r/wolves 1d ago

Video Wolf or not a wolf?

My dad thinks it’s a wolf, but I think it’s more likely to be like a black coyote or something. Looks too small and skinny to be a gray wolf. This was out in Stanley, Idaho.

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u/Proud-Tooth-630 1d ago

Wolves are skinny, the color looks like that of many Wolves in North America and the head look heavy for a Coyote.

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u/Low_Show_6684 22h ago

I’ll raise that some German shepherds have the sable coat color, which is similar to that of a wolf. The ears on this animal look too pointed and large to be a wolf imo, it does look more like my own sable GSD especially in build. Wolves are like 90% leg imo, at least that’s how I tell them apart from coyotes when they run across the highway. The legs are the first give away for me in the summer, in the winter it’s the ears. 

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u/erossthescienceboss 22h ago

I’m seeing dog here too.

It’s funny OP thinks it looks too skinny to be a wolf, cos I think it actually looks too bulky.

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u/Low_Show_6684 22h ago

Yeah. I live in NE MN, wolves are frequent occurrence for me at work. I actually see more wolves and wolf sign than I do bears or moose. The packs are very active up here.

They are freakishly taller and skinny than I think anybody would expect. It makes sense when you consider they chase prey down for a long time. They need those long legs and lithe builds to keep up with prey. But every time I see a wolf I’m just like “damnnnnn look at you legs!”. I basically can tell who’s who based on legs and ears from a mile away at this point.

Edit: I also have a large GSD whose aunts look just like this canine. She herself has been called a wolf by people- which is why she goes out in the woods with a big orange vest on.

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u/erossthescienceboss 21h ago

Yes!! “Damn, look at those legs indeed.” For me, the stilts are always the first thing I notice.

And once you’ve seen a wolf run… you’ll never mistake a dog for a wolf. It’s mindblowing how effortlessly they move for something so large. This one doesn’t have that floating kind of grace.

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u/Low_Show_6684 21h ago

They really do move effortlessly don’t they? When they clear snowbanks or logs it’s like it takes nothing for them to do that. Just another Sunday jog.

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u/Proud-Tooth-630 16h ago

The grass hide most of the legs and the head looks larger in proportion to the body compared to most dogs. I think it’s more likely a Wolf than a Dog, definitely not a Coyote.

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u/BigNorseWolf 1d ago

I think that might actually be a wolf. First time for everything....

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u/CGW6Actual 1d ago

Yep, I'm going with wolf as well on that sighting

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u/Daisydoolittle 13h ago

hi! i work in dog rescue - that’s a dog.

coydogs, coywolves and wolf dogs do exist so id be open to the possibility that this is some bizarre and uncommon hybrid but it’s more likely someone’s lost of dumped german shepherd sable coat mix

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u/xoagray 1d ago

I'm going to say that's a dog. There are a few things about the appearance that don't fit wolf for me, the ears and tail seem wrong, the body shape is a little off. Looks more like a German Shepard mix to me.

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u/Low_Show_6684 22h ago

GSD owner and living in the area with the second largest populations in the US outside of Alaska. I’ve seen many wolves when I’m at work, this doesn’t quite look like a wolf to me either.

Their ears are shorter than that, they have long ass legs, and short straight tails, and imo it’s got quite a plush coat for this time of the year. My wolves look like gangly cryptids running around right now.

This canine has that saber-like shape to the tail that GSDs are bred to have, it’s not straight there is that slight curve- the tail is also more in line with the length of a GSD as well. The ears once I looked again were the biggest giveaway, big and tall. GSDs have larger, taller, and more pointed ears much like this animal. Plus maybe it’s just me, but the more I think about it and maybe this is just me, it’s holding its ears back like a GSD. All the wolves I’ve seen hold their ears more forward facing when they run, this looks like my girl when we’re hiking. She loves to hold her ears back to hear me. Then the coat, this is likely a sable coated GSD just looking at it. The coat looks more uniform in color than I see with my wolves, and darker too. 

The more I watch this the more I think someone’s working GSD got loose.

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u/ceraunophiliacc 1d ago

I've only seen one in person before but I felt that way too. Was really frustrating not to be able to see the legs but still, probably not a wolf I guess.

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u/olioili 1d ago

Really? How odd,, Ive seen many dogs in person, I thought everyone did

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u/ceraunophiliacc 1d ago

I'm a bit sheltered 🤭

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u/RMMacFru 1d ago

Thanks. Former GSD owner and it looks the same to me. Ears are too big for a wolf. It's also not moving as I've seen coyotes do. I vote dog. Probably a GSD mix.

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u/Due_Barber_525 23h ago

I vote dog also from the way it runs

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u/erossthescienceboss 22h ago

Yeah, the gait is way too heavy for a wolf. It’s stocky and strong.

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u/lowlightliving 3h ago

I also saw that. That’s a dog running. Wolves aren’t that bouncy, their run is very streamlined and efficient. The ears are also all wrong for a wolf. It’s a GSD or GSD mix.

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u/Due_Barber_525 2h ago

Yes the head is wrong for a wolf, the ears, and the gait. Wolves lope elegantly they don’t run like this - this animal runs like my dog and has a head like my dog.

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u/kbabykk 13h ago

Even the way it moves is more like a dog.

