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u/IWTDL 1d ago
The whole realistic wanted level system is gonna be for completely nothing if they add the Oppressor again
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u/Aurelio_Casillas 1d ago
You can only carry two weapons at once but this flying broomstick shoots 20 homing missles
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u/SnooOpinions1643 1d ago
you’ll prolly be able to carry more in Online as there’ll be some p2w clothing equipment.
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u/Saint-Caligula 1d ago
For an old guy new to the game. What is the "Oppressor"?
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u/alekstoo 1d ago
basically an all-powerful, overpowered flying motorcycle which shoots rockets. very unbalanced + completely out of place
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u/ArmandoGalvez 19h ago
Wait, are you sure this isn't from saints row 3? What the fuck happened in GTA online? I only played a little on the 360 back then but I didn't liked it, so I never got into GTA V in newer consoles or PC because I already was done with the main story in the 360
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u/snack217 16h ago
As years went by, they started adding "special" vehicles to keep the game fresh and to bring more variety to the DLC missions. This bike wasnt the first, first we got the Deluxo, A.K.A the Back to the Future DeLorean, which was also a flying car with missiles.
And yeah the Oppressor lives up to this name, because the problem is that it was abused by griefers and toxic people, and its size and speed made it a lot harder to counter-attack. But it just worsened a problem that had always been there, griefers, but at least back in the day, worst they could get was a buzzard helicopter, which was slower, hard to handle, and easy to take down, but still a probem.
But on the other hand, as the game became more and more about grinding and doing business stuff and doing heist preparation missions, the Oppressor bike is a blessing, nothing even comes close to it, incredibly easy to use, to take off and land absolutely anywhere and with zero crashing risks, to attack NPCs, etc. Game really needed something like this if you really wanted to maximize your earnings per day.
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u/ChillCucumberZ 1d ago
The most dumb, most OP flying vehicle ever. Made GTA online virtually unplayable after it was released
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u/AscendMoros 20h ago
The First one was not anywhere near the mark 2. It was annoying AF, but it had some drawbacks if i remember right. The Mark 2 took everything that was a weakness with the first one and just got rid of it.
Keep all that flying cars and shit out of the game for a few years at least Rockstar im begging you.
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u/silentdeath3012 18h ago
Mk1 could only glide and wasn't even that good but still fun. Mk2 was total cancer.
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u/PerpetualStride 1d ago
Take off and land instantly, shoots homing missiles, ruins the game from every perspective, as a normal player you dont need the variety of different vehicle types anymore, same goes for the tryhard (the player focused on killing other players for no reason)
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u/JackKnightmare 20h ago
I quitted online after the realization that using the oppressor mkII makes the game so boring that it feels more like a job than a game, since there is no obstacles or steering from point a to point b to destroy x target with a single missile, also by making you buy a missile jammer or nerfing the hydra(the only effective counter to it at the time) to encourage you to buy the most recent and most expensive jet, the raiju which is faster and more maneuvarable for only 8500000 gta$
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u/Material-Bee4845 1d ago
Opresser was the main reason why I stopped playing the game.
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u/The-Cunt-Spez 23h ago
Well, that and a myriad of other things. Every time I opened GTA online I was blasted with messages to do this, buy that, limited time event, don’t miss out on x or y etc. It was an information flood that always made me wanna stop playing. And I did.
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u/CrookedSunshades 20h ago
You can turn all those all those notifications off, and you can play gta online in solo lobbies. There's still a ton of new missions, a couple solo heists that are fun, and for any fan of the series, definitely worth playing.
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u/SgtDirtyMike 22h ago
It would be “fine” if they sent the military / jets after you if you got six stars or were griefing on the oppressor
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u/Slow__Cheeta 1d ago
GTA Online is Rockstars true cash cow, after everything they did in GTAV i would no be surprised if GTA 6 Online goes off the rails with dumb shit within 2 years. GTA Online is likely the reason we never got GTAV DLC or Undead Nightmare 2 as well.
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u/Topikk 1d ago
Counterpoint: everyone I know in real life stopped playing Online after a few years because you couldn't do much of anything without being constantly spammed by homing rockets coming from land, sea, and air.
