they remove the word's definition from the dictionary, then people will just slowly forget what the word means over time.

Which as a reminder: Conservatism is the concept of reducing the government to a dictatorship and the republican party used to be composed of both moderates (people who want a republic, so a slightly larger government) and conservatives (the people who want a military dictator.) But, Trump booted the moderates out and called them "RINOs." So, apparently, the republican party is "exclusively for dictatorship lovers now." So, it's now a political party that exclusively worships Trump as their god king.

Obviously democracy is "big government" because the voters make the decisions, so you have the entire country contributing to the decisions making process.

Then when the people want the government to create a society for the people, instead of being exclusively for military conquest, that's called socialism. Because it's a government of people that works towards the objective of making life better for people in the country. And yeah, socialists typically see no purpose for military dictators. It seems like every time the US has a military dictator like president, that it doesn't really work out well for the people because the will of the people is being totally ignored. It typically creates a situation where the people suffer and other people die, while the country creates permanent enemies in the pursuit of military conquest.

I feel like I'm reading a history book right now. It's the same thing over and over again. A dictator gets power one way or another, and then they start killing people for money or other ill gotten gains.

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u/nerdvernacular New Jersey 20m ago

US conservatives are moreso regressives than anything else

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u/carefactor3zero 5h ago

conservatism means to conserve what you have and to resist progress

Slow progress is often preferable. I am conservative in writing code. I write all kinds of guards/tests around the code and release small changes. Assuming all change is progress is incorrect. Fighting to conserve what you have is part of recognizable animal life, so there's no chance that's going away.

I think, we've seen that the world has not ended and nothing has caught fire because of a very small population having their civil rights enforced. It's safe now MAGAts. It's safe.

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u/thisisaskew 5h ago

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

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u/Wayofchinchilla 3h ago

Therein lies the great hilarity of it all conservative Christians are scared that they will come a day that minorities outnumber white people and yet they keep time and time again and acting and voting and policies that make it incredibly unappealing for young people to have children that's why birth rates in this country are plummeting.

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u/reverandglass 52m ago

"Have you any idea how badly you have to torture a mammal for it to stop breeding?" - Some dude on a tic tok making a very good point about the condition the breeding age generations are in.

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u/Wayofchinchilla 22m ago

Well I guess conservative Christians have a skill because they didn't have to break any bones or smash any teeth in they just made everything unaffordable and made housing a dream only your parents can have. At least Ai and social media have made people so stupid that they hardly know what's real from what's not real or how to do simple tasks like read and write.

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u/wunderkit 3h ago

Lyndon Banes Johnson

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u/MrAutumnMan 5h ago

Except somehow it's even worse. They genuinely don't care if they suffer. They'll willingly let their children die if it means a trans kid doesn't play basketball.

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u/Sea-Painting7578 11m ago

they believe it's a virtue to suffer so that their god will reward them in the afterlife. It's crazy town in their brains.

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u/SnootSnootBasilisk 4h ago

They may be shitting their pants on a daily basis from the food they're barely able to afford, but at least trans people are miserable and can't get the necessary medications they need to live!

/s but not really

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u/Beneficial_Prize_310 5h ago

The point is to make it worse so people distrust the government.

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u/Affectionate_Buy_830 4h ago

Most normal people have always distrusted the government. I am 40. What has happened in my lifetime that showed me/us that we should trust them?

It is the complete opposite. They lack all accountability and work for shareholders and corporations.

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u/UlrichZauber 5h ago

Conservatism is fear disguised as rage.

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u/oldpasswordforgot 4h ago

There was a study not that long ago, maybe around the time of "The 1619 Project", that showed that the right wing's reaction to the 1965 VRA and other civil rights legislations hurt white people just as badly as minorities.

It made a fair bit of noise at the time, but of course, quick web searches do not bring it up - though I did see in the results studies on how racist reactions have made the health of white people worse; probably highlighting the fact that right-wingers rejected universal healthcare because black people would benefit from it, too.

Which reminds me of this recent video on YT: Would They Still Want Universal Healthcare?

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u/richardcraniumIII 4h ago

Reagan hated homosexuals and stem cell therapy (it kills "babies" ) But then his son came out and things changed inside Reagan's head. Then, Reagan suffered from dementia or something (kept saying that he could not recall). All of the sudden, stem cell therapy became a positive thing for diseases.

If you go back to Reagan, every single Republican president increased the our national deficit and conveniently started major conflicts. Grifters be grifting!

For comparison - see how the Dem presidents affected the our national debt.

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u/nezukoslaying 4h ago

They make their own lives so hard and unhappy because of this, too. I cant imagine living day to day so selfishly and bitterly.

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u/onlymostlydead Washington 2h ago

I'm not so sure "gets it worse" is even a goal anymore. Seeing the other group choking from smoke is enough of a distraction for them to not notice they're on fire.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 2h ago

And remember that none of them cared about trans people until the media blitzed them with hate for trans people.

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u/Intelligent_Sky_7081 5h ago

Own the libs

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u/poo_is_number_two 3h ago

Conservatives will gladly eat shit if it means people they hate have to smell their breath.

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u/Cryptic_Mutt 2h ago

Pulling the ladder up behind you while rubbing it in the face of everyone around you that you have it

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u/mercury_pointer 2h ago

Also tax cuts for the rich.

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u/IClop2Fluttershy4206 42m ago

. Conservatives need to be put into camps and forced to watch Sesame Street

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u/3ebfan North Carolina 39m ago

Conservative is the Party of Entropy.

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u/sabedo 16m ago

as long as black people are hated the system is working

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u/shrivman 4h ago

Liberals are equally if not more hateful of anything that does not fit this ideological window. Don't pretend this is one sided.

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u/mlnchlymrglds 3h ago

Lol not many wrinkles in your brain.

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u/shrivman 2h ago

You're proving my point.

All I said was that the hate isn't one sided and you've resulted to hurling insults.

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u/mlnchlymrglds 2h ago

MAGA's whole thing is upsetting people. They get joy out of it. If you support Republicans, you support that. You deserve what you give.

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u/shrivman 2h ago

You've made a number of broad assumptions that I don't agree with to justify hate.

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u/mlnchlymrglds 2h ago edited 2h ago

I'm not making assumptions. If you voted Republican then you voted for MAGA. MAGAs values are out in the open, and they aren't good. It's not my fault you support that.

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u/shrivman 2h ago

There is no good/evil here. Both parties are shit. I'm sorry you've been led to belive otherwise.

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u/trwawy05312015 2h ago

The liberal 'extreme' is deciding whether or not it's worth talking to conservatives and whether they're too far gone. The conservative extreme is somewhere between figuring out which people to deny agency and which people should be systematically exterminated.

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u/shrivman 2h ago

Both parties extreme is denying agency, just through differing forms. Liberal extremes play themselves out through censorship and maximized government intervention.

Both are evil. Pretending one is less evil than the other is a silly exercise.

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u/trwawy05312015 2h ago

through censorship and maximized government control.

this is literally describing Trumpism, which at this point is the only substantial conservative movement in the US

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u/shrivman 1h ago

I think it's fair to say conservatives have consistently voted against large government control which has seen itself translate to diminished support for Trump in conservative polling over this Term - especially in light of recent war actions. Just because a candidate does something, doesn't automatically mean everyone who voted for that candidate agrees with it. This has been clear throughout history. Voter sentiment shifts are healthy. I don't think that's controversial.

My point was simply that there is substantial hate/evil within both republican and democrat ideologies. How you try to justify otherwise is beyond me.