r/SiblingSexualAbuse • u/AdTiny6238 • 1d ago
early memories flooding back and husband's reaction
i made a throwaway account because i don't want this to be identified with my posts elsewhere on reddit.
recently, childhood memories have been flooding back. it's not that i'd ever forgotten any of it, but i haven't thought much about it in a long time, and now all of the sudden i'm having dreams and intrusive thoughts about it. to make it worse, i made the mistake of telling my husband about this and his reaction isn't helping me, to say the least. more on that later.
for context i'm a middle-aged woman now, and all of this happened several decades ago, starting when i was about eight or nine and ending when i was 13. my brother is 3 years older than me. i guess you could technically say he abused me for those years, because he was the older one, and should have been old enough to know better.
the thing is, i never really thought of it as abuse. not even later, as i grew up. i always thought of it as just childish secret stuff we did together. he never forced me to do anything i didn't want to do, or at least think i wanted to do. and while i always implicitly knew it was "wrong" it was also exciting and, yes, pleasurable.
i was just always curious about sex and bodies. i thought everyone was. i was a voracious reader beyond my grade level and after i finished all the judy blume books at the library i started reading books for teens, some of which were pretty graphic in their descriptions, not in a lewd way but realistic (this was the 80s), and i also had found a sexual health textbook for teens with illustrations, so i figured i knew more or less what was up.
when i was in grade school i used to persuade my girl friends to get undressed and even take baths with me. mostly they were willing to do that and in some cases mutual touching ensued. it didn't seem like a big deal and it mostly stopped when we got older. so i'd seen other girls' bodies but not boys', and i was curious about my brother, who i always looked up to. he was generally nice to me but while we played together as kids he obviously was busy with school and his own friends as he got older.
when he was starting puberty at 12 or so i could tell he was curious about me too. i would notice him staring at my chest for example. i was a little bit on the chubby side and started developing (just little bumps of course) very early. i guess the thing is, i kind of encouraged the attention. i used to wear loose-fitting shirts and lean over in front of him on purpose. and i never used to wear panties under my favorite long nightgown, and i'd sit with the hem around my knees when we were watching tv. for whatever reason i wanted him to look, i liked that i could draw his attention just by doing stuff like that.
of course i had to keep provoking him to keep him interested. and eventually i figured out a way, i would ask him to judge a beauty contest (of course i was the only contestant). i'd do poses and he'd give me a score from 1-10. of course the more i showed the higher his score would be and i kept getting more and more daring until i'd just be naked and even do things like showing him my private parts close up. we both knew what was up and when our parents were out (which was often) he'd often suggest we play the beauty contest game, and i'd always agree. after a while we would both get naked and i could satisfy my own curiosity about his body. to be honest i was kind of grossed out at first by his thing and the way it'd get stiff, plus he was starting to get hair down there, but of course i was also fascinated.
we did this, on and off, for much longer, i think, than could be attributed to "normal" childhood sex play. i mean to be clear there was never any actual incest or whatever. we mostly showed off and looked and there was some cautious mutual touching at times. it was kind of on and off, we'd go for months without doing anything then start up again. i was often the one who would start it, it definitely wasn't a matter of him making me do it, but of course especially once he was in his teens i guess he should have known better?
i had a friend who had a big crush on my brother and she also was quite forward with me. once she wanted to play truth or dare, and i agreed. after some silly stuff the big dare was to go expose ourselves to my brother who was maybe 13. that time actually he just sort of laughed it off, but another time at a sleepover we all played together and once we all got naked and dared each other to masturbate. my friend showed me how and that was the first time i had a "real" orgasm (i'd had very nice feelings from touching myself or rubbing against things before). afterwards i felt embarrassed about doing that in front of my brother, and maybe it bothered him too, because we didn't do anything for a while after that. but it also became a scenario that i'd visualize when i touched myself.
then maybe a year later i had another friend who i knew my brother thought was cute and i persuaded her to not wear panties and "show off' to my brother. that led to our all getting naked together but nothing else happened. but that kind of started it up again. at this point i was starting to get hair down there and breasts and i wasn't confident about my body. i kind of didn't want hium to see me but i also really cared about what he thought, so i suggested the beauty contest thing again (we hadn't used that "excuse" for a long time). at first i didn't plan to get naked but of course he encouraged me. i'd ask him whether he thought i was as cute as my friend (the one he thought was cute) and of course he was nice and told me i was cuter. i didn't believe it but i wanted to keep him interested and naturally we ended up getting naked again. actually i'd say his interest really did bolster my self-confidence.
