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😡 Venting Breaking: Four House Democrats just introduced an amendment to condemn socialism & the DSA. Josh Gottheimer (NJ) Hillary Scholten (MI) Tom Suozzi (NY) Jared Moskowitz (FL) We’re living through the horrors of capitalism while Democrats join with Republicans to condemn socialism.

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u/El_Chilangisimo 3h ago

That’s a weird way to say you don’t want to be a house representative anymore.

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u/Dependent_Title_1370 3h ago

That's because most of them work for the same people, billionaires and Israel.

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u/Nahteh 2h ago

And people wonder why they say "both sides". We have a right of center party and an authoritarian right party.

We have no leftist party, we have no small government party.

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u/Dependent_Title_1370 2h ago edited 2h ago

Hopefully the DSA can change that. It feels a bit like how the tea party influenced the Republican party. Hopefully the magnitude of the effects is equal or better. Just, you know, in a positive direction.

Edit: My comparison to the tea party was meant to point out how a small group grew and fundamentally altered the Republican party. I want that for the democratic party. I want it fundamentally altered into a party that actually serves the American people. I was in no way commenting on the nature or goals of the tea party.

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u/ToraRyeder 2h ago

The big difference with the DSA and The Tea Party is that DSA has been working for decades in grassroots campaigns spanning more than just electoral. We care about people's rights and abilities to live a life without the hanging knife over our heads that is capitalism.

The Tea Party was solely reactionary and fighting to stop something that they didn't like. Yeah, DSA is loud about not liking many things but overall the goals are focused on helping ALL people. Even if you don't vote for us, we still want you to have healthcare.

That community building is also useful in local elections and movements as well. We're seeing a push against data centers, people coming to city council meetings for the first time ever, and we're seeing people demand accountability and actually following through with it.

Times are scary but I have a lot of faith and hope right now. It will not be easy. These monsters will not leave power easily. We know that. We just have to keep together because the people united will always win in the end.

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u/FireOfOrder 2h ago

I fucking love this part of your comment "Even if you don't vote for us, we still want you to have Healthcare".

Perfectly encapsulates my feelings on this.

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u/ComradeJohnS 2h ago

yeah but tea party and maga benefit the rich, so it’s not as easily attainable.

there’s always hope and McStrokes

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u/Individual-Nebula927 2h ago

The Tea Party also wasn't real. It was astroturfed by billionaires

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u/Chaghatai 2h ago

"small government" is what corporations wants so that they always have more power

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u/Nahteh 1h ago

Not entirely true. Regulatory capture goes both ways. Its also wielded as a tool against would be competitors.

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u/kelpyb1 2h ago

Corporate Dems completely suck ass, but your explanation here quite literally is delineating between the two sides and how one is way better than the other despite also being bad.

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u/Background-Wolf-9380 2h ago

The 2 parties are 85%+ aligned in their opposition to anything that benefits average Americans. Sure there is that 15% that includes continuing the farse of democracy where we must always choose an evil person to rule us rather than any possible chance of someone to actually represent us but what good are those when we know we'll never see progress from any of this? My 2 Senators and 1 Congressman do not give a single shit about what we want or what is actually good for me and my neighbors and they're all Democrats. Am I supposed to think that marginal difference between them and the Republicans is important when I know I'm getting only Republican or Republican lite policies?

They're all in the Epstein Predator Class and they all maintain solidarity in opposition to the people they're supposed to represent.

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u/Nahteh 1h ago

I'll never understand what compels people to deny this.

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u/JermstheBohemian 1h ago

Most people want a binary good versus evil paradigm and to find out both sides are evil and you've been supporting one evil sides your entire life unknowingly is a shock of most people cannot tolerate.

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u/Some-Guy-12358 2h ago

And people wonder why they say "both sides".

Nobody is wondering why it's said. They call out the stupidity of the people that keep regurgitating the idea when it's obviously untrue. If we had elected Kamala we would not currently be in a war with Iran, we would not be imposing tariffs on Canada, etc.

