Idk, I think Runescape being the one of the only MMORPGs where you can easily and meaningfully AFK different skills is one of the things that sets it apart from any other game, in a positive way.
its so low resources you can deadass have it as a little box on your screen and do something extremely inefficient but feel dopamine anyway. Its absolutely a point in the games favour - it boosts membership and that helps fund jagex for us active players.
Yeah, I dont think that the game needs to have 0 afk methods. Having something u can throw on the second monitor is nice. Its simply that people always want more, especially on this sub
Yeah don't get me wrong, I do understand what you're saying. If a lot of folks had it their way, there would be a 750k xp/hr AFK training method for every skill. And a part of me does miss a time when more folks would actively play the game, often for less experience, simply because it was fun (2010 f2p Clan Wars on w141, my beloved)
Yeah. I think that having a handful of afk methods over the entire game is fair, its just that its becoming oversaturated, and people just keep asking for more.
I might be reaching, but he might be saying there are too many very strong afk methods nowadays. Back in the day, woodcutting yews was afk and the trees would randomly fall. Regular fishing was afk and it wasn't that long that you could actually afk. There was no afk mining or runecraft. Etc. etc.
Nowadays we have 30 minute afk (for really bad xp I know) salvaging, 7 minutes redwood 7 to like 3 minute afk bwans, afk mining methods, zeah rc... stuff like that.
I personally love afk skilling, but I can understand where he's coming from and he might be saying that skilling is becoming very afk
Right, but when methods are as afk as they are, people don't talk nearly as much. Makes the game a little less social which is sad. That's the only bit I don't like.
I will say however, that the conversations in modern day rs are weird as hell most of the time.
skilling sure. Combat on the other hand, was ruined by being able to go to sleep and train for 6 hours in NMZ, as well as things like splashing on a rat for 6 hours. People got 99 all combat stats effortlessly.
He said skilling is oversaturated. Im not talking about skilling. And bossing is a stupid comparison. There are very few bosses that feel anything alike, where every single afk method feels the exact same because it is by definition click and walk away.
The analogy is to something else oversaturated, not to something else afk. Jesus, im sorry your reading comprehension is lackluster but I was able to understand his analogy perfectly fine
So you failed to understand the analogy, then replied to me, not OP, to their analogy, by missing the point of the analogy. Cool. Bossing can be oversaturated without feeling like afk, so your comment misses the point by pretending that it isnt oversaturated BECAUSE its not like afk activities
hahaha smhmh if you talk about afk being "oversaturated" (literally impossible btw) then ofc the actual oversaturated content deserves being bought up.
Okay so in the same breath you say CONTENT A (skilling) cannot be oversaturated but LOOK, CONTENT B (bossing) is!!!!!!111!!!
So which one dawg? You can see content CAN be oversaturated, but your preference is the one that is while the content others say is oevrsaturated simply can't be?
afking cannot be oversaturated because it is completely optional, it is objectively and fully disadvantageous to progression to spend any time on it compared to active alternatives (which there ALWAYS are).
There are no real alternatives to bossing in the endgame, just vast ever-ballooning grind. Hence: oversaturated.
Then why are you here? RS has had overwhelming afk activities since long before Osrs, I remember cutting Ivy in Ardy on RS2. If you think it has deteriorated the game, why would you play it? Unless you dont actually believe this opinion
My point is it was always afk, so if afk methods make it bad, then you enjoy it being bad, and your opinion is meaningless. Its like saying pizza has been deteriorating for 3 decades due to how they make it, yet you still eat pizza multiple times per week because you enjoy how its made.
You gonna claim youve never once engaged in afk methods or was it okay when it benefitted you but bad when it doesnt?
Theyre adding shit like fully afk salvage for 30 minutes lol. I dont care if you could afk chop a tree when I started playing, but since I started the amount of ridiculously strong afk methods has gotten much much higher, and the length of afking gets longer. Thats bad
salvaging being so insanely afk and getting good exp rates and loot on top was really an achillies heel to sailing, sure youd 99 a lot faster doing trials, but youd get nothing out of it except xp. and up until recently youd probably lose more resources than youd gain doing bounty tasks, and courier tasks will continue to be absolutely troll until they finally impliment loot bags from them. so if you didnt like trial laps... you basically only had a skill your actual only option was to afk.
granted, you do have some real incentives to level it regardless, but they dont feel nearly as necessary as say... herblore or crafting, but theres also very few quest requirements attached like mining and woodcutting currently have, and even then mining has amethyst and (now finally) woodcutting has seeker arrows, whilst sailings benefits are more nebulous and mostly restricted to irons.
