Give yourself a goal, whenever I play I usually give myself some sort of goal to strive for. Like making cool base/village, digging a chunk or making a zoo.
Then wander! Don't set up a solid, permanent base. Try just wandering the world, setting up little temporary outposts every once in a while if you find something interesting.
Sometimes the world can make some really interesting generation.
Or a book with coordinates if you use those. Thats what I do, got a book in game with coordinates to ocean monuments, ancient cities, home... Whatever really. BUT I also keep the important stuff in my notes app on my phone just in case.
iāve not played in a few years and me and my partner started up a new playthrough since itās her first time, expert mode and i feel so washed. i donāt remember skeletron being this difficult š
iāve beaten expert mode before, without tons of issue. the only boss i ever really struggle with is plantera, and expert golem i remember was annoying. i know i can do it, i just feel like im washed, but my partner hasnāt ever done it before either. gonna try again in a couple days when either of us aināt working but opening the dungeon gives us the best accessories we can get pre hardmode/potentially the whole game (specifically talking about the cobalt shield here)
Skeletron is a bit of a difficulty spike in expert mode. Even with the added damage and new AI, you can kind of tank through the other bosses. Skeletron you really canāt. The spinning skull attack does too much damage and leaves you with status effects, and if you get hit once you canāt really escape from the rest of the hits. When expert mode was new I recall it being a bit of a wall for me.
i played expert mode exclusively for a good amount of time, and donāt remember him being so much of a challenge. i think i just kinda forgot. but i remember golem in expert mode feeling harder but plantera for me is the one boss i always struggle against
Always unfinished, itās a GTNH situation in that it is an eternal passion project. It is absolutely a full modpack. The only thing that ever stood out to me is the quest book having some empty chapters
'Completing' Factorio is not unachievable. I'd argue this sentiment is more due to the type of players that gravitate to the game and their lack of contentment with the systems they used to complete it. You can always make something more efficient. Then again there are similarities to Minecraft where arbitrary goals arise from the game systems themselves. 'I want to be able to produce 100 science per minute' or 'I want to be able to manufactire a nuclear reactor in the space of a bread box'.
You gotta make your own checklist. Get a ton of vanilla+ mods to make the basegame feel more complete. Think Alexs Mobs, Alexs Caves, L_Enders Cataclysm, BetterEnd, BetterNether, Mowzies Mobs, Backwoods etc. then make a google doc. Write down "Early Game" "Mid Game" "Late Game" "Post Game" and then start writing goals under each one like a bucket list. Stuff like items you wanna get, builds you wanna make, mobs you wanna tame, structures you wanna discover etc.
Also get a friend using Essential mod. This becomes infinitely more fun if youve got atleast one person with you.
I was the exact same way as you until I did all these steps and now I feel satisfied and im actually having fun with survival for the first time ever.
But it takes diamonds to make an enchanting table and why would I want to waste my levels on an iron anything that's gonna break in an hour or so anyhow?
I agree and I'm agreeing with you. I was just posting a rebuttal to the idea that enchanting and potions are meant to get you through from iron to diamond rather than coming after you get diamonds.
To be fair to that guy. Iād much rather use copper equipment against the horde of creepers squatting outside my house than the stuff I actually care about.
The problem is that you go from wood to stone to iron tools in less than 10 minutes, full iron stuff and maybe a diamond pick in about an hour.
Then it's a massive time sink to get further because you need dozens of diamonds for armor, tons of xp for enchantments and lots of work to get full netherite, and if you want to enchant it all without setting up an afk XP farm you could be playing for weeks.
And then what? Fight the ender dragon? Anything above iron is overkill for that. I love Minecraft but the progression in vanilla has been terribly paced for pretty much the entire games lifespan.
Too long until next stage? You can get full diamond in less than 5 hours. I thought the point here was that progression happens so quickly it all feels pointless..
That's because you know how to get there. You know what level to look in, how to avoid the monsters, how to get fortune in 30 minutes. It's so badly designed it manages to be irrelevant for experienced players and grossly difficult and tedious for inexperienced players, it truly serves nobody.
Not really? Ever since caves and cliffs diamonds have become SUPER easy to stumble upon while caving casually. Hell, I sometimes happen upon diamonds before I even have iron tools.
Whenever they made the change that lowered the Y axis into negative numbers was the point I felt getting diamonds became just fucking annoying. You have to go so deep underground to get them that it's now a chore to do so via just exploring caves, and strip mining is tedious because deepslate takes ages to mine through.