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u/Nahteh 1h ago

Those differences while important still fit within reasonable bounds for the goals of both parties. We need to fight for the things that both parties denies us.

As long as you fight for peanuts like kamala vs trump we are going to continue to get shafted.

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u/freediverx01 40m ago

If we'd had a real primary and if the DNC had allowed the best candidate to win democratically without their usual ratfucking, we'd have had a far stronger candidate who didn't campaign on doubling down on the genocide while cozying up to billionaires.

With the so-called centrists in charge, the Dems have lost TWICE to Trump.

How's that old saying go? Repeating the same thing while expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity.

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u/BathroomAggressive57 36m ago

And we still wouldn't have healthcare or a minimum wage that is keeping up with the times. Republicans are horrible. Democrats are just mostly terrible.

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u/mp3junk3y 2h ago

And pedophiles, don't forget the pedophiles.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 2h ago

4 House democrats out of 212 House democrats are not "most of them"

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u/Dependent_Title_1370 2h ago

They aren't the only ones. If you pay attention you'll see the establishment Democrats rotate who sides with Republicans to pass legislation beneficial to Billionaires and other special interest. This allows them to constantly shift blame while maintaining the facade of being an opposition party.

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u/ofWildPlaces 48m ago

But only those 4 have tied to codify their standpoint with a document. It's not "most" Democrats.

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u/fednandlers 2h ago

It’s nice to see this not be downvoted by confused Democrat voters as it has been for over 20 years on this site. They still ask “how come the Democrats…?” But theyre finally, slowly starting to figure it out. 

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u/i_give_you_gum 1h ago

That stupid both sides narrative (usually touted by closet conservatives) is how we got the present lunatic in power.

And like others are saying, it's 4 out of 212.

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u/IntwadHelck 1h ago

Incorrect. We got the lunatic because so many people refuse to vote for evil-lite like Kamala. If there’s a real candidate offered, people vote.

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u/Dependent_Title_1370 2h ago

Democrats have been pretending to be an opposition party for my entire life. Hopefully DSA can come in and make sweeping reforms.

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u/archenlander 2h ago

“Most of them” there’s 4 listed

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u/Ok_Jello_6042 20m ago

Groyper or leftist? I can never tell anymore

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u/Riaayo 5m ago

They just work for billionaires. Israel is just working for billionaires with more steps through the military industrial complex and imperialism.

Israel gets so much support because it's a bottomless war-spending pit for the MIC (which billionaires own and run), and of course it acts as the US' de-facto military base in the region for our imperialism.

I think Israel has tail-wagged-the-dog to a degree with Trump and the Iran war, buy American war hawks have wanted war with Iran for like 40 years.

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u/seidenkaufman 3h ago

If we were to check their accounts, they would be filled with corporate donations and shifty superpacs. They are paid henchmen, and the title of Representative before their name represents immoral and greedy grift, not the people.

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u/Harbinger2nd 2h ago

Alternative headline

The revolving cast of villains exposes itself to the country.

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u/seidenkaufman 2h ago

Remember their names and primary them until they are replaced with people who possess ethics and decency.

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u/an0mn0mn0m 51m ago
Representative Congressional District Pro-Israel Money Associated From AIPAC-Linked Committees FEC-Verified Direct Contributions Committees Backing this Member
Josh Gottheimer New Jersey 05 $2,001,136 $896,058 $274,717 AIPAC, DMFI, NORPAC
Hillary Scholten Michigan 03 $369,136 $58,876 $59,159 AIPAC, DMFI, JStreet
Jared Moskowitz Florida 23 $522,577 $258,850 $78,105 AIPAC, DMFI, JAC, USI PAC
Tom Suozzi New York 03 $252,342 $0 $43,047 AIPAC, DMFI, NORPAC, JAC, Pro-Israel America, USI PAC

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u/wafflesthewonderhurs 30m ago

damn tom is doing it for the straight up love of the game compared to josh

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u/an0mn0mn0m 23m ago

Feels like he would pay AIPAC to do their bidding.

