r/ufc 10h ago

The moment where the fight could have ended in favour of ilia

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Ilia showed very low fight iq at this moment, had he rained down elbows on gaethje here, the fight was over.

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u/dank-kush 9h ago

O malley said something similar where if someone’s hurt badly he just turns around with his hands up or something and the refs sometimes just stop it. Illia might have gotten it if he didn’t go for the takedown here, he kind of let Justin recover a bit.

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u/flatwoundsounds 7h ago

Look at how many different title fights have happened since Paddy/Justin where a dude has a chance to win but follows the hurt opponent to the ground. It's kind of crazy how many times it's happened this year alone.

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u/sharingdork 8h ago

I was actually a bit annoyed for that white house o malley fight, cause it seemed that's exactly what happened.

It didn't seem he won the fight yet at that moment, but the Ref called it anyways.

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u/dank-kush 8h ago

True but I didn’t rlly care tbh, zahabi did not look good in there

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u/sharingdork 8h ago

He looked okay. He was working at something. Didn't think he was gonna win. But oh well

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u/FinanceDummyBigDebt 8h ago

I think it’s just cause the follow up shot looked vicious as hell

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u/hateuscuzyoenis 6h ago

Zahabi was stumbling after he tried getting up. Definitely looked like the right call there.

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u/Fun_Mortgage_4033 6h ago

Watch it again. Zahabi was insanely fucked. He could barely get up and walk around.

Good stoppage.

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u/yamchadestroyer 1h ago

He ain't trying that if herb dean is ref 😜

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u/notpain27 10h ago

I think he was in desperation mode here. Both of his eyes were already fucked up and it was only the second round. Considering his ego and the fact that he'd never experienced anything like this before, I guess he just lost his head. We didn't see the calm and collected Ilia we're used to seeing.

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u/MacaroonNo9736 8h ago

Hard to keep a cool and calculated head when it is full of pain

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u/Revolutionary-Wear89 8h ago

fighting outside may have also played a factor in the fatigue and low fight iq department.

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u/Mecastyles 8h ago

Justin said on JRE he couldn’t believe how tired he was after round 1 due to the heat/humidity outside. With that in mind, Ilia must’ve felt like he was on deaths door after round 2. Makes sense he was so flat afterwards

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u/Armand_Raynal 8h ago

The real factor for him being passive after round 2 is the adrenaline crash he had at the end of round 2. He had an adrenaline dump start with his first orbital breakage, and it crashed down by the end of round two, making go from active on the ground, looking for a sub, to maintaining top position until the end of the round. And being legally blind at this point also of course.

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u/BananaMonkey800 8h ago

Justin's durability is insane, he managed to recover from those body shots really quickly and despite being that tired and came back for a banger round like he still had gas for days

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u/dreemz80 7h ago

I heard he jammeo plaster of Paris into his liver before the fight to harden it up

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u/Iberri 2h ago

It’s true, he also filled his gloves with hands.

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u/BlackZulu 5h ago

That was my biggest concern with this card being outside. It didnt seem a big deal actually watching the fights but I do wonder how it impacted them.

u/jundraptor 1m ago

70 degrees in an air conditioned stadium and 80 degrees/80% humidity are worlds apart

I'm surprised Derrick didn't have a heart attack in rd 1. Guy got gassed walking to the cage

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u/Bruninfa 10h ago

Elbows or just letting Justin up would have finished the fight

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u/Majestic-View-6788 10h ago

He was struggling with those body shots

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u/Crooked-Grinds 3h ago

It was a good body shot

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u/jungersgothic 8h ago

He was gassed, panicking, and in pain. Didn't have a clear mind.

Chasing after a ko while eating jabs was low iq. Good chin though.

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u/Still_Clue383 10h ago

Getting him back up (which he might not have even been able to do) or ground and pound would've been better than grappling. He was gassed to shit and probs in excruciating pain though so i get it

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u/Shot_Newspaper_5647 4h ago

Justin himself did say he planned on just staying away or pulling guard if Ilia had forced him to get back up. I’m curious how that would have played out. It still probably would have worked out better for Ilia if he had been stood up. But I guess hindsight is 20/20 and all that

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u/katfat1 8h ago

Or or ....he was too tired after he exploded

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u/funghi2 8h ago

Ilia might’ve been gassed and running on adrenaline. Easy for everyone here to armchair quarterback this. You can’t just keep throwing bombs.