Nowadays it's a case that I will get just enough diamonds to get an enchanting table and rely on iron gear until I can get a fortune pickaxe. Then, once I have the fortune pick and can get some pickaxes with efficiency to speed up deepslate mining I will strip mine for diamonds. The issue now is by doing this I get enough diamonds in one hit to not really have to go and do it again. So I've gone from 0 - 100
I get why they made the change, it has made it more work and more of a challenge but equally it's just not fun or satisfying. The first time I get diamonds in a new world it's like thank god for that, now I can get out of being 150 blocks below the surface. Then the next time I go looking for them I find a few veins and I get enough to sort me out for ages.
If anything I would want the progression to take longer, like an hour in to starting a new world with friends we usually would start getting diamonds so we install mods to slow us down hella
Randomly reinstalled FTB app and decided to try StoneBlock 4 yesterday. Didn't watch any lets plays, nobody influenced me to try it. I have no idea where this will lead but I love that the quest system is guiding me along as I figure it out. Was watching Pluribus on the other monitor while playing and I'm excited to play more today.
In later version, I've found diamonds before iron with underwater caves... now Netherite and Elytra is too far away cuz I forget that it's a game and just waltz to a ton of cave systems, mineshafts, and building artificial surface land based on MC Legacy tutorial worlds.
Piglins are the best thing mojang has added for progression in a long time and it aint even close, like wym i can get ender pearls, arrows, and fire resistance for gold
I just really like the first 10 or so hours of the game loop lol. sometimes I'll spend hours making new worlds just to see the terrain gen looking for that perfect spot for a base.ā
I was there in the first 4chan thread, have multiple server instances that I self-host to play with my kids. Still play it to this day (mostly quick Hypixel games with the kids these days), but still have never even attempted to beat the ender dragon.
Received Minecraft in 2013 and I also have never beaten the ender dragon. I still remember when they added zombies to PE for the first time... I kept running up to them, thinking they were other players haha.
I went on a trip to find the ender portal using the ender pearl. I kept following the pearls until they started leading me into the ground. Then I dug to bedrock and found absolutely nothing and just never bothered again.
The flame in the flood fixes this for me
It forces your base to be small and constantly moving forward so you can never reach a "ill just go lick my wounds at home" state of gameplay
Works really well when played as a single long run too
This is me with factorio after you get flying bots.
I love belts and arms so much. My buddy and I played a game together and once we got to the flying bot part it just sucked all the joy of organizing belts out of the game. I kept building belts anyway but it felt so unnecessary once I saw a bajillion bots unload a train.
I'm a step further even below that, but with Satisfactory. I love the early game but i dropped it when it was time to actually satis my factory
That's why Once Human and Palworld were the only survival-crafting games i've enjoyed. Automated bases where automation is solved by throwing a creature and they will do everything while i can play the actual game
I know nostalgia's a strong force, but don't let it keep you from trying something new you might enjoy
Iron and Steel are the top of VS's tool tiers, with finding and refining metals being a much more involved and delibirate process than simply spelunking and dumping ore into a furnace. The crafting and building mechanics have more depth and feel like part of the world, too!
Modding is also suuuuper easy, with mods from the website's official database installing seamlessly into the game's in-built mod manager. You can do a LOT to grind a little bit of tedium off of some more annoying systems, or totally overhaul other ones. SmithingPlus is a personal favorite.
Honestly, I think I stick with Minecraft solely for nostalgia, it's the strongest game I have this for, all the ones from my childhood I still replay because they're fun
But in Minecraft? I go to creative to remake the same things I did in the past and begrudgingly use concrete because it's way better than wool despite the fact I used wool back then
As someone who grew up with minecraft as well, you really need to get out there and try other stuff. Don't let yourself be trapped by nostalgia. Minecraft will still be there.
I really don't think Hytale is that great of alternative to people with these complaints about minecraft. It follows the same kind of progression, it just has a more combat focused gameplay loop, kinda similar to Valheim imo. Vintage Story on the other hand progression is more tied to your resource security and meeting shelter need, and theres constant environmental pressure. Material progression is just one of many ways you can advance and usually secondary to securing food and warmth.
Datapacks are built into minecraft as a way to modify existing game data, like changing textures, recipes, mob behaviour, item durabilities, enchantments and what they do, block interactions etc.
Plugins require a plugin loader and mainly change commands, and in-world restrictions so like, an authenticator plugin, grief prevention, restored skins for cracked players, etc.
Mods are Java code injected directly into the Minecraft game source code using a mod loader (2 so famous that literally no one uses anything else: Fabric and Forge) and these are able to add entirely new content, aside from being able to modify base content; that's why some fabric server mods are vanilla compatible.
And every data pack can be wrapped in a mod, so you donāt have to enable it every time you create a new world, and you wonāt get experimental features warning every time you open your world.
A datapack is essentially something that is building on top of the already existing Minecraft game, so using stuff like commands and resource packs to create something new.
A mod does the same thing, but can also write it's own stuff that's completely unrelated to the base game in Java.
