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u/MarsMaterial 10h ago

You don't know what that word means if you think that accusing a convicted conman of corruption counts as cultism.

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u/aminok 10h ago

You don't understand what indoctrination is if you don't think that this mass movement to vilify the US president every step is not a cult.

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u/MarsMaterial 10h ago

So I guess the non-cult thing to do would be to let Trump get away with every bit of corruption he does no matter how brazen, and pay no attention whatsoever to the most powerful man in the world? The man has a Watergate-level scandel about every 2 weeks.

Do you also think that the mass movement to vilify Hitler is a cult? Just curious, since clearly you seem to think that that's what being in a cult means.

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u/aminok 9h ago

The non-cult thing to do would be to recognize the absolute insanity of what the socialists are doing and what they are advocating.

They allowed millions of people to enter the United States illegally and aggressively lobbied against enforcement of the basic immigration laws a country needs in order to exist. They want lawlessness, then act like the biggest victims on earth — and the most outraged people — when a party comes to power that wants to enforce those laws. They have twisted and redefined words like "fascism" and "authoritarianism" so that simply enforcing a law against illegal immigration now counts as those things.

That is the first thing these people would stop doing if they were not part of an insane cult.

The second thing they would do is stop trying to force girls and women to compete against boys and men in athletic competitions. That demand rests on a cult-like belief that if you believe you are a woman, you suddenly become one, and that being a woman has nothing to do with biology.

Then there is the economic record. They advocate policies that the vast majority of economists recognize as harmful to the economy. Their major party, the Democrats, is completely beholden to public-sector unions. Those unions are the single biggest recipients of government spending and they turn around and become the primary backers of the Democratic Party. That is quid pro quo. It is structural corruption: the government funds the special interests that fund the politicians, who then keep subsidizing those same interests.

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u/MarsMaterial 9h ago

Meanwhile in reality: immigrants are just people (there is no magic that makes people evil just because they were born in the wrong side of an imaginary line), it’s not the government’s job to legislate how sports institutions can allow a ball to be kicked (that’s insane and authoritarian), civil rights are good (including for trans people), and the economy reliably does better under Democrats than Republicans.

The insane mental gymnastics you need to deny all of this is insane. It’s just like OP’s comic shows, you are blinded by paranoia against your fellow citizen to the point where you ignore the subliterate pedophile billionaires robbing you blind. Your life is worse and yet you celebrate because the people you hate are experiencing even more pain than you, it’s a damn murder-suicide cult.

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u/aminok 9h ago

Meanwhile, back in reality:

• someone doesn't obtain a right to illegally immigrate into a country just because of a vague platitude like "immigrants are just people". Immigration laws need to be enforced or else a nation as an entity ceases to be meaningful. Imagine if anyone could just walk into Syria and live there without the government of Syria having any say in the matter. Or Italy, or Ghana, or Nigeria, or Cambodia. Nations exist as entities that control who can enter and who is a citizen. Your vague platitudes don't address that, but resorting to that is exactly the kind of cult-like reaction I'm talking about.

• It is absolutely the government's job to ensure women's rights are being protected in the institutions that it operates or funds, whether that be public schools or colleges that receive significant state subsidies.

• Protecting the civil rights of girls and women to have their own single-sex bases is good. And pandering to people who are in a cult and believe that they can magically change their gender just by thinking they're the opposite gender is not protecting civil rights. It's protecting ideological extremism and imposing it on defenseless people.

And the economy does vastly better under Republicans:

The White House doesn't control fiscal policy. It can impact short-term growth, but that impact tells you nothing about the long-term trajectory that the White House is able to put the country on by, for example, solving long-standing foreign policy problems or regulatory problems. For example, if you change a regulatory system to eliminate the suffocating morass of restrictions that require companies to wait over a year, sometimes five years just to get a permit to build a new factory, that's not going to show up in GDP statistics in the same administration, but it will in 10 or 20 years.

If you want to actually compare how that different approaches to governance work, you have to look at states, red states versus blue states. Just compare the largest red state to the largest blue state, Texas versus California.

California is very rich today because of policies it had many decades ago. Those policies were what we would think of as Republican policies today. Those policies are what led to Los Angeles becoming the largest oil producing region in the world in the 1920s. The capital that the oil industry brought to Los Angeles is what allowed for the subsequent major industries to emerge.