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u/Dull_Bid6002 21m ago

My initial reaction was "I bet AIPAC is connected to them" and look at that.

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u/plumberfun 3h ago

Vote the Neoliberals out!

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u/Loud-Ad-2280 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 3h ago

But then who will write strongly worded letters?!?!? 😱

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u/medorian 3h ago

Healthcare for All

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u/BigIrondude 2h ago

And the only way to do this is to clean house.

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u/windraver 1h ago

The US is the only first world wealthy nation without universal healthcare

https://www.worldatlas.com/society/countries-without-universal-healthcare-55525.html

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u/MadeByTango 11m ago

Not just healthcare for all. Minimum housing standards for all. Basic food needs met for all.

And a system of law that puts judges behind bars when they commit graft...

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u/pflanzenpotan 3h ago

Wild that democrats will fight people that want real progress, anti corruption and for their taxes to go to their communities over the pedophile endorsing, war criminal allowing, corporate shithole of a government 

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u/chobanithatiused2kno 3h ago

The former doesn’t fill their coffers.

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u/PM-ME-YOUR-HAPPY 2h ago

It's the anti corruption part. The system doesn't really matter, unchecked corruption always leads to the same outcomes.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 2h ago

why are you painting the whole of the democratic party just cause 4 democrats voted on something you disagree with

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u/ToraRyeder 2h ago

Because they're noticing the pattern that the democratic party always has.

Something is incredibly unpopular, but just enough democrats side with the republicans to make it work.

People want change and progress? Shocker, the democratic party wants to stop it because that's just what they do. This has been a pattern for over a decade.

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u/MadeByTango 2h ago

80% of the country agrees with the DSA, not the DNC or the GOP...the two "big" parties just use the words we say but then fail to explain the truth about their own bills.

The way the system is works is that they propose a corporate friendly idea, slather something on top both sides" will hate, then run "messaging" until they get everyone evenly divided, at which point they "vote" and "compromise" by "stopping the [identity politics based fear], but they had to let the corpration's guy on the other side get what they wanted."

Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Regarldess of which party is "winning", the corporations that "hedged their bets" on both campaigns are ALWAYS getting what they were after.

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u/akatherder 15m ago

It's a pattern. The DNC was against Sanders in 2016. Cuomo ran against Mamdani in NYC. Schumer, a Senator from NY and the Minority Leader, wouldn't endorse Mamdani after he won the democrat primary. I live in Michigan and I'm waiting to see who does and doesn't support Abdul El-Sayed, but I have a feeling the establishment Dems won't be out in droves to get him elected.

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u/Rionin26 3h ago

Got 5 who need to be primaried and lose their seats.

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u/appoplecticskeptic 3h ago

There were only 4 listed. Who’s the fifth?

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u/jameson8016 3h ago

I'd guess Jeffries. His name may not be on this, but his fingerprints are.

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u/Ishaq128 3h ago

Jeffries who elevated these pieces of shit to top committee positions.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 2h ago

what top committee positions do they hold?

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u/Ishaq128 2h ago

Multiple pro israel congressional reps were put in charge of the foreign affairs committee. People like moskowitz are israel first and support israel and america bombing iran.

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u/beats-beets 2h ago

Well moskowitz just won his

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u/urbansociety 2h ago

Economic labels are how you discern which people want to make life affordable. Socialist are for worker empowerment, capitalist represent owner interests. The capitalist want you poor and desperate so you are willing to work longer for less. The socialist want to tax the wealth hoarders so you can access affordable healthcare, education, and be paid a livable wage.

People can claim to be anything though, and that's why you pay attention to actions. Words are air, but actions are eternal.

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u/Hyp3rson1c 2h ago

You’re responding to a porn bot

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u/JrSoftDev 1h ago

Those 2 concepts are deeply connected.

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u/Mosaic1 3h ago

Anyone got a link to the bill amendment? Cause this is just a statement/meme without evidence with no link.

