r/theunforgiven Jun 09 '24

Meta Subreddit resources and FAQ

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Welcome to r/theunforgiven!

This is a community where we share and discuss topics related to the Dark Angels, their successor chapters, and the fallen. If you want to share or discuss a topic about Space Marines or Warhammer 40k in general, without particular connection to the Unforgiven, then r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k would likely be a better fit.

Before posting

Please have a quick look at our rules before submitting a post or comment. You can find them in the sidebar or the landing page of our wiki (linked below). We'd also appreciate it if you did a quick search in the subreddit before submitting a post, in case your question was already asked and answered or the topic discussed recently.

Quick links

Here's a list of shortcuts to some of our most useful resources. Explore them at your leisure.

The community wiki

  • Landing page (subreddit rules and administrative information)
  • Lore page (narrative information on history, culture, and chapter organization)
  • Hobby page (information on building and painting)
  • Miniatures page (information on the model range and collectibles)
  • Gameplay page (resources on competitive play and FAQs/Erratas)

Informational PDFs (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)

Lore analyses (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)

  • MMH#1 - What is the Inner Circle, and who is in it?
  • MMH#2 - What separates a Master from a Grand Master or Supreme Grand Master?
  • MMH#3 - What is the relationship between the 'Captain' rank and the 'Company Master' title?

Frequently Asked Questions

-What would happen if X occurred in the 40k universe?

Impossible to answer, unless X has already occurred. We can predict the future and discuss hypotheticals in our own universe because it is governed by natural laws. If a stone is dropped, it will fall (assuming nothing prevents it from doing so).

The 40k universe is fictional, and is governed entirely by it’s authors. If a stone is dropped, it will behave exactly as the author desires it to behave. No justification or explanation is needed. We only know what the author desires if they have made it happen already. We thus know for example that Lion beat Angron in their fight on Wyrmwood, but we don’t know who would win if they battled again in the future.

-Can I/am I allowed to do Y?

You can/are allowed to do anything you want with models you own, within the confines of your local laws. Where other people are involved (eg playing a game), you will need the agreement of those people. As long as everyone involved consents, you can do whatever you want (including changing game rules, playing with proxies, etc). Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-What base size should I use for model Z?

There have never been rules in the core game dictating base size. Some competitive tournaments and events enforce their own rules, search for those if you need guidance. In general, casual players seem to agree that you should use the latest base size the model is/was sold with, or the base size the model was supplied with when you bought it. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-How strictly should models match their datasheet/equipment?

There have never been rules in the core game dictating how closely models must represent their datasheet. The answer may vary between each casual group and competitive tournament/event. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-How should I paint fliers/Dreadnoughts/Terminator-characters etc?

However you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).

-Who gets to wear robes/winged helmets/etc?

Whoever you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).

-Who’s in the Ravenwing/Deathwing/Inner Circle?

See the Chapter Organization section of Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above), or the relevant pages on Lexicanum.

-Could you identify a model for me?

See the Dark Angels Collectors' Guide (linked above). If the model you're trying to identify isn't in there, then it isn't an official Dark Angels model. If so, ask elsewhere, eg in r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k, or search through the miniatures portal on Lexicanum.


r/theunforgiven 6h ago

Painting Vanguard veterans

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324 Upvotes

Second of my Armageddon box done. Life has been busy and painting slow.


r/theunforgiven 50m ago

Showcase My most ambitious paint job yet

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I’ve mustered the courage to try hazard stripes and I think they turned out pretty nicely.


r/theunforgiven 9h ago

Showcase Slightly kitbashed Bladeguard Veterans, plus some old pushfit models Captains converted into Bladeguard

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175 Upvotes

r/theunforgiven 6h ago

Showcase Dark Angels RepEx

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72 Upvotes

Just finished the varnish on my first vehicle, my new best buddy the Dark Angels Repulsor Executioner. Complete with screw on weapon choices and a cute little guy in a hood.


r/theunforgiven 1h ago

Showcase Armageddon speeder finally done

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Very proud of how it turned out


r/theunforgiven 15h ago

Showcase 2nd bgv/icc done

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123 Upvotes

r/theunforgiven 1h ago

Painting Deathwing captain

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r/theunforgiven 15h ago

Showcase 3 down, 3 to go

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r/theunforgiven 11m ago

Showcase Korahael, Master of the Fourth Company

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Yesterday, I posted my nearly complete Custom Armageddon Captain. I was so happy and pleased with how that model went that this evening I finished the base and a handful of touches and varnished him. Of all my models, he may not be my favorite model, but I think he may be the best model I’ve ever painted.