he said he wanted to hold me and touch me while we were naked but health class had taught me to be terrified of getting pregnant and i refused. but to be honest i kind of wanted him to touch me and hold me. he was really interested in my breasts and i on multiple occasions i let him fondle my breasts as i sat in his lap (with both of us wearing clothes but i had no bra and his hand was under my shirt). honestly this excited him a more than me, as i could tell while we were doing it - and after. and truly i really wanted to be touched down there but was also too scared to ever do that.
once my brother started high school we basically stopped all this stuff. he ended up having girlfriends and stuff and presumably wasn't interested in me at all. our relationship was actually pretty close in a brother-sister way for a while, i was always at odds with my parents and would confide in him, and i had crushes on classmates (boys and girls) and he'd give me advice. there were some mildly weird interactions, like for a while we were going out on sort of pseudo-dates where we'd go to the movies or out for lunch and we'd hold hands or he'd put his arm around me, but really it was all very sweet and felt totally unrelated to the stuff we'd done in the past. i felt like i was practicing dating and was really grateful for the attention though i know now that it's weird.
the last time anything "untoward" happened i was 13 and he was 16, maybe almost 17. he was all busy applying to college and i was getting ready for high school and really all the stuff we'd done seened like ancient history by then. i don't remember exactly how it started, we were talking about sex and i joked about how i'd seen him making out with a girlfriend in his bedroom i think. i don't remember the sequence of events though. we ended up getting naked but i was embarrassed to really prance around in front of him like we had before. i was pretty fully devoped at that point. we got under the covers together and sort of cuddled for a while. it was really nice, nothing else happened, we didn't touch each other intimately or anything, just cuddled naked.
after that i just basically... forgot about it all for the rest of my life. i don't mean i was suppressing it or whatever. i never actually forgot anything, just didn't think about it very much. it never felt like trauma. i've read about sibling sexual abuse, quite a lot recently as the memories have started coming back a lot, and what i read mostly doesn't seem to match my experience. i guess technically it was a classic older-brother-abuses-younger-sister scenario but it's hard for me to see it that way as i feel like i was a willing or even eager participant in pretty much everything we ever did. i always come to the conclusion that my brother was clearly old enough to know better but also that he never forced me to do stuff i didn't want to, and lots of times i was the one to initiate it, although obviously he always "took the bait."
and now all of a sudden all this history that has lain in the back of my mind for 30+ years is flooding back. i have weird dreams where i'm back doing stuff with my brother and sometimes we actually make love, which of course never happened. i sometimes find myself fantasizing about those days when i pleasure myself. which is a lot because things have been a bit rocky between my husband and myself of late and i still have a pretty strong sex drive. i don't really want to fantasize about these things but when i get excited it just sort of comes to my mind.
a couple of weeks ago my husband and i were in bed, on the verge of getting intimate for the first time in months. before we had sex i really wanted to clear up the "cloud" that i feel we've been living under for a couple years now, without knowing why or what's wrong, and i begged him to open up to me. he didn't have too much to say and the talk kind of meandered around and at some point, without really intending to i blurted out that my brother had "abused" me, which i instantly realized was the wrong thing to say, but i couldn't take it back. he got absolutely furious and was ranting about how i should tell my parents and never see my brother again and all sorts of angry shit like that. i told him it wasn't like it sounded and i wasn't angry at my brother and that just made it much worse, he wanted to know all the details and of course i didn't want to tell him and eventually i just shut down and said it was ancient history and i wasn't ever going to bring it up to anyone and he should forget i even mentioned it.
needless to say i screwed up that whole interaction and my husband has behaved pretty coldly towards me ever since. i do not believe he would ever understand or forgive either my brother or, if he knew the whole story, me. and that has had the effect of making me feel far more traumatized than the actual history with my brother ever did. i feel like somehow i am defective because i never thought any of this was such a big deal, if that makes any sense. i know it doesn't but it's still hard to shake the conviction that there must be something wrong with me. but i never felt that in the past, it's my husband's reaction that's really got me off balance.
i don't know... feels goot to get it all out anonymously in any case.