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u/rancid_oil 2h ago

Some of my favorite quotes from that totally unbiased article:

DSA, which has leveraged affordability concerns to mount a power grab in Congress.

the repression and mass murder that results from the poisonous ideology.

the increasingly dangerous socialist takeover

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u/madbadanddangerous 48m ago

“Whereas socialist ideology necessitates a concentration of power that has, time and time again, collapsed into communist regimes, totalitarian rule, and repressive dictatorships;” began the Democrats’ amendment put out by Congressman Gottheimer’s office.

That's literally what capitalism does. Everything is privatized, wealth makes it easier to accrue more wealth, and since economic power is synonymous with financial value, power becomes centralized in the hands of the precious few who have the most wealth.

I would expect this gaslighting and rhetoric from the Republicans but the "left" (big airquotes there) party in the US should not be spinning this bullshit too

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u/tipsy-turtle-0985 2h ago

That proof isn't the #1 comment or even a part of the original post is why this shit is never going to be anything but internet meme bullshit.

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u/LookAlderaanPlaces 3h ago

Throw these fascist fake dems in jail for being complicit in the treason going down. Establishment dems are full blown republicans. If you want any proof of that just go watch the video of Hakeem Jeffries in the video interview where he says multiple times he is against Medicare for all or any type of single payer system. He is fully corrupted by corpo bullshit and should be jail.

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u/Acrobatic_Wrap_9971 28m ago

Not all Dems. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Don't give an inch to GOP/MAGA just because of a few spineless Dems.

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u/appoplecticskeptic 3h ago edited 3h ago

I love how in both photos they’re DINOs, that’s a good touch because they don’t want democracy even within their own party. So they are and should be labeled as Democrat In Name Only.

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u/mackofmontage 3h ago

Democrats are collectively pretty liberal which is technically center-left at best. So they are actually doing exactly what the name entails. Democrats have time and time again shown as much loyalty to the billionaire class as Republicans have. They are Democrats doing Democrat things.

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u/gratefulkittiesilove 2h ago

Pre neoliberal yes but the center has shifted right over time (Overton window ) as republicans have forced compromises while they shifted far right and democrats said sure boss and shifted right in response. Our representative democrats are basically where republicans were what 50 yrs ago? 25? The people? Prob more liberal if they didn’t get caught up in labels

Ask a European they have the full width of the political spectrum and have been telling us for years

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u/mackofmontage 2h ago edited 2h ago

That’s kinda what I’m saying tho.

Edit: But I understand the distinction you’re making and you right. Liberal wasn’t the right word to use. Point is that today’s Democrats are mostly right-leaning, in broader political terms.

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u/kaptainkooleio 3h ago

If the Dems fought for the working class as hard as they fought for Israel, republicans would never win an election.

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u/morgan423 2h ago

Kind of blows my mind that Corporate America can dump enough money to them to purchase them over choosing us.

If the Dems reformed and became a populist party right now, they'd become the most powerful political party that's ever existed in this country.

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u/Critical_Seat_1907 3h ago

Primary candidates should be lining up to take on these corrupt boot lickers.

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u/PlutoJones42 3h ago

Check their donors and vote them out. America needs a change. The US government needs to start working for the people, ALL of the people, instead of working for corporations.

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u/morgan423 2h ago

Gotta clean up SCOTUS first. As long as Citizens United stands, we (the general population) don't have a chance.

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u/ThatsBretsRope 1h ago

Moskowitz - $833,288 from Israel

Suozzi - $605,438 from Israel

Scholten - $413,999 from Israel

Gottheimer - $2,001,636 from Israel

I'm shocked /s

Zionists hate the DSA because of their opposition to funding the genocide in Palestine and the occupation of Lebanon.

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u/gookies5 21m ago

Not a high enough reply

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u/irascible_Clown 3h ago

The billionaire class will pull every stunt necessary to keep people separated these democrats are clearly paid for

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u/Kcirrot 3h ago

Honestly, they are pretty ineffectual on both counts. It's not like a resolution in Congress does anything.