As much money as they made selling this bullshit, I think they left money on the table by disrupting the balance so quickly and thoroughly. It's entirely possible they try to keep people in the disposable income demographics playing longer this time around.
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u/Slow__Cheeta 1d ago
Id like to think GTA6 Online will be a more grounded experience im not getting my hopes up though. I fully agree that GTA Online was bullshit that shouldn't have lasted and still lasting as long as it did while receiving new content when other dlc and games for that matter could have been made.
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u/ramblin_troubadour 1d ago
The fact they abandoned red dead 2 for that slop still makes me so mad to this day. If there’s one thing I hate rockstar for it’s that. Why tf would you spend all that time making a game to abandon it for a game that was already out for 5 years. It’s so absurd. Fuck GTAV online. Rdr2 online is just the same regurgitated shit
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u/Slow__Cheeta 1d ago
I agree with you, i understand GTA is the real money maker but integrity should still be relevant. Never getting Undead Nightmare 2 feels like a crime, not even a next gen update for RDR2
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u/DrewDonut 23h ago
My understanding of the economics of microtransactions is that it's been long known that having whales is better/more profitable than having a wider playerbase.
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u/KittenLOVER999 18h ago
Counterpoint: everyone I know in real life has been playing online for 13 years, just create friends only lobbies and fuck around if it bugs you that much
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u/Nder_Wiggin 20h ago
Bro they left pennies on the table.
GTA V Online was/is one of the highest grossing online video game economies in history with over $5Billion with a B in revenue.
Most players didn't quit they paid real money to do what was done to them to others
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u/Hansi_Olbrich 22h ago
Dan Houser straight up admitted that it was more profitable for Rockstar to spend 4-6 hours with a small team making a car to sell with a Shark-Card than it was for them to spend several months with a dev team to make a serious expansion pack of DLC series.
The reason RDO never expanded was because it wasn't making a billion dollars worth of revenue within 12 months. For Take2/Rockstar, if it doesn't automatically print billions of dollars for the least amount of work possible they won't do it.
They can brag all day long about horse testicles shrinking in the cold but Rockstar gets real quiet when you ask why they bothered to make Mexico/New Austin/Isle of Guam if there was never any intention to have players actually go there for anything.
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u/lfenske 1d ago edited 1d ago
Right? As someone who doesn’t play GTA online I’m pretty comfortable saying that the revenue it generates is the reason rockstar felt comfortable spending (I’ve heard as high as) 2.8 billion dollars on this game. All said and done I guess Rockstar made 4-5 billion dollars on GTA 5 game sales alone. Thats not enough to justify spending 2.8b on a game. My guess is they’re going to try and go bigger and “better” with the online and shit will most definitely get “out of hand”
Kind of a double edged sword. Without the online cash generator GTA 6 would likely be a much much smaller and less impressive game.
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u/Corrupted_spartan117 1d ago
Definitely a big fear of mine too, but one of my biggest ones is them once again making earning money (the main gameplay loop of the game) unbearably grindy. I'm not saying making money should be quick, but they really need to figure out how to make prep work fun.
Unfortunately, i doubt this will change though, considering its most likely intentional to encourage the purchase of shark cards.
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u/FatherHaz 1d ago edited 1d ago
Money grinding is going to be more tedious with the new realism features; updated wanted/police system, limited weapon loadout, refueling vehicles, etc.
It’s going to result into more people buying GTA+ and Shark Cards.
Since they are taking a bit longer to release Online. I wonder if they will keep those features or make Online more arcadey to appeal to the current GTA Online crowd aka Oppressor MK2/Shark Card whales.
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u/RATGUT1996 1d ago
Oh yea if I even smell a vehicle like this added to online its an automatic bail. Put up with that shit for too too long and I still to this day advocate for its removal from the game as a whole. Fuck the mk2!
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u/AnObtuseOctopus 23h ago
I don't want any of that made up future shit.. none of it. I don't want the little gun that sends shit flying, the laser guns, the flying cars and bikes.. none of it.
