r/whenthe • u/shadow_fen you should join r/goldentrump • Jun 28 '26
the daily whenthe Delete! Delete! Deleeeeeeeeete!
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u/Additional-North-683 Jun 28 '26
This whole thing started because he was upset about the Wikipedia article for young creationism being negative about it
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u/Nero_Team-Aardwolf Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
Are you shitting me 😭
How people can defend creationism in general is beyond me like this is not something you can be objective about, the bible and it‘s religious tales are entertaining but taking it‘s teachings as facts is wild to me. I‘m not religious but I can understand believing in a greater thing sure man you do you if it helps you but creationism is something else…
Like my guy creationists built the ark (as a sight you can visit) realized it makes no sense and still believe in it… It is beyond me how this will be taught at some US schools as an alternative „real“ way humans were made instead of just going by logic. (we‘re just mammals that got a way too overpowered brain and we were lucky to end up like we are today and nothing special from a biological standpoint at least no more like any other being that evolved in their way)
Creationism is what‘s holding many people back in the US and actively fights against change which is exactly the opposite of how life works in general…
(To the guy who tried to comment saying it‘s about being objective and then calling me names, there‘s a difference between having a biased opinion and telling about negative aspects of a topic… being objective in a wiki page does not mean you can‘t have positive or negative remarks… it just means that you see both parties of an argument with the same objective view seeing both negative and positive sides… it‘s about telling the whole story and truth without regards to opinion and feelings)
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u/ChopeIsYes Jun 28 '26
While I agree, it would feel amiss to not point out we are also the best endurance runners on top of our overpowered brain
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u/Nero_Team-Aardwolf Jun 28 '26
Oh yes ofc I wasn‘t saying we aren‘t special in general I was just saying we aren‘t more special than any other life form in their own regards we‘re just way more intelligent or to be more specific our intelligence is way more versitile than other species from an objective standpoint allowing higher thought and we can sweat (which cools us effectively while hunting for a longer period than other predators).
I was trying to simplify a much larger topic to not blow this out of proportion.
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u/IllEvent5465 Jun 28 '26
Also we have opposable thumbs, can throw stuff somewhat accuratly and are a mamal that walks on 2 legs
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u/hoboshoe Jun 30 '26
I'd say those two features are correlated and gave us the facilities to invent god rather than being god-given.
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u/GeneticEnginLifeForm Jun 28 '26
Maybe the best persistence hunters but lots of animals have us beat on endurance. Horses, ostriches, sled dogs, etc...
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u/Mortwight Jun 28 '26
this arc it has dinosaurs in it too
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u/Old_pixel_8986 fatfur and inflation lover Jun 28 '26
the founder and co founder of Wikipedia:
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u/Ben_quadinaros_real wicked and bitchless Jun 28 '26
Haha, i have depicted myself as the honest & respectful james and you as the wicked & bitchless paul
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u/Free-While-2994 Jun 28 '26
Wicked & Bitchless is a great flare
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u/sparklinglies Jun 28 '26
Also a great album name
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u/jancl0 Jun 28 '26
I was gonna say bitchless paul, could be a stage name/band but I actually think it works better as an album
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u/Limp_Green_960 Jun 28 '26
But if he eats the soup the girls will want him
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u/G-M-Cyborg-313 my flair got stolen Jun 28 '26
Plot twist: the girls actually just want to be friends with him
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u/PochitaSoda i am a result of scp-914 Jun 28 '26
"ROTTEN BOY. I HATE FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'S. AND I HATE MY ROTTEN SON"
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u/FurViewingAccount Jun 28 '26
if we are to be fair, both of the founders of wikipedia kinda suck. the other one made fandom wiki
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u/Old_pixel_8986 fatfur and inflation lover Jun 28 '26
it would've been a good platform if they adapted it more to the Wikipedia style
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u/The-Bigger-Fish That one guy from that one show. You know the one. Jun 28 '26
And the moral of the story is…. Soup is great
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u/abermea Jun 28 '26
Larry Sanger, one of the co-founders of Wikipedia, has been going on a tirade for like a decade about how Wikipedia has a Liberal bias and that it needs to be a little more Conservative to keep a semblance of neutrality and he recently got permanently banned for trying to inject said Conservative viewpoints.