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u/BonnaconCharioteer 56m ago

Just change the captions to "OP when Democrats send strongly worded letters to (DSA/Trump)"

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u/EthanPrisonMike 3h ago

Tactics of division

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u/Salt_End_4275 1h ago

The title is misleading: HR 1490 was introduced by Rep. Jeff Crank (R-Colo.). Also, HR 1490 has no weight of law, creates no rules or policies, and has no legislative impact. Resolutions are just political theatre that have no meaning to anyone other than bloviating about "anti-socialism". They are entirely symbolic.

People can complain that their Democratic representatives didn't push back on the resolution, but doing so is just lip service.

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u/GoldburstNeo 3h ago

Well then hopefully we see 4 new Democrats blow them out in their respective primaries.

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u/Rulligan 2h ago

Scholten wasn't primaried and is already on the ballot. She does more to condemn the DSA and El-Sayed than her actual opponent. After the primary every other Dem in the state (including Haley Stevens) announced they were endorsing El-Sayed while Scholten just said "we need to focus on November."

Scholtens district was won by El-Sayed in a fucking landslide.

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u/Atreides_Jr 3h ago

some very brave conservative democrats lol

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u/strawberries777 3h ago

Politics is rigged against the working class. Both parties are for the billionaires.

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u/TheUmberTaker 1h ago

Then the working class needs to stop working.  I'm game. 

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u/Rot-Orkan 2h ago

Look, people don't give a shit about communism/socialism/capitalism/whatever.

They just want healthcare, to be able to retire, and to be able to take a few weeks of time off a year.

None of these things are guaranteed in the US, but they are in other developed countries. And the only thing it would cost is is a few less billionaires.

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u/Responsible-Tap-3748 2h ago

I mean, the establishment definitely ratfucks the left at every opportunity, but an amendment that symbolically "condemns" the DSA is about as Barney as you can get.

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u/SeriousFollowing7678 1h ago

The DSA are literally just Democrats, by the way

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u/Ray_nj 3h ago

Josh Gottheimer? That sounds right. He sucks.

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u/TurbulentAd4088 3h ago

ok 4,

out of 217

and here's a post about it.

Don't forget, they want Dems and DemSocs fighting eachother.

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u/EnvironmentalValue18 3h ago

If any of your fucks did your jobs, you wouldn’t have to worry about the rise of anything else.

It was pretty universal that communism and socialism were strongly condemned by a majority of Americans for a very long time. Then you fucks both had your turns doing fuck all with super majorities and saying things like “you can’t have universal healthcare/paid maternity leave/guaranteed PTO/public infrastructure update/safety nets/etc - THAT’S SOCIALISM!” Best ad against yourselves and you played it on repeat.

I’d say history will not remember you kindly, but longterm it won’t even remember you at all because you did nothing of consequence. Fuck the ruling class.

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u/drewc717 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 3h ago

Lol they're going to be replaced by DSA candidates before they can blink.

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u/DaisyHotCakes 3h ago

Yeah the current environment is going to push a lot of people further left. We need a good pendulum swing to fix this clusterfuck.

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u/BigBibs 3h ago

There are a small group of people making everyone else's lives harder and they're doing everything they can to turn us on each other.

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u/XXSeaBeeXX 2h ago

Some democrats need to garner moderate/centrist votes. I’ll forgive meaningless political theater like this.

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u/ohreddit1 3h ago

GOP in DEM clothing. 

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u/fizzybgood 3h ago

Primary them all

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u/DrankTooMuchMead 3h ago

They are probably paid off.

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u/JrSoftDev 1h ago

Yes, keep promoting Jared Moskowitz to be the top Democrat on Middle East subcommittee. Give him more power. That will work really well. /s

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u/BiggieBigs34 1h ago edited 1h ago

Fuuuuuuuck corporate democrats.

But hey y’all, remember to pay attention to your voter status and make sure you actually vote in at least the elections that decide your governor, your state senators, your house representative, and of course the President.