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u/OpenBanana5755 6h ago

Yeah tell that to Ilia so he could sleep better at night 😂

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u/Spiritual_Being_3786 9h ago

Redditors saying the then champion has low fight IQ , because he chose to try and finish the fight by submission , classic . People would be saying he should have gone for a sub , if he tried to ground and pound and failed . He tried to finish the fight , but couldn't , happens.

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u/LazyProphet 9h ago

It’s obvious you never trained grappling..

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u/Spiritual_Being_3786 8h ago

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u/LazyProphet 8h ago

Can’t see what they are for but if it’s for subbing people you should know how exhausting tut is to try to sub ppl in a hurry. Specially outside in summer heat…

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u/MuayMath 8h ago

that one medal says 1st grade special olympics participation

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u/new-faces-v3 The Eagle 8h ago

Always easier to make such choices in hindsight, he believed he could submit him after hurting him.

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u/Dull_Function_6510 8h ago

Yeah I think Illia was panicking and not thinking clearly, huge blunder imo

I’m guessing he just didn’t realize how close to a tko Justin was after those liver shots and underestimated his ground defense

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u/RipInfinite4511 8h ago

He quit at this moment. Spent the last minute just laying on him

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u/blind667 5h ago

but didn't

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u/curdlash 4h ago

I think he was completely gassed trying to finish Gaethje and was content with just controlling him for the rest of the round or thought he could easily submit him

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u/Leaked_Shlong 4h ago

hindsight harold

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u/copilot3 3h ago edited 3h ago

Ilias ego took this fight from him. He wanted to show he was like or better than Khabib, tried to go for a triangle choke from top, to finish Justin like Khabib did, when in fact Ilia did not need to do that and just go with some GnP.

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u/Old-Cloud-9731 3h ago

he unexpectedly displayed very poor fight iq, crazy how ego can just cloud your intelligence

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u/absolute_cinema81 3h ago

This fight is turning into the JFK Zapruder film. We are going to be rehashing this for years apparently. 

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u/pixel8knuckle 2h ago

But did not.

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u/keyboardlegendthe3rd 2h ago

That background in grappling coming back to haunt him

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u/Least_Health8244 2h ago

Extremely possible!

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u/Tonythetiger1775 1h ago

I 100% agree but to the legit Illia copers, this can be said about more than half of all fights. Dudes get wobbled all the time too so. This is an example of good reffing. Although, I do wish they stopped it earlier cause Illia literally looks different now

u/seonblack 36m ago

The body shot in the second round that caused Gaethje to drop and cause him to pull guard in that picture.

I do believe man that if they have a rematch, Topuria wins that fight. Gaethje trained very well for the fight.

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u/Suspicious_Candle27 Based Potato 8h ago

It is SO HARD to KO someone with GNP who was not already rocked to the HEAD .

Illia couldn't do what u are asking cause Justin was with it the entire time , everytime Illia tried to GNP Justin would counter by moving or trying him up .

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u/ulwius 10h ago

His first mistake was to take him down. If he actually kept up with the combinations then it couldve ended differently. Justin got rocked really bad when Ilia threw his body combinations , hence why he got taken down so easily.

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u/Maloba6441 9h ago

Didn't he drop him with body shot

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u/Suspicious_Candle27 Based Potato 8h ago

Yup illia didn't take him down he was dropped

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u/Fun-Inspector281 8h ago

You think they was gonna let a white guy lose to a Mexican at the White House?

Are you kidding me? Any other time Ilia would have won.

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u/EmployeeCool3489 7h ago

Gaethje is half Mexican

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u/Imaginary-Donut7648 6h ago

Can you answer, in clear and concise sentences, the following questions:

Who is 'they'?

How did 'they' make Topuria grapple in this moment? (Or alternatively, how did they stop him from just standing there and forcing Justin to stand back up)

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u/12TonBeams 2h ago

Ilia is whiter than Justin dumbass.

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u/Old-Cloud-9731 8h ago

But white chandler lost to indian ruffy tho