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u/MrSpiffy123 the peener snipper guy Jun 28 '26
conservatives thinking neutrality means ignoring facts in favor of giving equal credit to both sides even when one is blatantly incorrect
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u/Bungo_pls Jun 28 '26
Reality is biased against conservative beliefs.
A rational person would want their beliefs to reflect reality. Conservatives choose their preferred fantasy.
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u/DarthRiko Jun 28 '26
Hey now, you need to be careful there. Having your beliefs conform to the best available evidence and being careful not to distort data to match your pre-existing beliefs is some real Satanic shit.
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u/6FRanger Jun 28 '26
Satan seems like the dude who would give free hugs on pride month parades. Good for him
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u/Ok_Calligrapher5278 Jun 28 '26
Don't you wish you didn't need to post sources on Wikipedia? Isn't it awful how you know something for a fact but can't seem to find anything confirming it, so you can't alter a Wikipedia article on it?
Oh, boy, are you in luck cause we have conservapedia!
Be sure to check some of our best articles like:
Best arguments against homosexuality
Top ten arguments
(Homossexuality) is infringing on more important freedoms, like freedom of religion and speech
Or Donald Trump achievements: Foreign policy
Which doesn't have any entries for 2026, but plenty of highlights like:
- Leaving or announcing the intention to leave globalist agreements
- Recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital.
- Leaving or announcing the intention to leave the United Nations Human Rights Council
- Giving yet another strongly conservative and nationalist speech at the UN General Assembly
And many more!
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u/GuthukYoutube Jun 28 '26
Conservatives make the argument that both sides should be given equal weight
Even if one side has all the facts and logic, the other side should be given fair weight because ... Uh?
Their arguments rests on you feeling bad for them
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u/clitmasher69 Jun 28 '26
Because they (pretend to) think EVERYTHING can be an opinion. Then all you have to do to paint yourself a victim is say "it's just my opinion and they hate me for it"
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u/Neethis Jun 28 '26
This also is just phase one. Once they've got equal weight for truth and lies, they then insist that the truth shouldn't be told because it makes them feel bad.
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u/Riakuro Jun 28 '26
“I was told there would be no fact checking”; we’re well into phase 2 it seems.
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u/Neethis Jun 28 '26
Yeah it hasn't been even progress. News and social media has been in phase 2 for a long time but there are still holdouts like Wikipedia which has refused phase 1.
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u/Mercurion77 Jun 28 '26
The earth is either billions of years old, like chemistry tells us, or 6000 years old because some guy said so. Both opinions are equal according to them
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u/Infinite-Radiance Jun 28 '26
Ironically enough the history behind all that would smack them so silly they'd have whiplash. Western science has been historically driven by Christians attempting to understand the world via the gospel, and running into all the evidence forced the church into discussion of alternative interpretations more in line with reality. I wont be excusing anything the Church has done vis a vis Heliocentrism/anti-intellectualism in general of course, but it's so striking to me that some of the people who confirmed the former back in the day literally were the people who thought it was 6000 years old, and now we have the entire flat earth/young earth ""debate"" still somehow going on today.
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u/SunkEmuFlock Jun 28 '26
Conservatives think you should believe Earth is a half sphere because they believe it's flat.
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u/WhereIs_TheSun Jun 28 '26
A normal person searches up a question, a conservative searches up what they believe the answer is
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u/dunkinthegreg Jun 28 '26
No shit, why do you think so many republican lawmakers, politicians, and donators are in favor of cutting education
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u/ollervo100 Jun 28 '26
It would be insane to make any divide to two categories on any criteria and demand that the representation of the two categories should be equal.
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u/burf Jun 28 '26
Conservatives choose their preferred fantasy.
Realistically people of all ideological stripes have a tendency to do this to some degree, although conservatives tend to be much more egregious about it.
