r/Bayonets • u/ThirteenthFinger • 8h ago
r/Bayonets • u/ThirteenthFinger • Jul 22 '26
Informative Sister Sub - 'FightingKnives'
Hi everyone. We have had a good amount of knife posts in the time we've been around. As was pointed out by a recent poster, there seems to be no sub that's specifically for Fighting Knives. There is a single sub called r/MilitaryKnives, but it seems to be a dead sub from inception. r/Knives is broader and for pocket knives and the like. r/Swords is for swords. r/MilitariaCollecting is great, but it is a very broad and generalized sub.
Therefore, we have decided to start a dedicated sub for fighting knives. We know the bayonet conversions and a few other items, but if you would like to help mod this sub please send us a message about why you want to mod and what you have specific and general knowledge of involving knives.
Our new sister sub is r/FightingKnives. Please give us a visit, post your knives for show or ID, and hopefully join us in helping begin our new community.
Thanks for reading!
- ThirteenthFinger
r/Bayonets • u/ThirteenthFinger • Nov 08 '20
Informative FAQ
Frequently Asked Questions:
(Last Updated April 2026)
Why are bayonets supposed to be dull and not sharp?
Bayonets, depending on the model and type, are almost always issued dull. The tip itself will usually have a sharp or well angled point. So why are bayonets not sharpened? Well, bayonets are meant for thrusting stab motions, not for slashing. In the case of say, a knife or sword, a slashing motion is desired, so the blade itself will tend to be as sharp as possible. Essentially, the weight of a full-grown man thrusting a hard piece of steel into another man's gut is plenty enough PSI (or whatever) to penetrate. However, this would tend to change as knife bayonets began to become more popular. Bayonets by this time were being used less, and thus needed to be used more as a tool. Cutting and slashing may very well be a necessity, especially when using it as a knife for anything from combat to cutting up food. Knife bayonets *can* be sharpened but depending on the model they still are usually still issued dull.
What are the main parts of a bayonet/What is the terminology?
You may find the terminology of the main types of bayonets & their accessories HERE at World Bayonets, which is, essentially, *the* bayonet website. See the links below for other great examples of websites to browse bayonets and learn more.
How can I identify my bayonet(s)?
You can ask on this subreddit and we will most likely have the answer. We use various websites, forums, and above all reference books in order to ID if we are not already very sure. Our mods do our best to provide a confident ID and on many occasionally will provide a source or photo for verification. If we feel we are confident with an ID, our mods will check with our connections. That said, mistakes are occasionally made!
Additionally, if your item is not a bayonet, you will be redirected to an appropriate sub that we feel may be able to ID. Depending on the item, we may leave the post up just in case someone knows.
How can I clean my bayonet without damaging it?
It is not necessary, but cleaning a bayonet is something that is entirely up to the owner. Firstly, most collectors like a patina to their bayonet. At some point in your life, you will most likely resell your bayonets (can't take them with you when you go). Keep in mind that other collectors like to see originality in a bayonet. This means if it looks reworked, refurbished, sharpened etc. then collectors are more likely to not purchase it. But this is not about reworking, it's about cleaning.
Cleaning can be done with a simple mineral oil type spray, a dry non-abrasive cloth, and if absolutely necessary, .0000 steel wool for stubborn surface rust.
You may also use a small amount of shiner such as Wenol in order to shine metal parts. I recommend this vert sparingly. Overshining is a problem in the hobby and can remove finishing.
For leather it is recommended to use PEL leather dressing. This is what British Museums and conservatories often use. Beware of what commercial leather treatments you buy. They may soften the leather and weaken the bond between fibres. A temporary gain in exchange for a longer term issue.
It is also recommended to use Renaissance Wax. It is expensive, but worth it if you are serious. It can be used for leather, wood, metal, and plastic and most items.
How much is my bayonet worth?
We do not appraise bayonets here directly. Our rules state that we do not give monetary values and the reasons why. You MAY ask if you got a good deal or bad deal. You may also comment about what someone paid. You may NOT give an estimate.
