r/adelaidefc 18h ago

Adelaide CEO issues statement amid explosive Matthew Nicks report

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/adelaide-ceo-tim-silvers-issues-statement-after-bombshell-report-on-possible-matthew-nicks-sacking-c-22808050.amp

Our CEO did not shut it down. Very coy answer indeed.

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u/QuadrilateralSilly 18h ago

I don’t often agree with Nick Riewoldt, but it is a disgrace that someone in the board leaked this.

People act like he’s been an atrocious coach but he’s literally been a re-build coach.

Look at Alastair Clarkson, a 4 time premiership coach how he’s travelling at North.

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u/drjrcnet 2 Ben Keays 2h ago

Well, unfortunately....

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u/Jimmy__Whisper 18h ago

We don't know it was a board member, could have been any number of people overhearing shit.

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u/OldDiamond6697 16 Max Michalanney 17h ago

My bets would be on a Jarman or Bickley. Loose mouths that don't have a clue what's going on at the club.

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u/mRPerfect12 16h ago

Silvers was asked directly if Nicks jobbed hinged on Saturday - his response was essentially ‘listen Matthew is a great bloke who has helped with the culture’. Clearly something is afoot.

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u/OldDiamond6697 16 Max Michalanney 15h ago

Yeah, you left out the part where he says "rumours and scuttlebutt".He doesn’t need to give an answer to some punce from Channel 7 doorstepping him over a dickhead Tom Morris report.We got finals to worry about.

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u/Successful-Wasabi131 16h ago

I picked that up as well,

" Has been a Great Coach" and lots of stumbling around words.

not is a Great coach and we look forward to the Future or similar.

The board needs to go, List Management as well.

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u/Odd-Ingenuity5159 13 Taylor Walker 18h ago

eh a lot of damage was caused years ago because someone overheard a conversation that didn't involve them, yet had to dob.

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u/QuadrilateralSilly 18h ago

Not sure what this comment means but crazy that a club could just say so black and white “win, stays, loses goes”.

It’s such a reactive decision making process and I think Nicks has done an incredible job in rebuilding Adelaide. They’re not far off being consistent top four.

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u/Competitive_Rise_268 24 Josh Worrell 17h ago

What if we're like Collingwood and lose because of a wayward kick after the siren. Having Nicks's job potentially resting on a kick is stupid

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u/CarelessComplaint173 Darren Jarman (Legend) 17h ago

We should realistically be top 4 and that scenario simply shouldn’t even be on the cards. If we are so precariously placed that a wayward kick can end our season then we are miles off winning a flag and Nicks should be shown the door for having us jn that position to start with.

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u/Brokenmonalisa Scott Thompson (Legend) 15h ago

This is a very bad take.

We've barely played with our best 23 all year and when we have we've liked very good.

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u/CarelessComplaint173 Darren Jarman (Legend) 4h ago

You can make the same case for every team. It also highlights that we haven’t adequately developed our depth players to the degree other teams have.

Also, there’s no way we should have lost to below average teams like Port and Collingwood. Win those games and we’d be top 4.

We need to stop making excuses and stop accepting mediocrity.

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u/CarelessComplaint173 Darren Jarman (Legend) 4h ago

You can make the same case for every team. It also highlights that we haven’t adequately developed our depth players to the degree other teams have.

Also, there’s no way we should have lost to below average teams like Port and Collingwood. Win those games and we’d be top 4.

We need to stop making excuses and stop accepting mediocrity.

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u/atreyu84 2h ago

This attitude is stupid. You cannot make the same case for everything team, you can for some of them and you should where appropriate.

Acknowledging how things actually are is not accepting mediocrity.

We shouldn't have lost to Collingwood. Pretending Port is ever an easy win game no matter the form line just proves you know nothing about football in South Australia.

We lost 4 games by less than 2 goals. Whether you like it or not, that sort of stat matters when assessing coaching performance.

Along with finishing a game out of the top 4, with the injuries we have had through the season, it's been a decent season, no matter what happens Saturday.

Just like losing Saturday doesn't make it a shit season, winning doesn't suddenly make it a good season. Single game results just don't do that, and shouldn't be major factors in long term decision making.

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u/CarelessComplaint173 Darren Jarman (Legend) 57m ago

“Acknowledging how things really are….” Pretty much sums up why we haven’t won a flag in almost 30 years.