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u/namedawesome 20h ago

thats someones dogs that got loose

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u/Due_Barber_525 19h ago

100% no doubt in my mind

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u/Adventurous_Half7643 1d ago

Coyotes typically have big ears in comparison to their heads, whereas wolves have the opposite (smaller ears in comparison to the head). Coyotes also have much bushier tails. I'm going to say that this is a wolf.

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u/Marylin-Hawthorne 1d ago

"This was out in Stanley, Idaho."

You're just thirty miles northwest of where one of the first wolf packs in Idaho formed back in 1996.

And just twelve more miles north, there's Dagger Falls. Where twenty wolves were released, also in 1996.

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u/Wolf_Ape 1d ago

That looks like a dog. The ears are a bit too big and pointy, slightly barrel chested, and it’s holding its tail wrong.

It’s hard to quantify, but everything about the way it moves looks like it’s a dog on an adventure, as opposed to a wolf on a mission.

The way it’s regarding the humans also seems too familiar. It’s cautious of strangers, but not ready to rule out the possibility that the vehicle could contain the humans that it knows.

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u/Lala5789880 1d ago

This does not look skinny to me. Dog?

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u/Low_Show_6684 22h ago

I’m going with German shepherd mix, or just straight German shepherd. The ears, the body, the tail, the coat color. All of it looks more in line with a GSD the more I watch than a wolf.

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u/erossthescienceboss 22h ago

Agreed. Way too bulky for a wolf.

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u/Few_Ice5831 1d ago

my fiance and i saw a similar color wolf right outside of landmark/warm lake running right down a service trail in front of us. lots of known wolves in the area & that long, quick gait says wolf to me!! they are such leggy critters, it’s crazy in person.

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u/Ephemeral_Orchid 1d ago

I've lived near Yellowstone for decades and see plenty of both animals regularly. The vegetation in this field is around 20-24 in high.

I also showed Great Danes in conformation for many years, and the gray wolves in our area are the about the same height as a Dane, 30 inches at the shoulder. Although our coyotes are the largest in the US, they're still only around 18 in. at the shoulder.

Therefore, this animal is far too tall to be a coyote or most dog breeds, it's a grey wolf.

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u/billy-suttree 1d ago

Thats a wolf alright

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u/EstevanOlvera13 18h ago

I don't think it neither I think it could be a Shepherd? Which type of Shepherd I don't know it's too far away to see also the cows in the video are not scared of it.

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u/Key-Head-1391 2h ago

I feel like no one is factoring in the athleticism into their answer. Just by how much land alone the animal covered with minimal effort, taking the time to scan the area, I would say it’s a wolf. For (most) dogs or coyotes to be moving this fast for this long they would be pretty exhausted by the end but it kept going.

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u/No-Weird-4201 1d ago

Wow maybe this time it's an actual wolf

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u/Pretend-Platypus-334 21h ago

Melanistic coyotes are extremely rare out west, only really in areas where they can admix with dogs in urban settings, so definitely has to be a wolf.

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u/Low_Show_6684 21h ago

I’m running on it’s a dog honestly. Doesn’t quite move or look like a wolf in the body structure or ears.

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u/Pretend-Platypus-334 20h ago

It’s to far to tell accurate ear shape. I’ve seen plenty of wild wolves move in a “lope” gate.

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u/Low_Show_6684 20h ago

I’ve also seen plenty of wild wolves. The ears on them I can see from a distance, the ears on this are larger, closer together, and taller more like a coyote or shepherd. The tail also has a saber-like curve to it which is also common in shepherds. It’s also pretty stocky for a wolf imo.

It just doesn’t quite look like a wolf to me. Even a melanistic one. 

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u/Then_Scarcity_449 1d ago edited 7h ago

I say wolf since this was taken in Idaho

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u/MythicalFoxfish 1d ago

"This was out in Stanley, Idaho."

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u/Marylin-Hawthorne 1d ago

Smack in the middle of Idaho wolf country.

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u/Glittering-Sign-7941 1d ago

it looks like a wolf to me!

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u/ToxicFox27 22h ago

“Wait, that’s a WOLF?!”
“That is a WOOF, my friend!”

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u/canisedwardii 22h ago

Modern grey wolves come in many shades and colors ! Very likely a grey wolf or even possibly a wolfdog(though this isn’t as likely!)

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u/checkersthecat123 1d ago

I’ve been there

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u/OkSubject1876 21h ago

Kinda runs like a coyote - beautiful either way.

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u/tombrady011235 19h ago

It’s a woof woof

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u/thehorrorcontinues13 23h ago

Young wolf. The head is too big for a coyote.

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u/Flimsy_Scratch_8050 23h ago

I think wolf cuz it knew where it was going. It was trying to get from A to B. Wasn’t in hunting mode or hungry. Knew humans were watching it and the difference between hostile and non hostile land. It felt comfortable enough to travel on yours. If it were a lost dog it would’ve gotten curious about a smell and start to loiter. This pup, didn’t. Pup on a mission 🤘🏻🥰

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u/Visible-Echidna-4370 23h ago

too blurry for me to have any idea

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u/Boarf_ 1d ago

Could be a coywolf. We have those up where I live.

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u/BigNorseWolf 1d ago

A lot rarer out west, the coyotes there are teechy.