Mid term election- Tuesday, November 3, 2026

Presidential election- Tuesday, November 7, 2028

Please use your right to vote, whether it may not seem that way, your vote is important.

You have the right to vote as an American citizen and the important thing to remember is that not everyone in the past had a right to vote like we do now, we could easily backslide into a time where voting becomes restricted again if the wrong people keep ending up in office.

Get out and vote, every vote matters.

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u/6poundpuppy 3h ago

Nailed it!!

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u/Ulrich_Von_Urikon 3h ago

They showed where their priorities are.

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u/memphisjones stop playin 3h ago

Fuck them

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u/Hairy-Dumpling 🐫 hairy dumpling 🐫 3h ago

Feels like you should replace Barney with some kind of porn star on their knees waiting with mouth open for a gift

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u/fnordal 3h ago

Is this really a surprise? from an outside point of view, it isn't.

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u/makedoandmender 3h ago

tired of the old guard. it's time for socialism to take hold. clearly the old way isn't working. let's just tear it down and build it up.

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u/mgill006 3h ago

A simple message, “if you don’t support racism or fascism, don’t vote Republican, and if you’re a republican vote by Mail!

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u/Temporary-Employ-611 3h ago

MAGAts in dem clothing

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u/dangerrnoodle 3h ago

Yeah that’ll fix the affordability crisis.

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u/McMienshaoFace 3h ago

Neoliberals are diet Republicans

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u/juanjung 2h ago

They should know it's 2026 no 1968.

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u/tgirlsforthetgirlgod 2h ago

Because condemning capitalism is antisemitic 

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u/towerfella 🏡 Decent Housing For All 2h ago

Bernie. Sanders.

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u/One-Arachnid-2119 2h ago

That's good. It makes it much easier to see who needs to be voted out.

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u/m3g4m4nnn 2h ago

But yeah, November midterms will fix everything.

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u/Sensitive-Option-701 2h ago

Damn. I guess I cross Moskowitz off my list of the good ones.

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u/ShibaLover227 2h ago

Super fun and weird to be reliving the fall of the Weimar Republic

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u/ObjectiveSense2307 2h ago

The only group that hates liberals/leftists/progressives even MORE than republicans/right-wingers are democrats. There is not an OUNCE of irony in my statement. 100% literal.

Think about it: to the redhats, anyone left of far-right is "boogeyman" status, something far-fetched and in their imaginations. Liberals dont pose an actual threat to rank-n-file republicans. To dems, meanwhile, liberals are an ACTUAL and legit threat to their center-right status quo. They fear liberals FAR more than republicans do.

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u/J1P2G3 2h ago

IT'S ALL THE SAME TEAM

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u/Iheartnakedfemboys 2h ago

Been saying this shit for a while, a bunch of so called Democrats are just paid opposition.

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u/Grand_Taste_8737 2h ago

Dems have a fight on their hands, against themselves.

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u/Mr_Kucer 2h ago

This is just not true lol

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u/politicsaregross 2h ago

Gotta make the donors happy.

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u/repo_man ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 2h ago

Suozzi is a fucking scumbag. He's basically a republican, and would actually be one if only rich white people from long island would reliably vote republican.

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u/JoeBuskin 2h ago

Actually my "anarcho-capitalist" coworker with 0 empathy says we're not living under capitalism and Stalin was a socialist god I wish this was a joke

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u/YogurtClosetThinnest 1h ago

"the bourgeoisie vote to condemn socialism"

well I personally am shocked

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u/Famous_Contest_6780 1h ago

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

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u/Famous_Contest_6780 1h ago

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

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u/LSOreli 1h ago

This is the correct path. MAGA is destroying themselves, the DSA is the only way we lose to Republicans.

You guys really out here supporting people who want Ukraine to surrender

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u/WestcoastAlex 1h ago

could it ever be more obvious??

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u/Scoopie 1h ago

Democrats are just basically Republican-lite

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u/KrytenKoro 1h ago

So we're gonna lose the midterms huh.

