r/worldnews • u/novirim • 6h ago
Russia/Ukraine Germany blames Russia for attempted airport drone attack
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-says-russia-behind-attempted-drone-attack-at-leipzig-airport/a-78584589?mobileApp=true160
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u/bulbusmaximus 6h ago
You know what you got to do Germany.
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u/ErgoMachina 5h ago
They are forming the committee that will choose the member of the committee in charge of dealing with this...
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u/dimwalker 5h ago
They do, but somewhat lagging behind - it's nice they are calling for tougher sanctions on russia and their shadow fleet, but it took a direct attack.
Oh, and so far it's just a declaration of intent. Nothing happened yet as I understand.3
u/PositiveUse 4h ago
We closed a cultural „Russian House“ in Berlin.
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u/useless-engineer420 1h ago
We Finally did? Finally! I don't get how this FSB hub was allowed to operate so long
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u/jpw0w 1h ago
it says it's still open on Google. lol
edit: it's definitely still open. article from few weeks ago
https://berlin.t-online.de/region/berlin/id_101382832/russisches-haus-in-berlin-bleibt-geoeffnet-trotz-vorwuerfen.html1
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u/wellmaybe_ 6h ago
watch them do nothing in response to not escalate
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u/valdecsgo 5h ago
Well they did a very SEVERE reaction this time:
Closed a consulate.
Ended the Berlin Russia-House deal.
Asked the ambassador in for a meeting.
That'll show them to not send any more explosive drones, such severe consequences.
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u/PositiveUse 4h ago
Issue is not only that Germany‘s government is too weak for that BUT this would be political suicide in the current German climate. There are major federal elections where the far right is already subject to win the majority of the seats… this can break the current government this fall …
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u/Doro_Gurl 3h ago edited 2h ago
I believe the opposite. Being tough on russia and for once standing up to the agressor in no uncertain terms would gain Merz lots of political capital. The current voter split in Germany is mostly due to the conservative CxU parties basically saying: "AFD IS RIGHT (pwease vote for us anyway 👉👈)".
A wise leader would use this occassion to set a contrast to them. But Merz being Merz he will certainly fumble it and probably insult some group of people in the process.
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u/Great_Lingonberry148 4h ago
It’s political suicide to respond with weakness. If the German government will not defend itself, then the far right will deserve those seats.
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u/PositiveUse 1h ago
So you see, it’s a lose lose, the far right will win and will stop all Ukraine support , because they are Russia and Putin loyalists
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u/SheikhJayidLeno 5h ago
You should go volunteer for the Ukrainian Foreign Legion.
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u/DaveMitnick 5h ago
Nope. I am in Croatia at the beach and half of the men are Ukrainian. They go first.
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u/Scifi_fans 5h ago
Lol, weak societies eventually have to face situations... the more you coward around the worse it gets...
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u/SilverFox6 5h ago
What makes this a "hybrid" attack instead of just an outright attack from Russia?
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u/ClutchReverie 6h ago
So does the US CIA director that flew to Russia just to tell them to fuck off with this kind of thing
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u/MaxiP4567 6h ago
You think the current US-Administration, or at least Trump, care about what the Russians do?
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u/canalhistoria 6h ago
Good, Putin needs to understand that if he pushes too much, Germany can trigger Article 5.
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u/Impulse3 5h ago
I mean if this ended up working, wouldn’t that be article 5?
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u/HighOverlordXenu 5h ago
You forget that NATO, especially Europe (though probably moreso the US under the current administration, admittedly), desperately wants to avoid invoking Article 5 if there's any other option.
Yes, Russia's conventional military is depleted and was mostly a paper tiger even beforehand. That's not what is important. Europe doesn't want a war. The white house doesn't want a war. Anything less than outright invasion of a member state is not going to result in war.
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u/romario77 5h ago
Invoking article 5 means gathering for consultations. It doesn’t mean declaring war.
Even if invoked I doubt anything will come out of it besides some talking and finger waving.
Maybe another 1-2 companies under “sanctions “.
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u/HighOverlordXenu 4h ago
Eh, there's what Article 5 actually does and then there's what the general public thinks Article 5 does.
If a NATO nation invokes Art 5 in response to a nuclear power, people are going to go into panic mode and potentially tank the economy before the leaders even say two words.
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u/itszaidbtw 4h ago
you need to say "world war" not just war because the white house 100% wants wars.
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u/HighOverlordXenu 4h ago
The white house doesn't want a war with Russia.
(Apparently they'd rather get our asses kicked by fucking Iran)
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u/itszaidbtw 4h ago
We arent getting our asses kicked. USA just doesnt want to blow everything up because then there is no money to be made there. Also doesnt want to send boots on ground because that would lose American lives and even Trump knows he will be hated completely if he goes full scale invasion.
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u/RagipMullat21 3h ago
Honestly at this point it feels like Russia's just testing what they can get away with before things escalate further, which is somehow more unsettling than an actual coordinated attack.
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u/wrathful-anus 6h ago
Time for operation Barbarossa II
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u/Ruashiba 5h ago
Good! Thank you for pointing out the obvious, of course it was the russians.
Now, what are you gonna do about it?
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u/gilgermesch 1h ago
Germany cannot officially call it a "State of Defense" ("Verteidigungsfall") unless 2/3 of parliament agree. Two parties in the German parliament, the extreme right AfD, and the socialist Die Linke, are blaming the west for Russia's aggressiveness and unlikely to ever vote to have the State of Defense declared if the aggressor is identified as Russia. Added up, their seats make up for more than 1/3 of the seats in the parliament.
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u/VieuxBidule 1h ago
En effet. La gauche allemande, comme d'ailleurs la gauche européenne en général cautionne depuis une décennie la dictature russe. Elle participe à la domination de l'extrême droite européenne pro russe. C'est une facture qu'il faudra payer un jour. Et c'est l'extrême droite une fois au pouvoir qui tiendra la banque.
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u/ronweasleisourking 5h ago
"We strongly denounce blah blah no actions will be taken blah blah blah rabble rabble"
Go ahead and do something or fuck off like everyone else, Germany
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u/VieuxBidule 1h ago
Oui. Bon, en fait, c'est juste une attaque terroriste directe. Il n'y a rien d'hybride dans cette histoire.
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u/Fischfrikadelle0803 6h ago
Omg the russians again, at first they the destroy the northstream pipeline oops sry I mean it was ukraine and now this... it must be the russians
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u/AMW1987 6h ago
Yeah, because Putin's Russia definitely hasn't attacked Europe at all before, has it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_sabotage_operations_in_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Sergei_and_Yulia_Skripal
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u/RandomLegend 3h ago
So your theory is that Ukraine tried to blow up a plane delivering weapons to Ukraine? You Russian losers get dumber by the day.
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u/ResponsibleLiving577 6h ago edited 6h ago
It's not only Germany but several intelligence agencies from different countries as well.