r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation peter?

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u/HotPot87 1d ago

They're gonna claim a racist or sexist reason.

Though the real reason was they were all in pretty poorly written Disney+ TV shows post Endgame when people where not as hungry for marvel content as they were in the 2010s

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u/Baha05 1d ago

This would be the joke part.

Second half is the actual reason but also the Hulk has never been that great for movies.

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u/HotPot87 1d ago

Ironheart and Sam Wilson's Captain America were never exactly A-listers either.

She-hulk certainly has her fans and I enjoyed some of her early 2000's comics covering the superhero laws around the time of the first Marvel Civil war.

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u/Hungry_Caregiver734 1d ago

Honestly. I would watch a courtroom/law drama like Suits, except it was Matt Murdoch and She-Hulk representing superheros in court.

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u/Justiniandc 1d ago

It's funny how this is such a good idea that it would be too much for the executives at Disney.

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u/DupeyTA 1d ago

They'd need to hire good writers that also know the law system that also know comic books. That would want to make a full season or four becauase it's Disney.

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u/Outcast129 1d ago

You don't need to even know the law to make a good law-based TV show, you just need to actually want to make an entertaining show and not think like a Reddit mod when it comes to the Law.

The She-Hulk writers did not meet either of these.

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u/Heisenburgo 1d ago

Didn't the writers of the She Hulk show say they knew nothing about how the law actually works? Like why even make a show about a superhero lawyer if you're not gonna bother to do the proper research on it in the first place...

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u/Latter-Possibility 1d ago

They had like 3 former judges on set for the court room scenes and a former prosecutor as a paid consultant.

But this was mostly for asking questions of how people would act in the courtroom and not dialogue questions as I remember

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u/Gettles 1d ago

There have been a billion law shows and maybe 5% were written by anyone who knew about how law works and maybe a dozen of that 5% were successful

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u/BearstromWanderer 1d ago

Next you're going to tell me Anthony Hopkins didn't partake in cannibalism in preparing for his role in The Silence of the Lambs.

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u/SnugglyCoderGuy 1d ago

Well that's just eating meat. Everyone knows how to do that!

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u/Magenta_Logistic 1d ago

It's more like expecting the writers of that film to have learned a little bit about FBI procedures and/or serial killer pathologies. You know, because they are writing a story about an FBI agent interviewing one serial killer in an attempt to catch another.

There's an adage in writing: write what you know. That means if you want to write something you don't know, learn.

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u/Dr__Sloth 1d ago

Of course not, he did it because he liked the taste.

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u/hey_Hey_I_saveD_me 1d ago

Also I think you could just get lawyer and some writer that likes comic books and bounce their ideas off each other to make some interesting episodes premises.

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u/DupeyTA 1d ago

The law system. Not the law. 

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u/draglide 1d ago

Matlock for millennials

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u/NIN10DOXD 1d ago

That’s just the new Matlock which knows even less about the law than She-Hulk.

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u/cubecasts 1d ago

No but they had a whole thing about her twerking for some reason

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u/beeeel 1d ago

Disney don't need writers that know the comics, they've shown they will just put anything on screen as long as there's enough minutes of content released per year.

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u/BadSafecracker 1d ago

Half the time, Disney doesn't even hire writers for Marvel comics that know comics.

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u/beeeel 1d ago

They really showed their philosophy on the matter when they decided to ignore decades of Star Wars Extended Universe writing from dozens of authors which was much loved by many of the fans. It's a failure to recognise what actually makes these franchises valuable: the fans that care.

The value, of course, can be tapped into for a number of years without caring about it but it's a finite resource and the dwindling viewership of the wider MCU projects (and as for Star Wars, it's telling that A New Hope was the most watched SW film in 2025).

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u/BadSafecracker 1d ago

I wouldn't even call myself a huge Star Wars fan, but I have seen all eleven movies before this year in the theater (yeah, I'm that old). I even bought all the Heir to the Empire books when they came out (I have a first edition hardcover of each).