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u/daekle 1h ago

American Traitors.

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u/brontosaurusguy 1h ago

Democrats are long overdue for their "tea party" 

The Republicans have been benefitting from rightfully overthrowing their leadership 12 years ago.  Liberals must do the same.  Out with the old

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u/Zealousideal_Ad2149 1h ago

What?$?!? They impeached him twice! Arrested him, sued him, took him to court on multiple occasions and have tried 3 different times to assassinate Trump. The left is definitely more like T-Rex to Trump than Barney.

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u/missgrinchfeet 1h ago

I have been a dem forever & now I’m done

They don’t get it ? Or are they all payed off
They don’t get it & im just over it. America has sold out completely

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u/CarbonEmitter 1h ago

Claude, what do all four of them have in common?

All four are consistently among the strongest pro-Israel voices in the House Democratic caucus, though with some differences in emphasis.

Shared ground:

  • All voted for/support continued military aid to Israel, including the Israel/Ukraine/Taiwan supplemental packages. Scholten voted for a legislative package delivering assistance to Ukraine, Taiwan, and Israel alongside humanitarian aid for Gaza.
  • All condemn Hamas explicitly and center hostage release as a top priority. Gottheimer, Moskowitz, Schneider, and Manning jointly said Hamas "must release all of the hostages" and called for Hamas's defeat before working toward "a lasting peace and a two-state solution."
  • All frame themselves as defenders of the U.S.-Israel relationship against their party's left flank. Gottheimer and Moskowitz urged the Jewish and pro-Israel community to go "on the offensive" against anti-Israel attacks, saying they were fed up with being attacked for their pro-Israel stances.
  • Nominal support for a two-state solution as the eventual goal, paired with strong current-moment support for Israel's military response.
  • Willingness to praise Trump administration Israel/Gaza moves that other Democrats stayed quiet on. Suozzi openly praised Trump for finalizing the deal that freed hostages in Gaza and was among the minority of Democrats who credited Trump for the ceasefire.

Where they differ in degree:

  • Gottheimer and Moskowitz are the most vocal and paired pair on this — they co-author most of the joint statements, letters, and even traveled together to Israel-related events. They led a 113-member bipartisan letter (63 Democrats, 50 Republicans) asking Biden to bolster Israel's security, hold Iran accountable, and increase Iron Dome funding.
  • Suozzi has leaned into this as a signature political identity in New York, most visibly by standing apart from Democratic colleagues, openly opposing NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani, and criticizing Mamdani specifically for not condemning the phrase "globalize the intifada."
  • Scholten is the most likely of the four to pair pro-Israel statements with pointed language about Palestinian civilian suffering — she has called the humanitarian situation in Gaza "a full-blown crisis" with children starving, while still saying Hamas "started this war and can end it today." This balancing act has drawn criticism from both pro-Palestinian activists and some pro-Israel donors' critics, illustrated by progressive commentary noting she referenced only Israeli hostages in an October 7 anniversary post and by criticism describing her as heavily backed by pro-Israel PAC money (the latter source is an openly partisan critic site, worth reading skeptically).

Net picture: this is one of the clearest ideological threads tying the four together — they're part of a small, cross-regional bloc of House Democrats (with Brad Schneider, Kathy Manning, and a few others) who've made robust, publicly vocal support for Israel a defining part of their political brand, even when it puts them at odds with the party's progressive wing.

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u/Kevin4938 1h ago

McCarthyism all over again.

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u/Obvious-Cynic6204 1h ago

This is brilliant news though. It is just more free advertising for the DSA and socialist-minded candidates in general.

When The Last Temptation of Christ came out it wasn't doing so well in the box office and then the Catholic Church did the one thing that would ensure everyone would go see it: they tried to have banned and organized picket lines outside theaters. America saw that and immediately needed to see what this movie was about. Was it very good? Fuck no, but everyone saw it. I see this as a good thing. The more they rail against the DSA the more people will want to know why.

