honestly i've reached the point where i don't think arguing with men is even worth it anymore.
beyond the paternalistic and condescending attitude they take whenever they are talking to a woman, they almost always assume that, because they're men, they automatically know more than you, even when it's something you're literally educated about. the truth is that they simply don't want to listen.
i recently had a conversation with a man after i commented that telling men "the patriarchy hurts men too" is pointless because they don't care. and even when they do care, they only care about fixing the tiny part of patriarchy that affects them, not the overwhelming majority that harms women.
he got offended and claimed that feminist men only care about women, not men, and that this is why men are supposedly the oppressed sex in society.
i didn't even want to turn it into a historical or sociological debate, so i gave him a simple example. so many men complain that it's unfair to be expected to pay for everything in a relationship or marriage (mind they set that sistem up and even through history we saw periods where women often couldn't even earn their own income but anyway) and i pointed out that if they're against men paying for everything, they should also be against women being expected to do almost all the housework.
of course, he immediately changed the subject. he argued that men have harder jobs, work longer hours, that i couldn't possibly know who do the chores in other people's homes, and when i showed him statistics proving that women still do most domestic labor in heterosexual relationships, he claimed nobody conducts research on "stupid things" like that and then blocked me.
that's exactly my point. men don't care about women, and they don't care about misogyny because it doesn't affect them. even when you show clear evidence that women are oppressed, they'll stay in complete denial and insist that men are the real victims now.
this is also one of the biggest reasons why i dislike the way some women try to gentle parent men by explaining that they should support feminism because patriarchy hurts them too. one of the main reasons i align myself with radical feminism is that i genuinely don't believe feminism needs to center men's problems.
unfortunately, mainstream feminism is moving in a direction where if you're a feminist who only prioritizes women, people act as if you can't be a "real feminist." but feminism was literally created to fight for the liberation of women and for women's equality in a patriarchal society.
throughout history, it wasn't men starting feminist movements for women. it was women. i don't understand why there's now this expectation that, unless a feminist advocates equally for men, she's somehow not a true feminist.