Also, envisioned this as a custom company master, only to realize our companies all have named masters. So, with the 4th company livery on his tilt shield, I guess this is my completed Korahael

C&C welcome!


r/theunforgiven 23m ago

Painting My own take on Deathwing

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I’ve been experimenting with some recipes to finish my Deathwing detachment. Let me know what you all think.


r/theunforgiven 1d ago

Showcase My first dark angels!!

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588 Upvotes

r/theunforgiven 15h ago

Painting WiP need some advice

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So I'm trying to paint some green wing. My goal is one model a day to keep me enjoying the box. But I have some questions.

I'm not great at edge highlights but I tried to push myself. Have I done a terrible job here? I have moot green on hand but I'm not sure if that will be a good idea? It's a huge jump in brightness.

What decals do I use for the right shoulder pauldron? My transfer sheets don't have a red arrow. But I do have white upside down V marks.

Also how do dark angels marks out their companies? They don't use shoulder trim.

I want to do the eyes but I think this is one of the best faces I've painted and dont want to ruin it. Any tips?

Overall I think he has come out pretty nice.

Thanks guys


r/theunforgiven 1d ago

Showcase By far and away my best model I’ve painted yet - Master Lazarus

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Painted him up as a gift for someone and I’m honestly really proud of myself. First time painting armour with light like this was tough but man was it worth it! Hope y’all enjoy!


r/theunforgiven 6h ago

Gameplay Actions

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Playing PA, I feel quite disadvantaged because I cannot charge having completed an action (if I’ve understood that right?)

However, as Leonine aggression doesn’t count as a charge, could you use that to action and then fight?


r/theunforgiven 6h ago

Painting Basing ideas

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What do you guys do for bases that works well with all the colours we use in DA? I was thinking the martian bases but I already do that on my tau. I wanted to do Forrest bases but I can't get the look quite right? Cheers!


r/theunforgiven 4h ago

Painting How do i have to paint them?

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Im new to warhammer 40k and i dont know how to paint them, someone told me that i have to follow a successor chapter but i would like to paint them as i want. Any help pls.


r/theunforgiven 1d ago

Showcase Armageddon Vanguard Veterans

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Vanguard Veterans for the first company of my successor chapter the Sons of the Stag. I’ve only recently started painting with bone so I’d like to improve that, but overall like the details on this squad and happy with how they turned out. I used the Horus Heresy Deathwing Companions scheme for these.


r/theunforgiven 23h ago

Showcase Just started on Armageddon!

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25 Upvotes

Not new to Dark Angels, but I’m falling in love with the intercessors and Vanvets from this box!


r/theunforgiven 1d ago

Showcase The Lion and some dw knights

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My first dark angel models(have painted plenty before). A commission for my friend.

Tough question to ask but what do you think would be reasonable to charge? Is this commission quality good enough for wider work? I’m doubtful but wondering if that’s an option for me outside of friends.

It took me the weekend for these two. Pretty casual, first time doing dark angels and this type of base.

Happy to hear you opinions and will be a charging my friend a good bit lower than I probably should.

I could really do with taking better pictures tho.


r/theunforgiven 1d ago

Building First Army Built!

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Posting here because I finished putting together my first Warhammer army. I’m sure it could be better, but damn is this fun! Anyone else feel really happy seeing them all lined up? (Also I fucking love the Lion and his model turned out so well, I’m so happy)


r/theunforgiven 1d ago

Showcase Inner Circle Chaplain Ready for the Cabinet*

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He's finally done. There's a few spot fixes left to do here and there, but I used up all my motivation on the back of the robe. The inner circle color scheme has really grown on me though, so I might need even more risen HQ's.


r/theunforgiven 1d ago

Showcase Ravenwing Land Speeder #2 - With a Small Bonus

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r/theunforgiven 1d ago

Showcase Vanguard vets

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r/theunforgiven 1d ago

Painting My attempt at RWBKs from outriders

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111 Upvotes

I hate the outrider sculpts but was too impatient to wait for the new ones.