I'm sorry, but, I loved GTA V, had a lot of fun with my buddies.. but, as soon as all that stupid future shit showed up, it killed the feel. It wasn't GTA anymore.. it became sharkcard simulator. It killed the entire feel of the world, killed the excitement of cop chases, killed having any reason to do petty crime, killed races, killed missions, it literally ruined everything that made GTA V what people loved it for.
I'd much rather they stay rooted in the world they created.. and not add a bunch of fantasy ass sci-fi sharkcard bait that is going to make this entire world pointless.... Again.
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u/TNovix2 1d ago
They won't go that route again, it's clear they want to keep it "real" and more grounded. I can't see them doing broomsticks again or going the futuristic tech route
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u/Shookicity 21h ago edited 1h ago
The single player, sure. But Rockstar understandably likes their money and shit like this makes them a lot of it. GTA Online will probably stay grounded for a while but i’d be surprised if they don’t start adding rocket cars and whatnot within a year.
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u/angryshib 1d ago
Give it a few years. They will have jumped the proverbial shark by the time the ps6 release rolls around.
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u/TheFlaccidWorm 1d ago
It'll start grounded for the first 2-3 years and then they'll probably start adding wacky stuff
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u/zfighters8103 1d ago
With how much emphasis they are putting on realism and immersion I wouldn't be too worried imo. They'll probably keep 5 online for all the future slop and keep 6 online grounded
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u/No_Tomorrow_719 23h ago
I have faith they’ll keep it grounded, im honestly so happy looking through all the gta 6 media and i haven’t seen any merryweather, or any type of military and jets in the world
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u/PattyOB98 1d ago
I really hope they finally realize the system of "go mess with this guy trying to get a payout of 100k and you'll get 2k” is just toxic
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u/lilStankfur 1d ago
Hopefully if they do bring this back there will be a vanilla server and a server for this kind of stuff
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u/lil-tortilla-chip 1d ago
pre-oppressor GTA online was sweet. buzzards, jets, helis everywhere. this thing just wiped out the entire ecosystem
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u/flynxd 1d ago
jet griefers were just as annoying and destructive as oppressor griefers
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u/FashionSuckMan 21h ago
They really should never have let you buy the hydra. Go steal one if you wanna bully the lobby
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u/VictoryAlive2971 22h ago
It makes online a horrible experience. As soon as they show up, I am done playing free mode in online.
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u/StinkyFallout 1d ago
Give us a homing rocket launcher that cannot be avoided, for example it will destroy it with one rocket but other vehicles take less damage so atleast we can fight off the trolls.
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u/LegendNomad 1d ago edited 1d ago
Just like every other handheld anti-aircraft weapon, that type of thing would end up being used for griefing/annoying other players more than for self defense
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u/razorisrandom 1d ago
GTA V online was fun when the game first released. Now it feels icky with greed, not even worth playing anymore
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u/CardiologistNo7567 1d ago
Legit don’t even play in open lobby’s anymore lol,just a private lobby with a few buddy’s
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u/razorisrandom 1d ago
When I was killed via orbital cannon I swore off public lobbies
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u/Mrballz- 17h ago
I really hope GTA 6 has a proper item shop like Fortnite and Ubisoft games. Some of us have jobs and responsibilities and simply don’t have 300 hours to waste grinding for the good stuff.
Let me buy the best assault rifle on day one, a supercar and a luxury apartment with real money so I can skip all that boring “building your criminal empire” stuff. Then I can jump straight into the endgame and start blasting high-level NPCs.
Honestly, I’d even like a battle pass with exclusive weapons, outfits and properties each season. It would be way more convenient than actually having to earn anything.
And please add daily challenges, limited-time cosmetics and rotating shops to single-player too. I don’t want some outdated RDR2-style experience where I actually have to live in the world, make money and organically work my way up. I have a job in real life, I don’t need another one in GTA.
Rockstar should understand that immersion is nice, but monetisation is forever.
