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Sean Strickland's latest post on twitter

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u/A_Town_Called_Malus 3h ago

No, until the doctors at whatever institution she would be committed to are satisfied that she is properly treated and no longer at risk of psychotic episodes.

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u/StewDD 3h ago

Most doctors will not risk their license or reputation by releasing a person found not guilty by reason of insanity. For the most part, it's considered a life sentence.

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u/red286 2h ago

On July 30th, 2008, Vincent Li stabbed and killed Tim McClean on a Greyhound bus from Edmonton to Winnipeg in Canada. He then proceeded to decapitate Tim, display his head to people outside the bus, and cut off other portions of his body and eat them before the police showed up and arrested him.

In the trial that followed, it was determined that Vincent Li was not criminally responsible due to having undiagnosed schizophrenia (apparently people just assumed he was a very devout Christian convert when he told people that Jesus spoke to him). He was remanded to a mental institution in 2009.

By 2012 (3 years later), he was allowed to take supervised trips into the nearby town. By 2014 (5 years later) he was allowed to take unsupervised trips into the nearby town. By 2015 (6 years later) he was allowed to take unsupervised day trips to Winnipeg so long as he kept a cell phone on him at all times. By 2016 (7 years later) he was allowed to live independently outside of the prison. In 2017, 8 years after being committed, he was given a full non-conditional discharge, with no legal obligations or responsibilities above and beyond those of any other citizen.

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u/Great-Trifle2810 1h ago

While I am usually pretty quick to be critical of the Canadian justice system this seems reasonable. He was determined to have committed the crime as the result of a psychotic episode, doctors determined the issue was resolved, slowly reintegrated him into society and he has not committed any crimes since.

This seems better than the alternative of locking up a now healthy person for decades at the expense of the tax payer.

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u/PM_ME__BIRD_PICS 1h ago

no legal obligations or responsibilities above and beyond those of any other citizen.

Surely he has some kind of psych team keeping tabs on him right??

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u/Great-Trifle2810 1h ago

While I would not be opposed to ongoing check ins with psychiatrists being required I generally trust doctors to know if a person needs continued care better than I trust the general public. Like it would be in their interest to say he needs care even if he doesn't so it's not like they are doing this for some corrupt reasoning.

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u/red286 1h ago

Sure, but a lot of people were furious when he was released, and also, it shows that doctors absolutely will release patients found not criminally responsible due to mental health reasons.

u/Great-Trifle2810 46m ago

People's anger isn't super relevant to me on the matter, and they should be released if they are found to be not responsible because of mental health reasons and then after extensive care those issues are found to be resolved. It is also a very different situation in Canada and the US.

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u/myncknm 2h ago

if you're going to be citing "actual legal terms" for people, you should at least look into what else might be an actual legal term (like "not guilty by reason of insanity (NGRI)") and what she actually legally pled ("not guilty")

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u/jamoe1 2h ago

Or in this case, at least till she hits menopause

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u/BedbugBandido 2h ago

I know it was Canada, but after those doctors released the guy who decapitated and cannibalized that dude on that bus, nothing would surprise me.

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u/Great-Trifle2810 1h ago

He committed his crime as the result of a psychotic break, which has now been resolved. If his doctors were confident enough to release him I am not sure why I should not trust them. And I say this as someone incredibly critical of the general catch and release habits of the Canadian justice system.

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u/WhoShatMyPants42069 2h ago

Where did you get this info? Look up Ronald Exantus.

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u/Emergency-Fig-3670 3h ago

Being found guilty of insanity is usually a life long sentence.

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u/Present_Award8001 3h ago

will those doctors be resurrecting the kids too?

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u/apirateship 3h ago

So what? 18 months?

Sounds reasonable.

Should be sooner

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u/Cheese_Fisticuffs1 3h ago

Tell that to Andrea Yates, who's been in the looney bin for 25 years for killing all 5 of her children.

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u/Extreme-You6235 1h ago

That’s largely due to Andrea waiving her yearly rights to be medically reviewed to determine release eligibility. If she really wanted out of the hospital and was determined legally rehabilitated, they would release her.

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u/Cheese_Fisticuffs1 1h ago

Yes, key phrase being "and was determined legally rehabilitated" which in Texas is determined by the State District Court presiding judge.

She not only has to be medically cleared, she also has to get a Texas judge to sign off, which I wouldn't count on. But, since that's how it works practically everywhere, that's not a condition unique to Andrea Yates that doesn't apply to Lindsay Clancy.

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u/FeelingWoodpecker121 3h ago

Well yeah cause like, FIVE kids is the line. Three is like a whole two kids away from the child strangulation ceiling.

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u/apirateship 3h ago

She didn't have 'post partum psychosis'.

Clancy did, and it's over now.

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u/Cheese_Fisticuffs1 3h ago

Yes, she did have postpartum psychosis. That's why she's in the looney bin. If she hadn't had a defense like that she'd be in jail.

Over now? Did the jury return a verdict? Last I saw, they're still deliberating.

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u/Latter-Block132 3h ago

You should try doing some research on what you are talking about because yes she msot certainly did.

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u/A_Town_Called_Malus 3h ago

Again, that is entirely up to the doctors.

Have you ever read One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest?

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u/Comprehensive_Log173 3h ago

Could be as little as 40 days

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u/apirateship 3h ago

40 days! That's over a month, that's like, forever.

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u/Comprehensive_Log173 3h ago

Almost as long as her kids will be dead for...oh wait

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u/First-Celebration-11 3h ago

Let’s do 10 hrs of community service. I hear the YMCA needs ppl.

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u/HawkHarder 2h ago

Welp they didn't do that great of a job up until the point she strangled her 3 children with an exercise band. So who knows how long she will be in there.