Today, thanks to Republican policies, Texas is growing much more rapidly than California. California is much more expensive and much slower to build. In 2025, California electricity was about 32 cents/kWh, versus about 15-16 cents/kWh in Texas. California permitted about 102,000 homes, or 2.6 homes per 1,000 residents; Texas permitted about 226,000, or 7.1 per 1,000 residents.

The rent gap is just as significant. California's two biggest cities were around $2,762/month in Los Angeles and $2,959 in San Diego. Texas's two biggest cities were around $1,357 in Houston and $1,289 in San Antonio.

And Texas also added more jobs. From 2015 to 2025, California went from about 16.1 million to 18.0 million jobs, adding about 2.0 million jobs, equal to about 5% of its 2025 population. Texas went from about 11.9 million to 14.3 million jobs, adding about 2.4 million jobs, equal to about 7.7% of its population. And it maintained this high jobs created to population ratio despite a huge influx of people, including many Californians moving to Texas.

California is losing 10-25% of its Medicaid program to fraud. It spent $100 billion and it couldn't build a high-speed rail line. It revolved this entire political culture around environmentalism and renewables and Texas outbuilds it 4 to 1 in solar panels.

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u/MarsMaterial 8h ago

someone doesn't obtain a right to illegally immigrate into a country just because of a vague platitude like "immigrants are just people".

Funny how you have to resort to defending the legality of immigration enforcement, because you can't defend its morality. Slavery was also legal you know, back when that existed someone could have similarly argued "a negro's status as a human doesn't give him the right to be a free man". But the point is: it should. People should not be subjected to different laws based on the circumstances of their birth, whether it be skin color or birthplace. This is a basic tenant of America's founding ideology. We hold these truths be to self-evident that all men are created equal.

Imagine if anyone could just walk into Syria and live there without the government of Syria having any say in the matter. Or Italy, or Ghana, or Nigeria, or Cambodia. Nations exist as entities that control who can enter and who is a citizen.

Nations exist as entities with sovereignty over land. Controlling who enters or leaves is not needed at all, that's just what authoritarian and apartheid shitholes do. The nations of the EU allow free travel between EU nations, the states of the USA allow free travel between the states, this has not threatened the sovereignty of either. What if we just did that, but for the world?

It is absolutely the government's job to ensure women's rights are being protected in the institutions that it operates or funds, whether that be public schools or colleges that receive significant state subsidies.

There are already institutions that exist to govern this sort of thing, and after listening to the scientific consensus they have made the determination that athletic performance is caused by hormone levels and that trans people who have undergone hormone replacement therapy have altered athletic performance based on those new hormones. But the government decided to step in and say "no, listen to us actually, the dumbest hogs in Wyoming decided that you need to change your ruling".

And don't these institutions also have the responsibility to ensure that tran rights are also protected? Or does that not matter to you?

Protecting the civil rights of girls and women to have their own single-sex bases is good.

Literally arguing that the right to have segregated spaces is a "civil right". Is this a fucking joke?

And pandering to people who are in a cult and believe that they can magically change their gender just by thinking they're the opposite gender is not protecting civil rights.

Can you find me a source to the claim that literally anyone on Earth believe that magically shapeshifting genitalia with your mind powers is a real thing? This is just a lie that gets told about progressives, because Republicans know that if they told the truth about progressives it wouldn't be quite as easy to hatemonger and fearmonger about them. It's a classic example of cult information control, as detailed in the BITE model.

The reality is that gender is not the same thing as biological sex. Every progressive ever will tell you this, but you choose to not believe them and believe the lies instead that the minorities are all stupid actually. Just like how cultists spread lies about how all nonbelievers are subversive and evil people who secretly know that the cult is right and work to undermine it because they hate the truth. Same shit.

And the economy does vastly better under Republicans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

"US economic performance has consistently varied by the political party of the US President. According to many economic metrics (including job creation, GDP growth, stock market returns, personal income growth, and corporate profits), since World War II the United States economy has performed significantly better during the administration of Democratic presidents, compared with Republican presidents. Of these, the most statistically significant differences are in real GDP growth, unemployment rate change, stock market annual return, and job creation rate."

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u/CreepyNight3229 9h ago

Hey I saw your username and I totally remember you. I just want to add that you need to relax and distance yourself from negative stuff more. *sending positive vibes*