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u/Warm-Engineering-239 1d ago
i mean with the fuel in car, that thing will run for 30 second, so the replacement will probably be slower and more like a drone/quadcopter
now add amunation to vehicle this will have 2 missile at max
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u/Sweaty_Connection160 1d ago
The ability to carry only 2 weapons will already solve a couple of issues.
But either way the whole game goes in a different direction than gta v, im sure they are going to keep it more realistic and grounded than gta online. But be prepared for some Rockstar bs, thats guaranteed
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u/Ok-Midnight9311 1d ago
Your biggest concern should be that you’re concerned about it when it’s not been been announced
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u/Inevitable-Ext4066 1d ago
I ditched GTAV before this abomination came to fruition and heard of the horror stories. I think it will come back but severely nerfed, will be nice to taste the tears of the griefers who won't be happy
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u/Iluvatar-Great 1d ago
I just want some street thug fantasy, robbing small stores with one pistol, limited ammo, making $100 in one run, saving up money to buy a decent car...
Now having billions, and all flying cars and people shooting bazookas in the streets... That's just meaningless and not satisfying at all.
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u/ohthedarside 1d ago
The most crazy stuff i want in online is a weaponless flying car (delorian) and the mk1 oppresor bike (no weapons either)
Silly fun stuff is cool nut as soon as you add weapons to it , it just ruins the game
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u/Roberthen_Kazisvet 1d ago
I am pretty sure it will not be there at start, but later for sure. You do to need to buy it even now and just enjoy invite only sessions with friends.
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u/toastronomy 1d ago
it will happen, all that's left to see is if they're going to give people who just want to play normally a separate session or gamemode.
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u/SoggyValuable6575 1d ago
Not necessarily exactly this but some vehicle(s) like it will come to GTA VI Online. Question is not will they be added, its after what number of years from release will they be added. My prediction is something between 6 and 8 years.
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u/Adventurous-Soft-501 1d ago
They could make it silly and grounded . Such as introducing silly weapons like the dildo bat from saints row. Items you can realistic acquire in VC.
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u/Ghostman223 1d ago
Enjoy that first year before online and pc modding because you know it’s coming after that
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u/ZeMiii14 1d ago
i already know gta 6 online is gonna go wild, as much as I'd like it grounded, I'm sure the grounded aspect will change in a year after online is released. My ONLY hope is that they've learned from the problems in gta online and give us balanced vehicles and weapons.
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u/AloneCamp4880 1d ago
yeah i’m gonna stick with sixm when that eventually drops but i do have some hope they won’t fuck it up because RDO was pretty good with realism and fairness and they only started adding in silly clothes at the very end of its lifespan. but they did kill off RDO because the grind for gold bars was actually really quite fair so it wasn’t making them the big bucks like GTAO was. never needed to buy gold at all in RDO, and by the time i quit playing i had like 300 bars. i don’t have a lot of faith but i think they probably will lean closer to RDO than GTAO just with a way worse grind and it’s also probably going to have a separate price tag than 6’s story mode.
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u/Lazy-Interest-2866 23h ago
my biggest concern is that you have to pay a subscription fee to play online
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u/chrisbot128 23h ago
Really, they just need server browsers with specific modes and payout boost/reductions based on server parameters. (Chill servers with no oppressors have reduced payouts… similar to how selling in full lobbies boosts payouts now)
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u/Electrical-War-9452 23h ago
It will take a few years til we get there , they’re aiming for realism more this time you can tell
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u/Vegetable-Lab-8388 22h ago
Dont worry, it will be there. In different form but gta 6 online will have its own dumb unrealistic and OP piece of vehicle
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u/Luvythicus 22h ago
I wanna say I heard that they didn't want things like the Oppressor in GTA 6.... But then again, no idea how true it is, and hey, shit can always change. For me, honestly, keep it at choppers like the Buzzards and maybe a jet like the Lazer, at most, nothing more than that. I like the grounded feel...
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u/BreadPapiii 22h ago
if the whales dealt with it in 5, and kept playing, they would probably deal with it in 6 unfortunately.
