Of course everyone’s entitled to their own opinion but they legitimately look like they stepped out of westeros and have dragons as their favorite pet animal

I could watch these 2 speak High Valyrian all day.

As always I am not the artist. It's rayne_rahman you can follow him on IG. I just find it cool and share it with you guys

Why would I oppose the daughter of the king who was named heir in the sights of the lords of the realm and steadfastly recognized as such?

Should I oppose her because she’s hesitant about making decisions that can subject thousands of lives to brutal deaths?

Should I oppose her for actively challenging the man named King against the late King’s wishes? Should I oppose her for not standing by idly and letting her inheritance be stolen against the King’s wishes?

Or should I oppose her because she sees ruling as a duty to the realm and cares to protect the realm from darkness according to the prophecy she was made to believe?

How do I blame her for becoming more assertive and even cruel when everyone she loves seems to be taken away from her due to a war she didn’t start?

Someone on social media claimed that George R. R. Martin posted 3 different timelines for Rhaenyra
Targaryen
on his blog (Not A Blog). According to
them, the first timeline went like this:

1. She married a Lannister and had no children.

2. She married a Strong and had 3 children.

3. She married Laenor and had 3 bastards.

...and in every single timeline, her throne was stolen.
Is there any truth to this claim, or is it just pure fan-fiction / a misinformed rumor? Has GRRM ever mentioned writing alternate versions of her story like this?

If it’s true present me with evidence🙏🏼

Jace's spirit lives on

I'm not sure if it's just me. I was super disappointed in the show runners decision, to have Helaena ride her dragon for the smallest snippet of a dream, and it never came to fruition! In the books, she says one of her greatest joys is riding dreamfyre. They took that away from her in the show, and I would have just loved to see Helaena riding her dragon with joy a few times at least.

One of the weirdest writing choices in HOTD is how Aegon and Helaena basically do not have a relationship on screen. They have ONE actual conversation in the entire show, and now Helaena is dead, so that's literally it.

And they didn't need to be some loving romantic couple. In the book, they're not portrayed as hating each other either. Aegon listens to Helaena and there's at least the sense that these two actually have a marriage and relationship beyond simply existing in the same family.

The stairwell scene after Blood and Cheese is probably the saddest example. They see each other after their child has just been brutally murdered, both clearly look like they want to say something, and Aegon ultimately walks away while Helaena looks hurt. It's a good scene in isolation, but it's also insane that this is basically all we get between two parents grieving their murdered child. They never actually talk about Jaehaerys. Aegon never consoles her. Helaena never consoles him. Nothing.

Then later Helaena confronts Aemond about burning Aegon, as if we're supposed to understand that she cares about what happens to him. And maybe she does! But where was that relationship? Where was that care ever shown?

I'm not asking for some great Aegon/Helaena romance. I just wanted them to be allowed to have a relationship at all. They were siblings, husband and wife, king and queen, and the parents of a murdered child. There was so much complicated material there, and the show barely touched any of it. Very strange creative choice.

I simply can’t wait 2 years for another update to the series, just bought the book tonight gonna start reading it tomorrow and compare the differences and mostly just find out what happens

I've seen 3 dragon scenes talked about the most:

1. Stormcloud's death
2. The Cannibal during the sowing
3. The other dragons during the Gullet

I was wondering if there are any other dragon scenarios that would've elevated the show.

Personally I would've loved to swap out Meleys in the dragonpit for Aegon circling King's Landing on Sunfyre after his coronation

I like to draw up timelines for the shows I watch and check whether they’re consistent. It may come as no surprise that HotD has a few issues, as they’ve changed the ages of characters and compacted events to minimise time jumps. Significant time jumps only occur in Series 1 (the dates are taken from accompanying material or the show itself):

• Episode 1: shows the Grand Council of 101 AC and then jumps to the year 112 AC
• Episode 2: half a year later, but still in the year 112 AC
• Episode 3: three years later, i.e. 115 AC
• Episode 4+5: one year later, i.e. 116 AC
• Episode 6+7: 10 years later, i.e. 126 AC
• From episode 8 onwards: Six years later, i.e. 132 AC
• Unlike the first season, no major time jumps occur in Season 2 and Season 3. Therefore, Season 2 takes place in 132 AC, and Season 3 follows directly.