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u/MoonTheCraft ha you looked Jun 28 '26
something something truman show christof "truman prefers his cage" something something
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u/FarRightBerniSanders Jun 28 '26
"Every one of my Google searches and every curated forum I find myself in says so!"
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u/Probably-Jam Jun 28 '26
objective, neutral truth has a "liberal lean" because conservatives are constantly fucking lying about everything
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u/3xper1ence Jun 28 '26
for those who are interested, here is the relevant wikipedia policy page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Due_and_undue_weight
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u/OneBigRed Jun 28 '26
”Why do have paragraph after paragraph in the vaccine article about studies of safety, and dr. Armpitfart’s statements from his tiktok reel are in conspiracy section? These should be presented as equally valid points!”
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u/Code_Monster Jun 28 '26
Huh, wasn't theirs the political side that was supposedly against participation trophies?
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u/NotQuiteLoona Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
They want false balance/bothsidesism fallacy to be forced on everyone and not just on Fox News, just to affirm their viewpoints. Almost everything they say is a projection.
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u/Ravenwood03 Jun 28 '26
Where's that image where someone claims fact checking in a debate is unfair because left wing arguments are based more on fact, and are hard to fight against without lying?
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u/childdefenestrator67 Jun 28 '26
Funnily enough he had pulled out of Wikipedia 25 years ago, thinking it a dead project. Ever since he's been trying to pressure his opinions into it
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u/M1sfit_Jammer Jun 28 '26
fair and balanced is this...
P1 - Genocide is wrong and we shouldn't do it
P2- Genocide is great and we should do it as often as possible
Fair and balanced take - Genocide is great but we shouldn't do it (openly)
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u/DingleDangleDoff :3 Jun 28 '26
Conservatives when pesky things like facts, data, logic and actual statistics get in the way of their viewpoints
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u/HarperWuff Jun 28 '26
I was told there would be no fact checking
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u/Yarael-Poof projectile sharting as a mode of transportation Jun 28 '26
they really don't like it when the mirror tells them "facts don't care about your feelings"
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u/DaKaijuKid Will upvote if Godzilla Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
I remember needing to watch a news clip in my HS government class that was making complaints about Wikipedia having a “heavy liberal bias” and the example several people went off on was imprisoning camps used US by immigration enforcement being listed “on par with the Holocaust” because they were both in a list on a page on internment camps.
Uh, immigrant imprisonment camps are internment camps? No one was saying they’re “as bad as the holocaust” they simply also meet the definition of ‘prison camp where large groups of people from demographics are taken against their will and held for undisclosed and undetermined amounts of time.’ It was such an annoying complaint on the simple facts of things being applied as they are. I could totally see arguments in some places for Wikipedia being left leaning, but they chose the worst possible one to try and argue on.
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u/Aimela Jun 28 '26
Yeah, don't want it to end up like Conservapedia. That place is a a wretched hive of agendas and stupidity.
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u/Zavender Jun 28 '26
For the longest time I thought that site was satire, I used to enjoy visiting it for all the kooky entries.
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u/Synli Jun 28 '26
Why the fuck did I visit that site
I feel dumber now just for reading the article on COVID-19
And people actually believe this shit - good lord
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u/PutInfinite4118 Jun 28 '26
Considering what Conservatism is these days, trying to find a middle ground between liberalism and it would be like trying to find the middle ground between black licorice, which people have mixed opinions about, or the Elephant's Foot in Chernobyl.
Neutral =/= Middle Ground. Not when one of the schools of thought has become so damn vile that said middle ground is still somewhat egregious.
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u/ThaGr1m Jun 29 '26
Someone else said jt started with him being angry about how the young earth creationist page was negative.....
If you literally are angry at how a religious conspiracy theory is seen as negative you've lost the plot.
It's indeed impossible to find the middle ground with these people because to them science as a whole is wrong
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u/deukhoofd Jun 28 '26
Also important context is that Larry Sanger was fired from Wikipedia in 2002 during the dot-com crash, after which he's spent the last 25 years complaining about it.