Thats just your shitty opinion man, you think its bad yet youre still playing, so i cant take you seriously. Its like complaining someone shit in your cereal as youre still eating spoonfuls. You just have a superiority complex and think your way of playing is better than everyone elses, and we dont need elitist gatekeeping thats too ignorant to even understand its always been this way
Thats why i said unpopular opinion. And if someone shit in the cereal I like which happens to be the only bowl of it in existence I would try to clean the shit out and convince people to not shit in it again. Im sorry you would rather give up.
How can you not understand they’re saying a few afk methods for a few skills is fine, but for it to not only apply to all skills but with updates making afk last more than 5 minutes cheapens the journey
Because its not fucking new and it doesnt cheapen anyones journey if they dont want it to. No one forced anyone into afk activities and others doing afk activities literally doesnt affect your play experience. Every afk method is worse xp than active methods, they MIGHT have a point if the afk methods actually invalidated ANY active training method
Imagine thinking having more methods for training ruins a game, I understand what theyre saying, buts its still fucking stupid
Second up, tell me what you could afk in the ivy days… woodcutting, fishing, combat, an inventory of pure ess…? What now? You asked what’s new, I ask you to figure it out yourself
I’d love for there to be varied and competitive methods for all skills. But 7-29.99 minute afk remote desktop tier gameplay for 0.3 ehp/h one click idle simulator bullshit isn’t how the game should be played
It doesnt impact me individually or specifically, but like the other guy said it does deteriorate the quality of the game. Where’s the gratification or sense of accomplishment?
Back in the rs2 peak of 05-07, they’re were basically 0 afk training methods. Even fishing and woodcutting would spam you with dangerous random events if you looked away for 2 minutes.
Idk what ivy is but that must have been a later addition. Don’t think it was in the game when I quit in 08.
So then shouldnt all of you have been saying that its the removal of dangerous randoms that deteriorated the game, not the actual afk methods themselves?
Ivy released 2009, so you must have just missed it.
Yes. Its sort of a moot point nowadays as agility is really the only skill without an afk method (except house agility course) but itr more of like the turbo afk methods like stars and full 30 min afk trawling and salvage that are really unhealthy
I'm not up to date with sailing. But star mining, which maxes out at 30k/h for one click every 7 minutes, seems fine with me, when granite maxes out at 125k/h. More than 4x the xp/h. As long as it doesn't get absurdly afk like 6h nmz or splashing back then...
This? I wouldn’t really call it a crusade when people are asking to revert a change… not even add anything new.
That said, I feel the only thing wrong with Zeah rc is that you can’t chisel multiple essence while running without doing it manually. Having movement cancel that type of action is inconsistent with crafting and fletching.
It’s not reverting a change lmao. It was like that for 2 weeks and then in its current stare for 9 years. Can we also revert the change where tumeken’s shadow accuracy applied to ice barrage?
Mhm, even 1 click every 5 minutes is better then every 7. Trying to compare the afk levels of 2004-7 to now is just stupid. Theyre not even in the same universe
Sorry, I was using being facetious as a thinly veiled attempt to highlight your out of touch opinion likely directly coincides with your unhealthy relationship with this game.
You, much like myself, are browsing the osrs subreddit at work. Perhaps you should reflect on your own relationship with the game if you cannot go 8 hours without it.
Sorry bro, you're not actually allowed to have ethics on this website. You just need to make another post asking for the game to get easier and farm karma like the other 99% of lobotomites on here. Runecraft and Agility to 500k xp/hr! lol!
Yes and no, as someone who absolutely hates afk skilling theres nothing wrong with variety. We just dont need to oversaturate skills with afk stuff and have methods that are active be appropriately rewarding (bloodwood trees are a great example of this)
i mean.. one method is just intended gameplay, the other is exploiting slight bugs/glitches in game mechanics. i wonder which one is more likely to deteriorate the experience accross the game
So you behave just like a redditor but feel your opinions are more special by virtue of being less popular? Therefore you are not "peak reddit", just reddit adjacent? Okay 🤭
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u/Ocarious Jul 28 '26
Unpopular opinion but takes like love afk skilling cause the game to deteriorate.