According to the GoT Wiki, all events in Seasons 2 and 3 are dated to the year 132 AC. However, other Redditors have already spotted a major problem: the intervals between the births of Alicent’s children, which are extremely short, verging on the impossible (And yes, Daeron was already planned for the first series, according to Martin’s blog)

Here are the specific details for the show, as found on the GoT Wiki (they are taken from accompanying material or the show itself):

• The main storyline of Season 1 begins in the year 112 AC with Aemma’s death (Season 1, Episode 1). Viserys marries Alicent no earlier than half a year later. (Season 1, Episode 2)
• "Second of His Name" (Season 1, Episode 3) takes place on Aegon’s second nameday, which is in 115 AC as the War for the Stepstones, which began in 112 AC, is said to have lasted for three years. Therefore, Aegon was born in 113 AC.
• Alicent is heavily pregnant with Helaena in "Second of His Name" (Season 1, Episode 3). Aegon is stated to be 3 years old in "King of the Narrow Sea," (Season 1, Episode 4) in which Helaena is visibly around the age of 1. Therefore, Helaena was born in 115 AC. Furthermore, the name days of Aegon and Helaena follow each other very closely.
• Harwin Strong refers to Jacaerys and Lucerys as younger than Aegon and Aemond in "The Princess and the Queen." (Season 1, Episode 6) Jacaerys was born in 116 AC and Helaena, Aemond's older sister, was born in 115 AC. Therefore, Aemond must be born in either 115 or 116 AC.
• Daeron is stated to be 16 years old in "Smallfolk," (Season 2, Episode 6) which takes place in 132 AC. Therefore, Daeron was born in 116 AC.

[Edit: In the following, I am assuming that all pregnancies were carried to full term.]

You can already see that Alicent must have been pregnant constantly in the years 115 and 116. It is entirely possible that she could have had three children in two years if Aegon’s name day fell right at the start of the year, Helaena was born shortly afterwards, and Alicent became pregnant again straight away. Once she gave birth to Aemon in the last moon of the year 115 or the first of the year 116, she must have become pregnant again straight away and given birth to Daeron in the last moon of that year. That would mean that Season 2 must take place in the last moon of the year 132.

In this calculation, however, Aegon becomes a problem: even if Aemma dies in the first moon of the year 112, Viserys waits half a year before considering remarriage. Even if they marry immediately in the 7th moon and Alicent becomes pregnant straight away, she will not be able to give birth to Aegon until the 5th moon of the year 113, meaning that Helaena, too, will not be born until the 5^th moon of the year 115 at the earliest, and all the births are pushed back so that Daeron cannot be born until the year 117, which means that he is actually only 15 in Season 2, or that the show has allowed more time to pass and we are in the middle of the year 133 in Seasons 2 and 3. In fact, the septon says in "Rhaenyra Triumphant" (Season 3, Episode 3) that Aegon’s coronation took place a few months ago, which could still be in the year 132 but could also already be the year 133.

Another possibility is that Viserys got Alicent pregnant before they were married. In that case, she would be about three months pregnant with Aegon when Viserys announced the wedding, which seems plausible; however, I can imagine that a royal wedding requires quite a bit of preparation. Furthermore, Alicent is only 14 and very slender, so a bump might already be visible. In that case, however, it would still be possible that the year is currently 132 AC. Furthermore, a premarital affair between Alicent and Viserys would tie in with one of Mushroom’s stories from the book. Moreover, a premarital pregnancy would also tie in with Rhaenyra’s marriage and Jace’s birth. Rhaenyra marries Laenor in "We Light the Way" (Season 1, Episode 5) and gives birth to Jace in the same year. For this to happen, she must have married within the first two moons and become pregnant straight away (at the same time as Alicent), and that episode and the one before it must take place immediately after Aemond’s birth, as Alicent is not visibly pregnant. Incidentally, this would also mean that Daemon must have married Laena straight away and got her pregnant with Baela (the order is flexible) – except if the two were already having an affair and she became pregnant, and Daemon killed Rhea so that he could marry Laena. Incidentally, Rhaenyra’s claim that she and Laenor had been trying to have children is hypocritical, no matter how you look at it.

Of course, another possibility would be that the showrunners haven’t got a clear idea of the timeline or the characters’ ages. This is further supported by the fact that there are apparently members of the show’s crew who describe Aemond as being 18 years old. If so, he would have been born in the year 114 AC, which would place him between Aegon and Helaena in age; however, Helaena is his older sister.