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u/PurpleDelicacy Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
Love people like that who cannot think outside the American politics bubble. He thinks neutrality means something between liberals and conservatives? Brother these are both right wing for any country with a somewhat normal political landscape.
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u/GuyManDudeMcGee Jun 28 '26
I'm not informed about anything Larry Sanger has said, but there genuinely is coordinated wiki vandalism from left wing groups that's been documented. I'm saying this is as someone on the left.
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u/fireky2 Jun 28 '26
His actual ban was for trying to coordinate a group of conservatives to edit the platform, not for making the site more conservative. Essentially brigading which they have rules against
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u/10ebbor10 Jun 28 '26
And coordinated vandalism from right wing groups, and from corporate interests, and from celebrities...
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u/SometimesWithWorries Jun 28 '26
Then why are you only criticizing left wing vandalism as if it is a unique issue and ignoring the much more prominent corporate vandalism and white washing, or right wing vandalism? "As someone on the left," you are oddly going out of your way to make this seem like a unique issue of the left when it very much is not. It is almost like you are actually a fascist.
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u/hanks_panky_emporium Jun 28 '26
Whats funny is theres a conserva-pedia, where only conservative slants and views are allowed. Its a fun scroll.
Unironically enjoyable to read through bits of it. Like reading fiction based loosely on reality.
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u/the4evermore purpl Jun 28 '26
Both are true , Wikipedia today is very biased , and the direction change depends on where you look.
And before people say everything is. No not everything is and it wasnt like that 10 years ago either
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u/Fluffy-Froyo4549 I need air(i am having an asthma attack) Jun 28 '26
Huh, weird how the left operates on more facts and the right on outdated misinformation
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u/NanoYohaneTSU Jun 28 '26
It does have a liberal bias due to the fact of having a closed clique of extremely liberal writers and editors, but these problems are small compared to the biggest issue wikipedia has in that it deviated from it's original intent and has devolved into surface level reading created by people unknowledgeable about the subject.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wikipedia-editors-elite-diversity-foundation/
This is a bit outdated, but when you realize
1,300 people are creating over three-quarters of the 600 new articles posted to Wikipedia every day.
You are basically mindjacked by a closed clique writing reality by mostly making shit up. Anyone who has actually tried to use wikipedia's references (me) gets fucked because everything is either missing our the intent from the research is not actually apparent.
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u/KaleidoscopeSalt3972 Jun 29 '26
Wikipedia is not political place, they font care sbout ledt or right, they care about truth.... And truth is usually left leaning
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u/Rakkuuuu Jun 28 '26
I've read conservative news articles where the conservative authors may have used the term liberal in the broader sense of the word, like "liberal democracy", and had to see all of the people commenting, completely forget about the article because they were too busy screeching about that. If you read something like the Conservapedia, or the Conservative Bible Project, or any effort from conservatives to try to make something "fair", they read so on the nose, they come off as bad parodies. Conservatives don't know what unbiased and neutral means, they literally don't have the mental capacity for it.
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u/natlovesmariahcarey Jun 28 '26
Oh THAT guy? Didn't he join an interview and then walk out after 5 minutes because he was introduced as co-founder?
Conservatives are so unbelievably fucking soft.
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u/--PhoenixFire-- Jun 28 '26
This is about Larry Sanger, who co-founded Wikipedia but left the project all the way back in 2002. Since then, he's criticized Wikipedia for supposedly having a "leftist bias" and being "establishment propaganda".
Recently, his Wikipedia account was banned from editing for life after a lengthy discussion. The reason given was "off-site canvasing" - that is, he was going around encouraging people to edit Wikipedia en masse.
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u/NicholasWildeRails bringing the Morning Thunder Jun 28 '26
Unsurprising the conservative nutjob is also a sore loser
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u/Diedrogen Jun 28 '26
Didn't someone create a version of Wikipedia with a more conservative bent? Was that person involved?
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u/Indercarnive Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
There's been a few attempts. I think the most notable recent one was Grokopedia from Musk that's just quite literally a copy/paste of wikipedia by Grok except for whatever talking points Elon personally takes issue with
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u/ollervo100 Jun 28 '26
That version was running wikipedia articles through an llm with prompts such as "write this with a conservative spin".
