IDEs never really took off

[u/ErneuerbareEnergien]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49100809

[u/elephantdingo]

IDE users in 2005: Wow, I can rename a variable

IDE users in 2026: Wow, I can rename a variable

Dynamic language users in NaN: Wow, they can change a source code character without running the test suite

[u/tohava → u/elephantdingo]

Compilation is just another test suite :)

[u/vonmoltke2 → u/tohava]

Your users are the only true integration test

[u/National_Sky7993 → u/vonmoltke2]

I only test in production

[u/stone_henge → u/National_Sky7993]

If it doesn't crash the browser engine text editor, ship it.

[u/qrzychu69 → u/elephantdingo]

I mean, I still meet people who use text search in intellij to find issues of a function

IDEs have so many features many people don't care about, out don't know it's there.

I use Rider with a connected databases, continuous testing sessions, debugger with conditional breakpoints, custom log injection into even already compiled dependencies, vim mode, profilers ,and so on, I don't really have to use the mouse, there is no need to even open the terminal.

But one of my colleagues clicks edit -> find in the menu bar

[u/Evinceo]

Jetbrains is valued around $7bil 

What?

[u/irqlnotdispatchlevel → u/Evinceo]

The real jerk is always in the valuation.

[u/Jumpy-Locksmith6812 → u/Evinceo]

About 0.12 Cursors

[u/sens-]

Yeah, SATA has proven more flexible.

[u/YikesTheCat → u/sens-]

True Alpha Chads chain 6 SCSI drives and end with a terminator.

[u/MagmaticKobaian]

If IDEs never took off, why does my computer turn into a jet engine when I launch Eclipse?

[u/stone_henge → u/MagmaticKobaian]

I never really used Atom but back when everyone was excited about it, but I tried it once and would later would keep it open in the background in the winter so that my laptop would keep my hands warm.

As hardware caught up it has now been superceded in that respect by tools like pomodoro timers and Atlassian web apps.

[u/bitwize → u/stone_henge]

And for those really cold days... local AI models.

[u/FLMKane → u/MagmaticKobaian]

Because you need wings

[u/mutex_troglodyte]

IDEs are juvenile. When I was a child, I was taught refactoring using Intellij.
I grew up and today I use $SLOP_MODEL.

[u/NoSet8051]

Must be because of procedural programming languages. https://www.reddit.com/r/programmingcirclejerk/comments/1vfir9r/in_fact_the_lack_of_progress_in_ui_the_last_3040/

[u/Major_Barnulf → u/NoSet8051]

Circular jerking reference

[u/keyboard_toucher → u/Major_Barnulf]

Higher-kinded jerk!

[u/Alan157]

They did in Iraq

[u/Ontological_Gap]

There were truly awesome ideas for what IDEs could be a few decades ago. Lucid is a pretty good example for common languages. Smalltalk is a partial realization of the vision. The HN commentor is right, what we call IDEs nowadays are glorified text editors.

Code can, and should, be interpreted as structured data, not one big string.

[u/mexicocitibluez → u/Ontological_Gap]

You mean like Roslyn?

[u/spcbeck]

Notepad++ or death

[u/Actual__Wizard → u/spcbeck]

Is sublime text allowed? The mass replace feature is really neat in sublime text because it's multiline.

[u/Jumpy-Locksmith6812]

  They never lived up to the grand vision of the likes of Alan Kay

That is a high bar I just want to keep my boss happy get my paycheck.

[u/RockstarArtisan]

Grand vision of Alan Kay.

I wonder why a paradigm where you have to physically share memory images and can't just restart to untangle the program didn't catch on.

[u/kishaloy]

All you need after the OS is Emacs. All other applications are just skins on the one true application.

Pity they corrupted the Emacs Lisp Scheme with Java to create Javascript when they wanted a visual Emacs aka the Browser and here we are with the bloated Electron at the end of the journey. No wonder they want to go back to the original with WASM.

[u/garloid64]

Lowkey he's kind of right but LSP ultimately fulfilled the promise and more /uj

[u/mexicocitibluez → u/garloid64]

same with Roslyn

[u/busyHighwayFred]

it is micro$ucks fault of course

if visual studio and pdb werent created, we would likely have an even better alternative in linux, but instead all the &ame devs work on windows

[u/yo_99]

ed is the standard text editor

[u/Massive-Collection80]

An editor with database is already enough, and we also have some ide like android studio. What other "take off" do you want?

[u/resemble]

Idk if your vimrc is long enough, the line gets blurry

[u/programmingcirclejerk-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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