I didn't see the Mandalorian movie because, 1. I never watched the show, 2. I have seen how little Disney cares about the writing, and 3. I just don't care anymore (because of #2).

I'm not even mad and raising my fist in the air at Disney, I just saw that they didn't care about SW so why should I care.

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u/StratoSquir2 1d ago

Get Vince Gilligan on that shit, call it "Hulking-Good"
Or Taylor Hackford and name it "the Daredevil's Advocate"

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u/RawrRRitchie 1d ago

I don't think there's any real world case law regarding super powered individuals

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u/DupeyTA 1d ago

Law system.

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u/Alarming-Cow299 1d ago

I'm glad that DC at least is willing to let their stuff be exist beyond just "superhero show" so now we get a True-Detective style mystery starring Hal Jordan and John Stewart, a Clayface horror movie, etc.

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u/IllLynx562 1d ago

David E kelly. That is all

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u/IllLynx562 1d ago

Kelley* it won't let me edit

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 1d ago

It is kinda what they did, where she defended Abomination.

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u/FunnyButSad 1d ago

This was basically the pitch for she Hulk, but then they realised they didn't have anyone on the team that had any experience writing courtroom drama so they pivoted.

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u/DaddysABadGirl 1d ago

Just talked about it on a marvel sub but thats what kills me with Iron Heart. They canceled Armor Wars, what fans were actually excited for and had been waiting for and instead picked IH. They said they were gonna roll the plotlines together than nixed that idea. People were saying how it made more sense to have Riri show up in AW (especially as an early antagonist that turns aly) and you could get the bonus of giving her a solid connection to the established world, an in with Stark Industries, and a potential mentor figure or friend in Rhodey.

They chose none of the above. Fans will say exactly what they fucking want and will just get ignored.

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u/Cloud-VII 1d ago

They would be 100% be stressed out trying to figure out where to put all of the CGI.

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u/crazyfoxdemon 1d ago

It's what a lot of us hoped the show would be.

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u/JimboTCB 1d ago

Best we can do is Megan Thee Stallion twerking with She-Hulk

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u/Morak73 1d ago

Law and Order: MCU. Misty Knight and Coleen Wing in the first half hour. Murdock and Walters for the second.

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u/KingoftheMongoose 1d ago

“These are their stories.”

DUN DUN… ….SMASH!

Jen then breaks fourth wall of the Dick Wolf cold open and cracks a joke about smashing is unironically what she and Matt will end up doing once every episode. “And. It. Gets. Graphic.”

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u/Nu-Hir 1d ago

Murdock and Walters are both defense lawyers, so wouldn't really work. Unless they are the newest Marvel teamup, The Public Defenders.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 1d ago

That's where I thought they were going to go with the series. Like have Shang Chi come on for an episode or more Wong... I mean, what's wrong with having more Wong?

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u/JohnnyGooch 1d ago

That’s good, after watching the season I would have taken it another direction (gonna show my age here) by making this in the vein of Night Court. Seeing her representing C/D-list superheroes in all kinds of ridiculous cases while the season long baddie arc played out as well. I would have much more enjoyed that thinking they would have a little more creative freedom making it a bit more comedic and showcasing some lesser known heroes/villians.

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u/DueCharacter5 1d ago

Basically a couple of her comicbook runs.

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u/sethro919 1d ago

So like Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law but with superheroes except cartoon characters? That would kick ass

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u/Hungry_Caregiver734 1d ago

Exactly. He'll, I'd even take the same lanky animation style.

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u/YuushyaHinmeru 1d ago

Pretty sure thats just a solid jj video

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u/APerson662 1d ago

As cool as it is to see Matt in other MCU projects, I feel like he should probably stick to the stuff that's tonally similar to Daredevil.

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u/Doctor-Amazing 1d ago

I recall an interview when the show came out where someone said that was the original intention.