Port should be treated like any other team and they are shit. This whole hyping up of the showdown must get into players heads and is unnecessary. Port are a basket case and there is no excuse for losing to them.

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u/atreyu84 33m ago

Just proving you know nothing.

It's got nothing to do with how we treat them. It's how they treat us.

And vice versa when we're shit.

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u/Brokenmonalisa Scott Thompson (Legend) 2h ago

We need to stop making excuses and stop accepting mediocrity.

We dont live in an era where we can just cheat the cap and win games anymore.

We have done an excellent job after 2018/2019 where we should genuinely have sat in the bottom 5 until 2030. Instead we've been a goal umpires error from finals in 23, minor premiers into a homophobic slur by our best player in 25, and this year we play a home final against a team we should beat.

Who are you hiring when you sack Nicks? The best 4 assistants are gone after the North news today. So its Buckley or Simpson, in 35 years of AFL footy a coach in his 2nd job has won a premiership twice. Matthews and Malthouse. I am not willing to enter into a discussion about whether there is an available coach of their quality on the market because their isnt.

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u/CarelessComplaint173 Darren Jarman (Legend) 55m ago

So we keep someone who isn’t up to it because we’re scared of the unknown. Who are we hiring? This is why we have a board and a CEO, they should be out finding the best coach possible.

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u/Brokenmonalisa Scott Thompson (Legend) 39m ago

And I'm telling you that we'd be 4th in line and the best 2 assistants are already signed.

We miss out on Graham, we're hiring a bloke already in the box in Godden. Would be a completely diabolical decision.

It's a bizzaire take, because the CEO and the board already believe they have the best coach but you won't accept that.

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u/nobleknob 16h ago

They haven't won a final in his time.

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u/OldDiamond6697 16 Max Michalanney 15h ago

You could argue there were circumstances out of his control that derailed our finals campaign last year, though, couldn’t you?

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u/ThatYodaGuy 7h ago

Like teaching your players not to be homophobes?

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u/Balla1928Aus 13 Taylor Walker 17h ago

No fucking way anyone on the board said this to Tom Morris. It was only a month ago that Caro told us all that Nathan Buckley was the new coach of Tasmania. They’re all full of shit.

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u/mRPerfect12 16h ago

So you think Silvers comments above were a ringing endorsement of Nicks? I don’t.

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u/Balla1928Aus 13 Taylor Walker 7h ago

They’re in line with his contract situation. He’s said as much as he can with a coach having one year on his contract.

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u/mRPerfect12 21m ago

Means nothing, his body language and response said it all.

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u/OldDiamond6697 16 Max Michalanney 17h ago

Little Tom Morris right now getting the exact reaction he wanted. He's a fucking grub.

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u/CarelessComplaint173 Darren Jarman (Legend) 17h ago

This rally highlights the fact that AFL “journalists” can make up any old crap and get away with it.

It’s probably a realistic guess, but Morris should be framing it as an opinion rather than as if he has a source

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u/mRPerfect12 18h ago

I think internally a decision has been made. I’d go so far as to say unless he makes a prelim this year he’s out.

No issues with it, club needs to be pushing for a flag with this rebuild.

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u/CarelessComplaint173 Darren Jarman (Legend) 17h ago

Totally agree, I think he’s done all he can and it’s time to move on. Hes done a good job getting us to where we are, but I honestly don’t think we’re going any further with him.

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u/P-23 18h ago

Agree I think his days are numbered internally… top four and winning a final was pass mark this year, missing top four now I think he has to make a prelim at minimum to keep his job and even then it may not be enough

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u/Jimmy__Whisper 18h ago

Disgaree. Most experts saw this list as a 6-7th best this year. 1st last year was an easy draw and an overachieve. That being said, due to the nature of the straight sets finals exit last year a pass mark fo this year was always simply winning a final. Hence, if we lost Sat, you can see the argument and Nicks can't be seen as unfairly booted if he does walk.

Personally I think Nicks is some way down on our list of issues keeping us from competing. If people patience has grown thin with Nicks they should be baying for Van Berlo's head as midfield coach. That's where we lost the finals and we have been a massively worse side for losing James Rahilly in my opinion. I really think the right mix of coaches under Nicks (who is central to the culture rebuild) is the answer.

I find the idea that making a prelim with this list "may not be enough" laughable.