That said, the best route to go would be to auction you bayonet on eBay or similar auction site. If you are not sure, search for your type of bayonet and filter to 'Sold/Complete'. You may get an average this way. You may also view the various retail sales sites we have posted.
Collectors are looking for specific markings or types of bayonets most of the time, so prices can vary widely depending on that and, your location, and method of sale. Monetary value is also relative to a collector. One man's trash is another man's treasure, so to speak.
What is a trustworthy place to buy bayonets from?
There are several types of sites you can check out for buying/selling bayonets. There are various bidding sites (big name examples such as Ebay and GunBroker) and there are privately owned sites which cater to the discriminating collector - the rare and expensive items. Here are just a few examples.
Ebay Of course! It's trustworthy....but not too trustworthy. Know that some people are not aware they are selling a fake or reproduction. And also, some are but will hide it at the bottom of the listing. Always read the description if you think an item looks too new. Also, look for the "New" or "Used" tag. "New" indicates it's a reproduction.
Verified 100% Trustworthy Sales Sites
U.S based: - Bayonet Connection - eBayonet - US Military Knives [+ Bayonets]
Canada based: - Bayonets Plus
If you have used any other bayonet sales sites with positive experiences or know the sellers personally, please DM us and let us know if they should be added to our list and why!
What are some good reference/collector's books?
There are many great bayonet books out there for collectors of all types. There are encyclopedic styles, books on one specific kind of bayonet, and books on specific countries' bayonets. Since these books are niche, most of them were printed in small numbers and are presently out of print. This means they can get expensive, but I will list some relatively cheap and very helpful books below. I have also included an estimate of how much each book should cost. Prices will inevitably vary, but if you are patient and shop around you can absolutely obtain these for lower than the estimated price. The prices listed below are what I believe are fair prices based on an average from Amazon and Ebay sales. If you have any other books you think should be added to this list or you have any questions, please let us know.
The books for beginners that I recommend above all others (more info in list further down)...
Brayley - Illustrated History [Excellent photos, decent variety, coffee table book]
Maddox - Collecting Bayonets [Simply the best, even for the price. Excellent photos, Excellent variety of commom and truly rare, Recommendations for beginners on all sorts of things from restoration to displays, and more]
Keisling - Bayonets of the World: Complete Edition [Encylopedic style with sketch drawings, Older but mostly correct information. Still a widely used source.]
As previously said, the following book list is based on a combination of high recommendations & fair priced books for collectors of beginning to intermediate levels. For a more complete list, please visit here.
| TITLE | AUTHOR | APRX. PRICES [2022] |
|---|---|---|
| Post-War M4-M7 Bayonet-Knives M8A1 & M10 Scabbards NEW! | Ralph Cobb | $70 |
| American Bayonets of the 20th Century | Gary M. Cunningham | $40 |
| U.S. Knife Bayonets & Scabbards | Gary M. Cunningham | $80- $120 |
| American Socket Bayonets and Scabbards | Robert M Reilly | $40 |
| Bayonets: An Illustrated History [2nd Edition] | Martin J. Brayley | $30 |
| Bayonet Belt Frogs [I, II, & III] (Complete Edition) | Anthony Carter | $100 - $200 |
| Bayonets from Janzen's Notebook [8th Edition] | Jerry L. Janzen | $60 |
| Bayonets of the First World War | Claude Bera | $20 - $30 |
| Bayonets of the World: The Complete Edition | Paul Kiesling | $90 - $120 |
| Bayonets of Japan: A Comprehensive Reference on Japanese Bayonets | Raymond L. Labar | $120 - $300 |
| Collecting Bayonets [Currently in print again!!] | Jim Maddox | $125 |
| German Sidearms and Bayonets | Klaus Lübbe | $15 - $30 |
| M9 Bayonet: An Authorized History | Richard Neyman | $40 - $50 |
| Socket Bayonets of the Great Powers | Robert W. Shuey | $20 |
| Sockets Bayonets: A History and Collectors Guide | Graham Priest | $20 |
| The Bayonet - A History of Knife and Sword Bayonets From 1850-1970 | Anthony Carter & John Walter | $40 |
| The German Bayonet | John Walter | $35 - $50 |
| The U.S. Krag Bayonets: History, Variations, Modifications | Donald J. Hartman | $60 |
Navigation Pro tip: You can check out various kinds of bayonets & posts by clicking post flair!
r/Bayonets • u/Efficient_Body7332 • 1d ago
Requesting Information Martini-Henry 1876 Stamps
Hello all,
What can we glean about this one's history?