I won't play online if they have that BS
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u/Welshevens 22h ago
I expect they will exist but the lobby structure will allow us who want a more grounded experience to avoid them
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u/FashionSuckMan 21h ago
Im sure things will be much more tame, at least for a while. With how you can only have so many guns on you at once, and with how the new wanted system works, it would be a waste to give us such absurdly powerful immersion breaking vehicles
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u/Kat_Schrodinger1 21h ago
It's not a question of if, it's how much peace we will have until it happens.
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u/Ramja9 21h ago
Nah don't worry! Rockstars innovative 3 billion dollar cars that look like normal cars but actually can dodge or have resistance against it's missiles will come soon.
Although don't get to comfortable in them champ, because they'll add the "Fuck you in particular canon" that kills any player anywhere. Costs 20 dollars to fire so get that credit card ready.
If this isn't enough then they'll sell you more solutions to the problem they caused. Armored flying cars, jets, helicopters. You won't shoot a normal gun ever again!
Make sure to grind whatever heist gives the most money solo. Have enough money from the grind? No you don't. Get five times more before they nerf that heist to the ground.
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u/ShardsOfOsiris 21h ago
If it were up to me we wouldn't even have tanks or dogfight jets. Just cars, bikes and non-military grade planes/helicopters. Keep it grounded.
But meet my unpopular down the middle and we can settle on ''just no James Bond shit pls''.
So, yeah. Just no James Bond shit pls.
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u/MapNational3629 21h ago
i doubt it, this is how you’d divide a player base faster than anything. they lost the plot with gta 5 because it basically turned into a meme for how long the game was out n no sign of another to come .. this would only happen if gta 7 came out in like 2040
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u/Scorpdelord 20h ago
yeh they need to fk off with all these thing, multiplayer lobbies became just one loser flying around making it unfun for eveyone
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u/Ok_Excuse1388 20h ago
That's not really something concern me. what really concern me is take 2 CEO want to increase players spending ratio on video games which obliviously mean the GTA 6 online will be to grindy just to force players to buy sharkcards and microtransactions.
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u/Nder_Wiggin 20h ago
They are gonna have it or something equally as annoying. Research found that though people complained about this in GTA V instead of not playing anymore they grinded harder OR what Rockstar really wanted the entire time, paid real money so that they could buy one themselves and grief others like they were griefed
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u/Heavy-Argument6238 20h ago
I could’ve swore that there was an official statement saying that vehicles relating to the oppressor would not be appearing in 6 because the are trying to stay semi realistic with a good goofy vehicles probably like the jet pack from San Andreas
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u/Angry-Closet 20h ago
I hope the most you are able to buy in terms of moded vehicles is maybe bullet proof and to be able to take more explosion damage than a normal vehicle. Then there are military vehicles and those would be OK. But please for the love of God no flying cars/motorcycles!
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u/Demolition_Boy87 20h ago
E é questão de tempo, não se iludam. Eu tenho medo das Avangers, para 8 ocupantes, sendo vendidas por 2 mil dolares igual naquele joguinho bait espacial.
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u/TezzyWezzyy 19h ago
Lmao they are most def gonna add dumb shit to online but hopefully the first 3 or more years will be calm 😭
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u/nissanfan64 19h ago
I don’t mind the idea of the Oppressor at all but I do hope the online stays a bit grounded for a few a years before they drop the silly broomsticks of death.
After years of gta online having a super quick and easy travel option was fantastic.
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u/Chesse_cz 19h ago
My biggest concern is they gonna make it another battlefield instead of GTA... plus i hope they learned from GTA Online ans RDR Online to avoid same mistakes with how players can be toxic and i hope they wont force public sessions if they bring those terrible jobs.... i realy hated to spend x hours to replenish warehouse and then while selling it some kid with jet destroyed it wasting my and friends time.... well that was in second year of Online, maybe they changed it. I didnt play it feom that point as it turned in BF....
