No escape from this problem 🤔

[u/Achilles_TroySlayer]

[u/SpaceGirlJackie]

I do think things change when the single person is the one causing all the problems. In the usual scenario the one person is also a victim.

[u/Not_A_zombie1 → u/SpaceGirlJackie]

The only solution its multy truck drifting + destroy the trolley

[u/SpaceGirlJackie → u/Not_A_zombie1]

For sure for sure

[u/piewca_apokalipsy → u/SpaceGirlJackie]

What if person tying people to tracks was coerced onto tying them

[u/SpaceGirlJackie → u/piewca_apokalipsy]

Then a mystery is afoot!

[u/Dry_Pollution_5430 → u/piewca_apokalipsy]

Do you want to play a game

[u/Voyager316 → u/SpaceGirlJackie]

But what if the person tying everyone up is a victim of mental illness?

[u/noiceonebro → u/Voyager316]

Or better yet it’s just the trains kids from asdf movie all grown up. All it takes for someone to go insane is their plans “going off the rails”

[u/AKelloggC → u/SpaceGirlJackie]

But he didn’t save anyone, He just killed the guy who tied them to the tracks.

[u/SpaceGirlJackie → u/AKelloggC]

Sure, someone else is dead, but they can no longer tie more people to tracks and kill them.

[u/Downtown_Promise_937 → u/SpaceGirlJackie]

The trolley problem has infinite scenarios. How many people, how involved are you, hpw good are those people, do you know them ,do othera find out. It is simply what would you choose.

[u/SpaceGirlJackie → u/Downtown_Promise_937]

Ok thank you r/TrollyProblem info page.

[u/Dull_Selection1699 → u/SpaceGirlJackie]

Right, if the person on the other track was the one who tied people to the first track, I’d probably feel less conflicted about pulling the lever

[u/Cheeslord2]

'I used the Trolley Problem...to destroy the Trolley Problem'

Thanos.

[u/DatDumbBoi → u/Cheeslord2]

no sir, its spelled as “Thanks” /s

[u/no_name6744]

Whoever kills the trolley man becomes the trolley man.

[u/Sianic12 → u/no_name6744]

Kill one trolley man and the number of trolley men in the world stays the same.

[u/Raxreedoroid → u/Sianic12]

if you kill 2 however

[u/Honeyfoot1234 → u/Raxreedoroid]

you get x2 the trolleymanness so that it preserves the number (this is official trolley man law)

[u/Considerable → u/no_name6744]

Like Santa Claus.

[u/2wicky → u/no_name6744]

So, you can either kill one trolley man and change nothing in the big scheme of things,
or kill five trolley men resulting in an overall net loss of trolley men in the world.

[u/AgainstSpace]

The Trolley Problem is always about who dies, and how does the switch man make this decision. The real problem happening in the scenario is the lack of a responsible, rational driver in a trolley with well maintained, functional brakes. It's ultimately about public transit funding.

[u/Mojert → u/AgainstSpace]

Even with functional brakes, inertia is a bitch. At least I know that's the case with trains, it wouldn't surprise me if it's the same thing for trolleys that go fast enough

[u/Civil_Performer5732 → u/Mojert]

Guess they need to invest in advanced warning systems too to prevent accidents?

[u/jonastman]

You see a stranger who is about kill the trolley problem guy. Do you kill the murderer, saving the guy who only creates challenging hypotheticals?

[u/Chingji]

When seeking to avenge, dig two graves.

[u/AMinecraftPerson → u/Chingji]

what a stupid quote. I am killing way more than two people

[u/Chingji → u/AMinecraftPerson]

HAH. COUNTER ARGUMENT: mass graves. Just dig a bigger hole, idiot <3

[u/Easy-Purple → u/Chingji]

Gotta kill the son too to prevent a blood feud

[u/mariusiv_2022 → u/Easy-Purple]

https://giphy.com/gifs/DvMHwFYLVHlZe

[u/Intrebute]

Okay but like, it is an escape from the problem, isn't it? There's no more trolley man.

No more artificial trolley problems. Nobody has to make a trolley decision ever again.

That's an easy trolley problem to decide on.

[u/Bernhard-Riemann]

This of course was the Trolley Man's goal; he forced the hero to kill him to save others, thus implicitly accepting his utilitarian thesis. In death he won...

[u/a-Curious-Square → u/Bernhard-Riemann]

Joker type mf.

[u/Prime-Motile → u/Bernhard-Riemann]

Whats in the booooox?

[u/KMS_HYDRA]

"You became the thing you swore to destroy! It was said you would destroy the trolley problem, not become it!" - Obi-Trol Kenobi to Trolleykin

[u/wolfheartfoxlover]

But you Still Caused Death, that's not very PACT like of you

[u/Wrong_Experience_420]

https://giphy.com/gifs/WnUtu8HxfWG3YVYkcQ

[u/Express-Day5234]

Ok, but what if Batman just brutalized Trolley Man into a coma and preserved his no-kill rule?

[u/Top-Complaint-4915]

When you kill the man who make the Trolley problems.

The number of man that make Trolley problems doesn't change - Batman

[u/MartyrOfDespair]

Wow, this is just like believing in the Rapture /s

[u/LordBobbin]

Luigi

[u/Stradinator]

What if I just kill everyone except me, than I tie myself to the tracks and start the troly

[u/CODENAMEDERPY]

And this has been posted again for the fifteenth billion time. Bot behavior.

[u/TheLigean]

The real solution is inventing low risk emergency breaks. Addressing the risks accepted as a given in social use

[u/Common-Ad6689]

The trolley solution

[u/magical-cat-here]

Yes, the maniac who ties people to the rails and forces other people to do these "no good way out" choices, that jerk deserves to be punished. Sounds like an ultimate solution to this problem as it prevents that from happening again.

[u/ctRJWaltz]

Just did something eerily similar to this in a dnd session today

[u/greywolf1143]

Fuggit, I'm tying him to the tracks along with all the people he tied to the track, but I'm putting him ALL THE WAY at the back, so he has to watch all those people die before he does.

[u/Nuquo]

One last time at least...

[u/tater_tot_intensity]

Trolly problem ends when a government responsible for the railroad gets revolted and everyone starves