Thanks!
r/Bayonets • u/Fine-Literature-1394 • 2d ago
Identified Does anyone know what this is/what era or war it’s from
r/Bayonets • u/Grascollector • 3d ago
New Haul/Pickup Finding one is an aberration. Two, is something entirely more interesting
Some may recall last year I found a March 1875 dated, Chatellerault made Gras bayonet, with a serial of A1276.
This would be from one of the first Gras made at Chatellerault- but the serial number was in Chassepot location in the middle of the guard, and also a larger font. It was a cursive letter prefix, which does match Gras production
I already owned a May 1875 example, A3928, which was serialized normally, in the "correct" location, so I wondered if there was a change after the first few thousand. Chassepot do not have rivets there, while Gras do, so it would make sense to move the serial to where there is more free space.
This week while browsing ebay- I found another.
A4967- serialed in the middle of the guard, just like A1276, same font.
Notably, this serial is ABOVE the A3928 example, however the spine dates tell a story- A4967 is APRIL 1875, while A3928 is MAY.
I do not know what serialization practices were at Chatellerault, but there are many other factories where production or acceptance was not in strict serial order.
Does anyone else have an 1875 dated Chatellerault Gras bayonet from March, April or May?
Note: I have looked at ALL 1875 dated examples from any arsenal I could find, this marking variant has so far ONLY been on Chatellerault examples. However- St Etienne was producing Gras earlier than Chatellerault, I have not yet seen a 3 or 4 digit F prefix from St Etienne to confirm.
r/Bayonets • u/Unlikely_Place2523 • 4d ago
Identified I need help identifying this bayonet
r/Bayonets • u/ThirteenthFinger • 5d ago
20th Century Irish M1904
Irish M1904 for the M1904 Mannlicher. Same bayonet as the Romanian M1893, but with no Romanian marks and the standard 3/4 digit serial on the crossguard. Made by Steyr.
10k M1904s were snuck into Ulster, Northern Ireland in April 1914 by the UVF along with some 20k other less modern rifles such a Vetterlis and G1888s.
r/Bayonets • u/JLS_1993 • 5d ago
Requesting Information Tabuk Confirmation?
Acquired this as part of a package with a 56S today, from what I’ve been able to find on here and online this looks to be a Tabuk bayo & scabbard?
There aren’t any other markings on either, just serial numbers.
Would y’all be willing to give me a little extra confirmation on my assumption?
Or if I’m wrong, steer me in the correct direction, please!
Thanks!!
r/Bayonets • u/Grascollector • 5d ago
New Haul/Pickup Gras for 71/84
This was a random find. I was poking ebay, and saw a crusty Gras that had a shaved pommel. The pics did it no justice, but it was definitely modified, and didn't look like any of the usual mods.
I sent the link to my brother, and while we discussed it he made the seller a rock bottom offer based on condition- which the guy immediately accepted! (I was shocked)
So, in hand we have an Ursine de Steyr Gras, serialized for a late Tulle made Chassepot- all normal.
The pommel is deeply shaved, but not totally flat, and the muzzle ring unmodified.
But it has one weird feature- a slot cut above the press stud button.
On a Gew71 and a Gew 88, the area around the bayonet lug is flat, but on the 71/84 there is a protruding key that retains the front band. This lines up perfectly with the extra cut away on the pommel. I have not seen a published example of a Gras modified like this, but Mery's book DOES have a Chassepot bayonet for 71/84 that was relieved in that area.
Pics with it mounted on my Gew 71/84. The latch does not click fully shut- the bayonet lug is ever so slightly large on my example.
r/Bayonets • u/Frequent_Camp_2700 • 5d ago
Repros, Fakes, Fantasy, & Movie Props Bought this and wondering
Can it mount properly? Can this mount to m9 mounts?
