r/ask • u/madeinnothingness999 • 16h ago
Why does everything in existence from atom to stars to galaxies are so perfect and in order while being random at same time?
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u/Pugilist12 15h ago edited 15h ago
I think you’re assuming ‘order’ where there may only be consistent physical laws. From our limited perspective, the universe looks structured because matter behaves according to consistent rules. But that doesn’t mean the universe itself is ‘in perfect order’ in any meaningful objective or purposeful sense. Humans love detecting patterns and imposing concepts like order and symmetry on what we observe. We also only ever experience a tiny portion of an unimaginably large and complex system.
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u/engineerdrummer 8h ago
And we have no idea what is out there. What is in a black hole? There's stuff out there our human brains can't begin to comprehend. There could be sentient things that don't follow our definition of "life." We literally have no clue what it's like outside our tiny little speck floating a slightly bigger speck. It's incredible to think about and also terrifying if you try on DMT.
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u/Kingblack425 15h ago
Because one in chaos there can still be order. You take 1k ping pong balls numbered 1 to 1000, and draw one at a time enough times you will eventually draw all 1k out in numerical order. That’s the possibility of “order” as we recognize it in chaos.
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u/TheGuyThatThisIs 15h ago
Eventually... but not within the life of this universe. Can't even do this with a pack of cards within that time.
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u/DunsparceAndDiglett 15h ago
I feel like the universe is just big physics calculator in the process of something.
I'm an idiot, so i would imagine the universal calculator is trying to produce a universal Black Hole. What you see as miracles, randomness, life, "perfection", this dumb interaction, etc are all incredibly temporary byproducts of this 'black hole" formation or whatever the end goal is. It just happens that a molecule of water decided to call Earth its home for billions of years.
Alternatively if time were to stop, there would be no calculator processing, no randomness, and likely just nothing but frozen atoms.
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u/PullMull 15h ago
What do you mean? "Perfect and in order" ? Every sense of order and perfection, or chaos is derived solely from the human mind
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u/gerty88 14h ago
It sounds like you’re talking about the cosmological principle - isotropy and homogeneity. As well as quantum mechanics and perhaps particle decay and virtual/particle pairs and the uncertainty principle, related to black hole evaporation for energy time not the momentum component.
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u/DooficusIdjit 14h ago
They’re not in order. They’re all constantly trying to be, and that’s kinda what causes everything to be what it is.
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u/HeadPatMan 14h ago
Because you, as a fellow human, see patterns. We all do. It’s evolutionarily advantageous to see patterns when they exist, so we’re so good at seeking them that we see them even when they aren’t there.
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u/joshisfantastic 13h ago
Here is a thought exercise that helped me.
Roll a 6 sided die and the result is random. The result is random.
Roll 2 and the results are individually random. But the sums begin to make a pattern. 7 will show up more often just because of how math works.
Over time and repetition you will find that seven shows up 16% of the time while the other combinations show up less often. Is becomes a clean bell curve.
Order from randomness when put into a system.
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u/steveinstow 10h ago
When you say 'perfect order' do you mean because stars and planets are round, and orbit each other? That's because of gravity.
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u/psichodrome 9h ago
On a specific small scale,in a molecule made up of a central atom and a couple of outer atoms, the outer atoms arrange themselves perfectly equidistant from each other, due to repelling each other.
Similar "order" exists with orbiting atoms/moons/planets/solar systems.
One of the worst answers i produced ever. I hope someone eloquent can elaborate.
TLDR: nature does pretty things, for reasons, and that make them pretty because we subconsciously know it's normal or natural, and not unusual or scary.
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u/malik753 8h ago
Basically, there are – you could think of them as "islands of stability". Things that aren't "in order" as you put it tend not to last very long. The longest lasting things are those that are extremely stable. Planets that go around stars in an unstable orbit tend to either get ejected from their solar system or crash into another body and turn into a lot of pieces that in turn are either ejected or crash into another body and so on. Galaxies are basically just clouds of stars. Gravity tends to force things into a rough ball shape and angular momentum tends to turn that ball into more of a disk. Stars are no exception. The sun spins faster at its equator than it does at its poles, and it is also in a balance - between the gravity of it's mass trying to collapse it into a dense point and the sheer force of nuclear fusion pushing that mass back outward. The stars that we look out and see are essentially selected by a survivor bias. We don't see the stars that have so little mass that they can't ignite, and we also don't see the stars that had so much mass that they burned out in a mere few million years or simply collapsed practically straight into being black holes.
TL;DR sure the universe is generally random, but parts of it will fall into areas of stability
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u/Critical-Champion365 8h ago
There's nothing in order. Its survivorship bias. Things that don't fall into place drifts away. Its very much is throwing shit on the wall and see what's sticking. You don't see all the shit that didn't stick and call it art. Is this bait for creationism btw?
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