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u/666James420 19h ago
I think late into the life cycle they'll resort to this but I'm really hoping we get a solid 6-7 years of online before they pull crap like this
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u/ImportantTeaching919 18h ago
They already said that kind of stuff isn't coming back at all,they want to keep a grounded experience and realistic. I do think we will get expanded maps because of the patents. During a interview they said every NPC and interior was handcrafted by a art team. But the patents revealed they made a system to make interiors and NPCs based off keywords and assets they made so basically procedurally generated to simplify it. But they didn't use it in GTA 6. So I think it's for map expansion and would explain why vice city airport is so Big. We might have the ability to fly to different updated cities. Plus we can go into the airport for the first time as shown in the reveal.
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u/IcebatWage 18h ago
Good thing I'm not addicted to GTA6 online so I can just not even start playing if that shit is there day one.
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u/LumpyProperty3781 17h ago
If we get shit like that they might as well trash it or focus on story dlc, I don’t want any futuristic bullshit people can use to grief I’m trynna chill, and as a matter of fact go ahead and put all the kids an griefers in their own lobby and let them have at each other 😂
https://giphy.com/gifs/ktcUyw6mBlMVa
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u/kinglyIII 17h ago
That shit singlehanded made me stop playing gta v when it came out and I never went bacm
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u/DragonPAul_Z 17h ago
Oppressors? Really?!
Your biggest worry is a vehicle that is easily countered, terribly piloted half the time, and is basically only good against the unexperienced?
Maybe at one time it was a real threat, but those things get blown out of the sky more often not these days.
I say bring 'em on
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u/HikerRemastered 17h ago
I'm not remotely concerned about GTA 6 Onlines vehicles. Can't play online if you never purchase the game
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u/sharkyzilla 16h ago
this is exactly what's going to happen, gta online has made rockstar literally billions, and it's only gonna get worse in 6, we saw what they did in red dead online with nerfing actually good money making methods so it was either 8 hours of nonstop grinding or 20 dollars worth of gold bars to buy something. Gold bars will absolutely make a return in their own way in 6 online when they add stuff like the oppressor mk3, it'll either be 20 million dollars which'll take a whole week worth of grinding to afford for free or 25 dollars of whatever premium currency online will have.
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u/OMGFuck2019 14h ago
What are you afraid of? An efficient way to get around the map? I’m tired of people whining about these!
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u/LackedMushroom0 12h ago
Lol. This is the picture I uploaded a while ago, got some attention and was then removed due to copyright reasons
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u/CydonianMaverick 11h ago
I'm not concerned because I won't be playing it. I only care about single player
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u/BrightWillingness859 11h ago
I wouldn't mind fun futuristic vehicles like the opressor mk1. But I hope they keep the mk2 away
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u/Zak_PT 11h ago
guys it's the FPS drops i am worried about.... Remember GTA online on the PS3 (even PS4)? It ran at 25 FPS and even less when there Is Chaos. My biggest fear Is that once they realease GTA 6 on the ps6 they Will stop updating GTA 6 online on the PS5 because of hardware limits. I bet GTA 6 online Will run like shit on the PS5 base.
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u/Responsible_Lie_1989 11h ago
I think the approach to online for GTA 6 will be different types of lobby's. You'll have some that are more like GTA V with the annoying flying vehicles and stupid weapons but they'll also have more realistic "RP" type lobbies as well, I'm sure I read somewhere Rockstar had hired some well known community creators to help do this for GTA 6 online.
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u/Icy_Chemist_1725 10h ago edited 10h ago
This shouldn't be. It should already be obvious as a forgone conclusion.
The real concern should be them releasing online as a separate game entirely for $50 base and $80 for the special edition with a $9.99/month subscription and 19.99 premium subscription for creators/RP/etc. Then their new currency will be some sort of crypto that is even worse than the GTA 5 money and they make you buy their shark cards, which increase the value of the crypto when shark cards are purchased or something retarded like that.
Oh did I forget the mention that the PC, PS5, Xbox, (future PS6) will all have separate online and single player games that require purchase for each system. Also the subscriptions for a ps5 and Pc game would have to be separate if you wanted to use multiple systems. How else would playstation further discourage gamers from switching systems to PC? Imagine if they also do an exclusive online release where you have to wait on PC for a year to play the online mode. =)
If they were going max greed, these are all options, many of which they have already done in some form or another.
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u/SilverEye33 1d ago
You're not alone.