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u/DueImagination641 22h ago edited 22h ago

Jesus died for all sins. I don't remember him saying that homosexuality is or isnt a worse sin*** than taking advantage of your fellow man to be a billionaire, or voting for a candidate who is an alleged rapist so that you can pay less taxes on your ill-gotten money.

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u/Real_Life_Sushiroll 21h ago

I don't remember the part about homosexuality being worse either.

I DO remember the part where God says all sins are equal and that one is not worse than another though.

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u/TheRedLions 21h ago

Two parts:

  • Jesus never calls homosexuality a sin and does call on everyone to love each other. The old testament (leviticus especially) states clearly that it is a sin, however there are explicit passages that state the new testament is a replacement for the old, not an addition. (See Hebrews 8:13)
  • Being rich is not a sin in the old or new testament. Greed, exploitation, and exaultation of wealth are sins and it's clearly stated that wealth is an impediment to being close to god. That said, there's no reason to think someone like Dolly Parton didn't go to heaven just because she had wealth.

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u/In_Pursuit_of_Fire 18h ago
  • Unfortunately there are also passages in the new testament about keeping the old laws. The Bible really is an inconsistent mess
  • "it's clearly stated that wealth is an impediment to being close to god." We have a word for that: a sin.

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u/TheRedLions 18h ago

It's different than a sin. A sin is an active step away, wealth is a barrier to getting closer. There are even parts of the Bible that describe wealth as a blessing and the recipients good. The sin is coveting said wealth.

“the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils” Timothy 6:10.

The love of money is the sin, not the money itself. But having a lot of it means that you are more likely to love it/commit other sins.

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u/Very_Not_Into_It 22h ago

Homosexuality isn't worse than supporting a rapist as your leader? How brave of you.

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u/DueImagination641 22h ago

Oh a person who is dedicated to misunderstanding things on purpose is here. I never would have expected someone like that to appear.

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u/Very_Not_Into_It 22h ago

so, you aren't lying and saying that Christ condemns homosexuality? My bad. Thats what it sounded like.

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u/shadow_phantom713 21h ago

Does he care if his relationship was only shut down because of other terrible humans making you lose faith? I really feel like I shouldn't be held responsible for that

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u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e 21h ago

Alright, then I’m sure you’d be comfortable answering a question. Former Christian, present agnostic.

Would you say that the God you worship is both omnipotent and benevolent?

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u/Very_Not_Into_It 21h ago

"blaspheming against the holy spirit" is so vague, it has been a point of contention in the Churches entire history. If being gay is denying God's creation, then surely you could argue that being openly gay is "blaspheming against the Holy Spirit."

I didnt ask you what sins were "unforgivable". I asked you whether or not you view being gay as a sin. Still waiting for an answer.

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u/Very_Not_Into_It 21h ago

You took three messages to say explicitly what you meant. This was deliberately vague, because you wanted to package your message of hate in a lovey-dovey package. Don't bullshit a bullshitter, I've tried "making disciples of all nations" before, too.

If all sins are equally forgivable besides denying Christ as savior, then being gay is exactly as bad as supporting a rapist as your leader. So, my initial analysis of your first message is correct. You are being theologically inconsistent (i notice you edited your first message to account for this). If you believe that being gay is a sin against god, and you believe that denying the Spirit is unforgivable, just cut out the middle man and admit you are on the side of hate.

Or, you can admit that your knowledge of the scripture is flawed, as you are human. And so, you can reject an interpretation when it leads you to hate. Because you know that God is not in such a message.

I'm sure you'll follow up with some "love the sinner, hate the sin" malarkey. Do yourself a favor. Think more critically than that.

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u/DueImagination641 18h ago

I just don't have the energy to be attacked like this I don't have a perfect theology worked out. I care about gay people and I want them to make it to the next place with me I don't give a whinging waffle about all this other stuff you're talking about. Have a good one.

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u/Very_Not_Into_It 7h ago

You weren't attacked, you were called out.

Christianity isnt about getting to the next place. It's about living a good life on Earth. You cant do that if you walk around believing gay people are living some evil life of sin. That isn't love.

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