Overall it seems decent despite it being Chinese crap. Did a “battle test” and it didn’t brake and kept decently pointy
r/Bayonets • u/Darkstick_ • 6d ago
Collection What do you think about this i paied it 200€?
r/Bayonets • u/larryeddy • 6d ago
Identified Found a few bayonets in dad's gun cabinet can you help identify - M4 or M1?
Went through the website worldbayonets.com and it helped a bunch but I don't see exactly what this is? Dads had it for as long as i remember (I'm 58) He has a 1944 M1-Carbine (Winchester version) and this fits around the barrel but is too short to latch. I don't see any markings. AI narrowed it down to possibly a foreign M4? The paper was wrapped around it.
Thanks.
r/Bayonets • u/Hurricanword • 6d ago
Identified Anyone know exactly what this bayonet is?
I’ve had this bayonet for the past few years. I got it from my uncle. I’m pretty sure it’s a Mauser rifle bayonet from 1916 based on all the markings but all the images I’ve seen of ww1 German bayonets don’t have that barrel loop where the handle meets the blade. It looks like it was added after the knife was made but the weird part is that two of the numbers in that 4 number code are on the added part. I’ve been wondering about this knife ever since I got it.
r/Bayonets • u/Embarrassed-Half-978 • 7d ago
Question Bent s84/98 III (k98k bayonet)
Do I leave it as is or attempt to correct it
Info on parts: (mixmaster)
FZE/F.W. Holler 1943 production bayonet
1940 dated Gotze and sohn frog
Carl Eickhorn Stahlwarenfabrik 1936 made bayonet sheath
Problem:
bayonet bends to the left looks like it was bent at the hilt at some point about 2cm while mostly cosmetic it does bug me a lot that it will not sit straight on my rifle
Any solutions?:
Anything I can do to lessen the bend or get it mostly plum again or is the metal too hard and will snap if attempted to bend back in place?
r/Bayonets • u/Born_Tangelo5224 • 8d ago
Question This a reproduction?
Purchased this thinking it was a real but is it? Hoping to get a year close to when my 2a rifle was made....
r/Bayonets • u/Salt_Accident261 • 8d ago
Requesting Information Manufacturer Information For M1917 Scabbard for M1917 Bayonet
Hello everyone!
I am hoping to get a 2nd opinion on a few M1917 bayonet scabbards I came across in a museum I worked at. Does anyone know which manufacturer made this type of scabbard, with this type of insignia/stamp?
Here are some identifying markers.
On the throat of the scabbard is the Ordnance shell/bomb and Flame with U.S. stamped in the center of it. Below that insignia is M-1917. Underneath the lip of the throat is "B-N 1". Some of these scabbards have a white or black number painted on their throat.
I have been able to identify the manufacturers of other M1917 scabbards, because they had their manufacturer stamp on them. However, this one is proving trouble some. Some auction sights have stated it is made by Beckwith Manufacturing Company (but I found they can be wrong sometimes). One bayonet book I looked through shows a diagram of this scabbard and insignia. It states that 1945 production, and Beckwith was contracted to modify the M3 Scabbard to fit the M1917 bayonet. However, another book stated that Beckwith scabbards are stamped with B.M. CO. Thought that may have been AFTER world war 2.
So I am getting some conflicting information.
I appreciate the help!
r/Bayonets • u/Civil_Efficiency_889 • 9d ago
New Haul/Pickup Grail acquired
Bought this beautiful Japanese pole bayonet yesterday, made at the Jinsen arsenal. I had been looking for an example for years, my search is over!
r/Bayonets • u/nicksatdown • 10d ago
Show & Tell This is my buddies, he found it after his father passed.
r/Bayonets • u/Sharpes_Sword • 9d ago
19th Century American Civil War era bayonet for the Brazilian import Minie Rifle
r/Bayonets • u/HornetActive1427 • 10d ago
Question Help with identifying
I know it is a m1871 bayonet, but it doesn’t have the little lever thing I see on other bayonets like this. My great grandfather brought this back from Europe in ww2.