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u/shadow_fen you should join r/goldentrump Jun 28 '26
(he was one of the founders and he didn't actually do much lmao)
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u/Barricades_toes It took 9 yeareals to collect these cereals Jun 28 '26
Wasn’t he only there for like a year? Grade A bum
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u/FesterRatty Jun 28 '26
Conservatives contributing nothing but demanding everything? Say it ain't so!
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u/Absolutely_dead727 I am Jaxing it rn Jun 28 '26
Also, what the fuck is a r/golden Trump?!?
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u/shadow_fen you should join r/goldentrump Jun 28 '26
My subreddit :3 fun experiment I did
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u/Absolutely_dead727 I am Jaxing it rn Jun 28 '26
I joined it :3
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u/shadow_fen you should join r/goldentrump Jun 28 '26
waow (we need posts to grow it so if u can post smth that would be nice)
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u/Absolutely_dead727 I am Jaxing it rn Jun 28 '26
Hold on! I think I know a way to promote it :3
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u/shadow_fen you should join r/goldentrump Jun 28 '26
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u/Absolutely_dead727 I am Jaxing it rn Jun 28 '26
Just get people to see this comment thread, and boom, free promotion, hmm? How does that sound?
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u/SagittaryX Jun 28 '26
There was an interview a little while ago with the other founder of Wikipedia who did a shitload more work was asked about the co-founder, and he is just left after the interviewer refused to take away the co-founder credit of the other guy.
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u/LoganCube400 The Dillinger Escape Plan is peak Jun 28 '26
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u/shadow_fen you should join r/goldentrump Jun 28 '26
How can I make this about the rune
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u/w00ms Jun 28 '26
deltarunes humor is so absurdist you can make anything about the rune
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u/shadow_fen you should join r/goldentrump Jun 28 '26
This is true. I can't even see pink and yellow normally anymore
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u/do_not1 Jun 28 '26
Papyrus isn't even in deltarune
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u/shadow_fen you should join r/goldentrump Jun 28 '26
he's the knight tho
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u/JohnDragonball Son Goku Himself Jun 28 '26
What's really funny is that C5 hard debunked even the most miniscule chance of Papyrus being the Knight so now it's 10x more of a crack theory than it was before
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u/kartblaster i can't believe it's gotten even worse Jun 28 '26
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u/BHMathers [REDACTED] Jun 28 '26
Who would’ve thought that the act of archiving information would be pro-information
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u/Legomarioboy08 Unfunny idiot :3c Jun 28 '26
If we’re banning owners from their sites can we ban Elon from Twitter and Huffman from Reddit?
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u/jamieT97 Jun 28 '26
He left in 2002, founder is very much stretching things
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u/ClassicNatural3108 Jun 28 '26
Founder sounds like foundry. Foundry is the name of a tank in Arras io's arms race gamemode that upgrades from spawner as a tier 4 tank. This is an arras io reference
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u/C0nfusedRabbit Jun 28 '26
A founder is who creates the initial product, how is it stretching things?
He might not be part of wikipedia now, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a founder.
And if we said everyone who leaves a company isn't a founder, we'd probably have no founders for things like Nvidia or intel.
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u/AltDetom555555b Donald "SCP-CIA" J. Trump Jun 28 '26
Well he did co-create Wikipedia, but he left 1 year after so it's more like if Musk was banned from PayPal or ChatGPT
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u/referentialisticness Jun 28 '26
Don't ever call Larry Sanger "the founder" of Wikipedia. He's barely a co-founder.
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u/EGJetter Jun 28 '26
Judging from the edits attempted, you can see that he tried to add criticism to how Germany conducted it's laws in regards to Anti-Nazism and questioned the existence of a page about Gaza.