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u/Thrownaway5000506 1d ago

Instead they turn Iron Fist into a boardroom drama

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u/12InchCunt 1d ago

Same vein: I’d watch the shit out of a Star Trek-like series in the MCU, after humans reverse engineer FTL from the wreckage of the many attacks on earth

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u/AssistanceCheap379 1d ago

I wonder if She-Hulk could effectively work as a shady lawyer that uses her Hulk to get what she wants. Like basically a “i mean, you can give me what i want, or you can deal with… her…” but at the same time she doesnt control her Hulk and only share memories and basic goals.

I also think it is weird she would stay as Legal Hulk basically all the time.

It could be the alter ego, which she hides but Matt Murdoch learns about and that causes friction between the 2 as they try to work different cases together. Could even have a case about toxic spills and Matt saying something like “i cant believe someone would lie about it, stay silent about such a HUGE issue…” and Jennifer is too tired to even realise it cause she was up all night getting info from criminals related to it when Daredevil heard of Hulk causing a ruckus at the harbor and saw her transform back into herself.

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u/Funkycoldmedici 1d ago

She-Hulk comics have traditionally been comedy, rather than drama. There’s been more romantic-drama runs, but they have been the exception.

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u/Professional-Box4153 1d ago

Funnier if they include that after they are opposing each other in court they're hooking up at night after the lights go out.

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u/Commercial_Ad5077 1d ago

I wish you had been at the production table to submit this. Would’ve been cinematic gold! 🙌

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u/GuardWolfy 1d ago

It should have leaned more into Harvey Birdman than Boston Legal.  The courtroom antics were the best part, while the law office and personal stuff were the worst.  And the less said about the finale the better. 

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u/Lupusan 1d ago

Harvey birdman attorney at law

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u/gnomesrhuntingme 1d ago

Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law did it best.

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u/Striking-Kiwi-9470 1d ago

So a more serious Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law.

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u/ifwedidntlaugh 1d ago

a la harvey birdman attorney at law?

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u/Hungry_Caregiver734 1d ago

Exactly like that.

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u/ifwedidntlaugh 1d ago

i'd watch it, that would be hilarious

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u/The_Flying_Lunchbox 1d ago

Just like how Falcon and Winter Soldier would work better as a light hearted “buddy cop” thing. There are ways to make these work, but they don’t do them.

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u/Ilickedthecinnabar 1d ago

For me, the episode with Matt (and his walk of shame) was the best of the whole She-Hulk series. Tatiana Maslany did a great job with the character, but was unfortunately hampered by poor writing and executive meddling, and I would really like to see her come back in future projects.

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u/gloakley 1d ago

I agree. But then again I would watch Tatiana Maslany read the phone book, so I may not have an unbiased opinion.

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u/help_undertanding13 1d ago

This is what I thought they were going to do! 

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u/Curious_Respond1438 1d ago

The new DC show they have planned, The People Vs Gorilla Grodd, might be what you're looking for

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u/Draco-REX 1d ago

I would watch this. There's a web novel of a similar vein, but it's not an established universe. It's written by a lawyer so the insight into how trials work from the lawyer's perspective is really neat. Then there's the superpower bent to it that's fun.

EDIT: Don't know why I felt I shouldn't name it. FoxFire, Esq. https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/102618/foxfire-esq

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u/butler_me_judith 1d ago

This would've been great! I really liked the she hulk actress she was funny

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u/baldy-84 1d ago

She-Hulk is an absolute gimme of a concept. They just needed to get some writers from crime procedural shows involved.

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u/Hungry_Caregiver734 20h ago

Exactly. And it isn't like there aren't already 200 alphabet soup crime dramas out there they could wrangle a writer or 2 from.

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u/baldy-84 20h ago

Literally just Law & Order with a few hulk-outs per season = $$$. I don't know how they didn't get it.

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u/forkandbowl 23h ago

Have you totally forgotten about Harvey Birdman Attorney at Law?

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u/Kitesh713 1d ago

Fairly certain that was the idea for She-hulk, then some CLOWN made them twerk.