For example, you can add items texture and whatever using a datapack, but using a mod you can for example add a block that allows you to connect to the real internet, which is not something base Minecraft allows.
A modpack is a collection of mods, typically configured to work together.
My biggest problem is hating inventory management.
Either I play creative, build one thing, and get bored because there's no stakes...
or I play survival and then get sick of making chests to store shit I'll never need while never being able to get enough of what I want. Maybe make it to the nether. Never to the end. Get bored and by the time I go to play it's a new patch and I don't want to refresh mods and it ends up another year later.
I mean hey, this mod does kind of have the perfect solution for that. It introduces shulkers early game. Just 9 leather and a chest for a shulker. I'd say that's pretty good
Matcha flavored gives you shulkers in the early game and lets you combine tools so they take up less space in your hotbar. In the video he made for it, he has a section talking about inventory management and how he addresses it.
"Several hours" is an understatement. Especially for a first playthrough.
Getting to copper is "several hours" even if you know what you are doing. Like 2-4 hours (You have to find a place to settle, a good amount of food, storage space, make a kiln and a crucible and let it fire etc before you can even think about searching or panning for it) if you know, 5-10 if you don't.
Getting bronze can be a lot more than that depending on how lucky your hunt for tin is.
Getting iron after that is a proper journey.
Think we reached 70 hours played, in co op, before getting iron tools on our first playthrough.
I put in like 60 hours in my personal world so far and I'm still just on bronze. But my farm is huge and beautiful and my cellar is full of pies and soups so life is good.
And tbh having a huge and beautiful farm is actually more important than getting iron in this game anyway. And I say this as someone who has steel in my main world lmao
It's my biggest complaint about the game. There is no real reason to do anything. I understand it's a sandbox but people aren't intrinsically motivated simple as. If we were there wouldn't be such a meme about a multiplayer server with friends that dies within a week.
There is no real reason to explore, there is no real reason to interact with half the mechanics in the game. No real reason to make half the blocks.
Minecraft has never really "evolved" from its core indie roots imo. So much of the progression and iconography is sacred to the fan base and gaming. Mojang has dug a hole for itself and can only provide incremental variations to the gameplay loop or add things that sidestep the OG content entirely.
Minecraft was never meant to be a huge live service project spanning decades, it was originally just a passion project stemming from one depressed Swedish guy that blew up.
I always get such a tonal whiplash playing the game versus experiencing any media outside of it. The game always gets me in a melancholic, bittersweet mood. Then I see ads for the newest crossover/remember the movie/story mode and its just so jarring.
The best adaption of Minecraft has to be Steve in Smash Bros. He is a silent protagonist yet is intentionally aloof and self preserving. His characterization is cheeky but not outright malicious.
Once I realize any game's artificial rewards and grinding are a thin veil, I turn towards creativity, competition, socializing, etc. I don't care to be the millionth person to get some achievement if the path wasn't fun, so i set my own goals and reasons to play.
Havent started up MC once since i got it. Only reason i keep it about is because i got some ridiculous survival builds like a tower with solid gold roof on it.
Thats kinda why I've been addicted to Modded MC for a while now.
Though, if I wanna wind down I'd hop onto a server with my friends and just build.
In summary, Modded MC is where I like to Grind, Get stronger and fight bosses. Vanilla (and some (actually good) Vanilla+ packs) is where I just like to build and wind down.
In almost every Minecraft world I create, after getting wood and tools I build a house and then immediately start digging around it for the length of about 20 chunks and the width of 10. Then I mine until I find everything I want - coal, gold, iron, etc. On my current world I stopped for the time being because I decided my house was insufficient and started building a new house out of cobblestone, which means that I first need to take down the giant monolith of cobblestone that's up to the build limit made from all the excess cobblestone I collected from The Hole
I'm only ever having fun after I get the elytras, full enchanted netherite and a steady supply of good food, everything before is just the grind that makes it worth it.
That's why I started playing story/goal driven mods. More to look forward to that just the regular progression _. If I had to recommend one it would be Corsair: The Seven Treasures with projectmmo disabled.
I turned on keep inventory and things has been looking better. I'm not restarting to strip mine for another 4 hours just because my diamond gear got dropped into the lava.
I used to spend literally months looking for diamonds very slowly in my survival solo worlds and I ended up making multiple bases. Bridges that connected plateaus in the Savanah. Built a simple Redstone crop harvester.
I've even playing Minecraft 10 years and I only started playing survival last year, still have yet to actually get netherite or anything, still fun thoughĀ
Get a very stupid and long goal and the 2 week minecraft phase will turn into 2 years. My ass decided to build an enter the gungeon homage at the start of last year and I'm only now getting kinda close to finishing floor 2 of 5 (they are very big).
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