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u/Gamersomething 56m ago

It's funny because this criticism is mirrored for how Democrats view DSA.

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u/Cesspoolofhumanity69 56m ago

Absolute morons.

But entirely predictable. Socialism will never succeed without a rebrand. Fact.

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u/ThoriatedFlash 52m ago

Have they tried condemning fascists?

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u/Flammy 51m ago

Probably because DSA's national goals include "abolishing all prisons" and "abolishing all police" which are pretty easy targets in a general election.

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u/Important-Ad4500 49m ago

Tom Suozzi is what pieces of shit think of as pieces of shit

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u/Equinoqs 46m ago

Makes me glad I left the Democratic party years ago.

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u/soyel_cerdo 45m ago

Democrats aren’t leftist, they are center right while the GOP is extreme right.

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u/clib 44m ago

Wait.People forgot about these fuckers?  the day that the coast guard allowed swastikas and nooses 86 House democrats joined Republicans to pass a resolution denouncing “the horrors of socialism.”. That was their priority that day, fighting socialism, not fighting fascism.

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u/largececelia 39m ago

It's officially called the Bend Over and Love It Act.

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u/strenuousobjector 37m ago

That's four democrats who: 1. Have absolutely no idea what socialism is; 2. Are perfectly comfortable lying about socialism for stupid partisan points; or 3. Both.

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u/RegOrangePaperPlane 37m ago

I guess the Republicans really are going to get to do whatever they want.

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u/sunshades3 🏛️ Overturn Citizens United 37m ago

Almost as if democrats are a right wing conservative party.

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u/grislebeard 35m ago

It's beginning to feel a bit too Weimar around here

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u/Knomp2112 34m ago

Did they condemn Israel razing Gaza?

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u/Kona_Big_Wave 31m ago

There seems to be a lot of politicians who do not want to help the average American.

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u/el__duffo__o__muerte 31m ago

No one talking about how Democrats threw Kamala under the bus but only bring her up in a positive way when they say "She was right" but constantly trash her?

I hate this fuckin' party. I wish we had good people with good intentions running this country.

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u/BildingInspecter 26m ago

Four zionist genocide loving assholes. Time to vote them out.

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u/SharkoftheStreets 24m ago

I hate the expectancy for Democrats to clean up every Republican mess. Of course Democrats don't agree on everything, they're trying to figure out the best way for America to win through compromise and different viewpoints. Meanwhile, Republicans unify under the banner of "whoever speaks the loudest is king" and then yell at Democrats when life gets shittier.

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u/baddogbadcatbadfawn 23m ago

The only way to get ahead in this dystopian system is for constituencies to start district super PACs to bribe their own representatives in Congress to represent them.

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u/Bubbly-Bar-7449 22m ago

Thank them for identifying themselves. Vote them out. Find those districts and start phoning.

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u/Praise_Hades 20m ago

Someone needs to start driving around with the french answer on a trailer near where they frequent

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u/Spirited-Tomorrow-84 19m ago

Educated people know that rats are everywhere when it's about money

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u/PraetorOjoalvirus 17m ago

Some Americans actually thought that there is a functional left wing in their country. How cute! Those crazy folks.

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u/TheBrianJ 10m ago

See this is why I can't get excited for the midterms. Even if Democrats sweep the house and senate, they'll then say "We have decided that now is not the time for division, we are excited to work with Trump moving forward."

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u/LightningRaven 7m ago

That's because the current Democrat leaders are the controlled opposition. This is no exception. This is what the current democrat party exists to do.

They're meant to give the least amount to the working class to prevent revolt. That's why they always side with Republicans when it matters the most. That's why they never do anything when they have the power (see Biden and Kamala's government).

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u/VegasGamer75 5m ago

Scratch a Liberal, as the old quote goes. Anyone thinking these people aren't center-right Liberals is sorely confused about the American political spectrum.

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u/Flanker4 0m ago

This is outrageous! I'm definitely going to write a strongly worded letter, probably. Maybe two even!