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u/P-23 17h ago

Founds Nicksy burner

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u/Jimmy__Whisper 17h ago

What because it's a reasonable balanced assessment instead of you clown autistically screeching for his head every time we lose?

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u/mRPerfect12 16h ago

The list is full of high class talent, we have more top 10 draft picks than Hawthorn as an example. He is not getting the best out of the sqiad

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u/Jimmy__Whisper 15h ago

Complete nonsense. You can say utter vaguery like "full of high class talent" all you fucking like. At the start of the season the VAST majority of experts had us as the 6-7th best list. A few outlies had us as high as 4 and as low as 9.

Chayce Jones is a top 10 draft pick, does that make him good? There's top 10 draft picks all over the league who are barely AFL players. Find a better measurement big dog.

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u/Brokenmonalisa Scott Thompson (Legend) 15h ago

Picks mean fuck all.

Talent is all that matters. Brisbane, Sydney, Freo all have far better lists than ours so to suggest we were the next best when hawthorn and geelong exist is brain dead.

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u/Prestigious_Fan_1061 17h ago

Typical Media from the Cheap seats … can’t get a story … manufacture one! Nothing to worry about with Tim Silvers at the helm! Not throwing the Baby out with the Bathwater just to satisfy Grubby Journalists with a Scoop!!!

Roll back under your Rock Tom Morris!

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u/Special-Bar6162 17h ago

I’ve been thinking for a few weeks now that Adelaide could take out the big one this year.

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u/Tall-Breakfast-6100 17h ago

Feels like whatever they say now is going to be written off as them covering themselves which is so annoying.

Also very annoying that all articles on this topic have talked about 7 years with no finals but fail to note that the first 3-4 years were pure rebuild. Compare us to teams like west coast and kangaroos who have been rebuilding for similar time frames and we are light years ahead with arguably less high end talent from the draft then both of them.

I think he has shown more than enough to at least see out his contract. If they decide to move on from him, then so be it. But just because the dees and blues have seen immediate improvement with a new coach doesn’t mean we will as well. It is a pure gamble and more often than not it takes a few years to get fully set with a new coach.

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u/mRPerfect12 16h ago

Why do we need to waste another 12 months on him? It’s the Adelaide Football Club not the Matthew Nicks Football Club, he will get paid out. You can’t keep wasting time on someone who isn’t good enough.

We’ve been waiting nearly 30 years for another flag, time to making a few tough calls.

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u/atreyu84 2h ago

You'd have a point t if Nick's had been coaching since 1999, but given he hasn't, you don't.

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u/DarkyDan 48 Mark Keane 6h ago

Just Vic BS trying to derail finals prep for the Crows. Another symptom of Wildfart round.

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u/Numerous-Charge8900 15h ago

Is this news?

Surely anyone that has followed the club has known Nicks needs a finals win to keep his job this year. I’d say Nicks and the players are well aware. It’s why Nicks only got a 1 year extension despite finishing top last year. Writing has been on the wall ever since the straight set exit.

So the journos made an educated guess, started ringing the club for their take, and got hit with no comment.

And now the headline is ‘BOARD LEAKS TO MEDIA’.

The fuck?

Potting the club when this is how every news story hits the media and still the journos get 90% of it wrong.

Run with the story re Nicks is sacked if we lose. That’s fine. But the media grandstanding saying ‘I’ve been told… how could they tell us?!’ Is pretty nauseating.

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u/Educational_Care7813 14h ago

Real or not Guy is under big time pressure now and if crows lose I don't think he can survive the media frenzy 

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u/Rolling1saregood 6h ago

It's a shame really because the rebuild process has resulted in a really solid team that can achieve when all systems are firing. Unfortunately, he just can't get us over the line and it's silly to put up with "Will he get another year" chat. Either he gets us through one or possibly even two finals or he goes. There really isn't much wriggle room left.

This is a guy who has had more time, more money and more excuses than any coach in our history. The time for results is now regardless of how bad it might feel to make that clear.

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u/Jimmy__Whisper 18h ago edited 18h ago

What if we cut Tom Morris hands off? He's not really using them for good. (///s for god's sake mods).

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u/Lintopher 18h ago

Yeah… one day we will go a season without making an ass out ourselves in September

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u/Bright_Bell_1301 17h ago

Ffs... what kind of comment is this?

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u/johnnynutman 18 Eddie Betts:Betts: 16h ago

Exactly. This was an august thing technically