TLDR: There is a chronological issue regarding the births of Alicent’s children, and here are the four explanations for it:

1. Daeron is only 15, and the statement in Season 2 that he is 16 is incorrect (this supports option 4)
2. It’s already the year 133 AC, and it’s been that way since Season 2 (maybe)
3. Alicent was already pregnant with Aegon before her marriage to Viserys (my favourite)
4. The showrunners have messed up the timeline (the most likely option)

If I’ve got my maths wrong, please let me know (in a nice way).

PS: I’ve only touched on how the births complicate the timeline here, and haven’t gone into the difficulties regarding the characters’ storylines at all, as that would be a topic for another post. For example, the show has made Alicent’s fate far worse. In the book, she doesn’t get married until she’s 18 and has her four children by the time she’s 26. In the show, she marries at 14 and has her four children within the next four years. Furthermore, Viserys is younger in the book. The showrunners should be ashamed of themselves.

According to F&B, the Storming of the Dragonpit which kills most of the dragons occurs around the end of the 5th moon of 130 AC. Rhaenyra then flees the city on foot, seeking refuge at loyal castles until she’s no longer welcome. This period apparently lasts around 4-5 months, before she finally is able to find transport to take her….well, you know.

But that’s a long time! I find it strange that no army or allies were available or that nothing was done or no plans were hatched by anyone —- FOR FIVE MONTHS!

That’s almost as long as she was ruling in Kings Landing.

Anyone have any insights into this period or theories on how the show will address it, if at all?

When Aemond is fighting off the 3 bandits, one of the bandits grabs Alys from behind, and it looks like he’s about to either hold her hostage or slice her. However, a few seconds later that same bandit is running toward Aemond, leaving Alys free and unharmed. What?

Did he just change his mind? Or did he actually “kill” her off-screen, but she didn’t die because she’s immortal? It was all very confusing

In the first season, the wind vane is blowing aft, which in a car, means you’re driving fast. In a wind-powered ship, it means you’re moving backwards.

Frequently, these wooden ships feature open flames in every form, which is pure insanity.

It’s hard to ignore.

So, concerning two major events in particular, The God's Eye and the finale, who would you like to see them directing?

I think Andrij Parekh would be great handling the God's Eye (or maybe as a wild card, bring back Greg Yaitanes for it) and, for me at least, Clare Kilner *has* to direct the series finale.

I don't want to diss him but I hope Loni Peristere doesn't return for S4 wasn't a fan of his work on the show and I hope that because he directed Salt and Sea, Fire and Blood, they don't dare give him The God's Eye or any major event.

So, who would you pick? And you can choose any event yet to come as well.

It's been lingering in my mind for a while, and I've been pondering whether this post would look absolutely crazy. So please, critise this as you may.

I strongly believe that Rhaena and Sheepstealer will reunite but not in the way most people would think. Rhaena accompanied by Daemon or Baela take Rhaena back to Sheepstealer's lair. They find him in horrible condition, curled up, wounds still steaming. (Note: I know this doesn't really make sense seeing how Sunfyre got fucked up but still somehow lived, compared to what Sheepstealer had to go through, but the nonsensical writing must go on). Rhaena finds a clutch of his eggs, one seemingly a shimmering pink colour with ripples of obsidian black. Rhaena pressed her face against Sheepstealer who is assumed to be dying (let the writers do with him as they please). Rhaena takes the eggs back to the Vale, where she is forced back into the care of Jeyne Arryn, since Rhaenyra can't stand to even look at her at this point of the story. The rest of the story plays out, Morning hatches, blah blah.

For Daeron's case, his character is already in shambles. As much as I want him to die in battle, I don't think thats the way the writer's are going to pave his arc. I believe that Daeron will survive Second Tumbleton and lives under a new name. No one knows who Daeron is or what he looks like except for Bold Jon, Gwayne and a few higher ranking members of Ormund's Army. Daeron Targaryen could easily pass as a Hightower, specifically Garmund Hightower, and his marriage to Rhaena is pretty much already hinted at. This can also explain his tolerance to the prescence of Morning when they get married, and why Tessarion was so irritated when Seasmoke and Addam arrived; because Daeron was probably in a pile of ash and wood.

Nevermind the fact that I am seeing ads on a premium subscription video service I already pay for, but seeing the ad before I can skip forward makes me feel like I'm watching a cheap CW show rather than what is supposed to be HBOs premiere property.

Edit: I just had another thought about how bizarre and sacrilegious it would be if they did this for some of HBOs more classic properties. Like if they had a mobile game where you have to score drugs as Bubbles in the Wire (which tbh would be more fun than whatever the hell they are pushing now)