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u/neverreallyhereatall Jun 28 '26
Didn't the creator of garys mod (gary) just get banned from his own game forum too???? What is happening lmao
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u/HandsomeGengar Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
the founder of Wikipedia
Calling Larry Sanger a co-founder at this point is generous, he was involved with Wikipedia for just 14 months in 2001 and 2002. Calling him 'the founder' is just straight up wrong. Either way, I think it's highly disrespectful to Jimbo Wales to imply that other fucker deserves equal credit.
One of these two men has dedicated the last 25 years of his life to making Wikipedia the most comprehensive, well maintained, and generally accurate publicly accessible aggregator of information that has ever existed in human history; the other one coined the name "Wikipedia", which to my knowledge is the only very notable contribution he has made to Wikipedia as it stands today, and he has spent the last two decades complaining about Wikipedia and using his clout as a technical co-founder to help push his narratives. These people do not deserve to be spoken about in the same breath.
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u/C0nfusedRabbit Jun 28 '26
If he was there at the start, he is a founder; just because you don't like someone does not mean you should ignore definitions. I get that you want to downplay his contributions because of your personal distaste for him, but there is much more you can attack him for without resorting to making it look like you don't know what you're talking about.
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u/Ishigami_Yu_ Jun 28 '26
But the comment you're replying to has not mentioned anything that was false, Hank Green has a great video about this.
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u/C0nfusedRabbit Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
Even Hank Green explicitly calls Larry Sanger a co-founder of Wikipedia, and so even Hank Green is saying Larry is a founder.
The only way your logic works is if you try to argue that a "co-founder" is not actually a "founder", which is ridiculous. They are both founders.
I mean what exactly do you think you're gaining by lying about history? It's just delusional.
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u/DejongBCN Jun 28 '26
He just needs to start a new website called Magapedopedia.com and he can write all the truth what the world is missing.
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u/TheTreeDemoknight Jun 28 '26
Co founder, and he left the dev team months after the site was created
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u/omg_its_spons Jun 28 '26
Good, Wikipedia is meant to have no lean to any political or religious beliefs and is meant to be equal for all and if it means kicking out the creator to keep it that way then so be it
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u/SmegmaUnicorn Jun 28 '26
Again, posts like this frame the incident in an incredibly dishonest way. There’s no need to misrepresent what happened for your meme.
And then people take stuff like this at face value and spread it. It’s annoying and disingenuous and needs to stop.
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u/Normal_Ad7101 Jun 28 '26
Wasn't that the guy that screeched that the gospels weren't considered as reliable historic document ?
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u/the_orange_alligator Trans-Masc Himbo 😀 Jun 28 '26
Imagine he starts becoming an editor for conservepedia
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u/Grzechoooo blue like an EPIC strawberry Jun 28 '26
I think it's disingenuous to call Wikipedia "his own site" when really the only thing he contributed to it is the name and he hasn't been involved with it for over two decades (having left after just a year).
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u/PlusWarning6952 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26
Delete! Delete! Deleeeeeeeeete!
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u/shadow_fen you should join r/goldentrump Jul 01 '26
im uh quoting death note here
which is where the gif comes from
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u/Supaian4562 Jul 03 '26
What did he do??? I haven’t used wikipedia in a looooongggg time. I’ve heard that he got banned for making some changes?
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u/Truly_Tacidius Jun 28 '26
*CO-Founder
At least the other guy, Jimmy seems to have his head screwed on a good bit tighter than this nutcase.
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u/TxM_2404 Jun 28 '26
Delete! Delete! Deleeeeeeeeete!
As far as I remember that was the catchphrase of another character from that anime and has nothing to do with the scene you're showing here.
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u/JustcallmeKai Jun 28 '26
Its a stretch to even call him a founder, sure he was there but he left Wikipedia before it even got popular
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u/KojiroHeracles Jun 29 '26
Really? Wonderful! Hope he seethes! America will NEVER be a Christian nation. America will NEVER destroy the concept of trans people. Science denialism will NEVER be the law of the land.
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u/Assassin-49 Jun 29 '26
As far as im aware it was the other way around. He got fired for trying to change some weird American history. I cant remember what it was. I think it was because he tried saying america lost a war with iraq or Iran or something like that. The general area where all the usual wars happen. I dunno though
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