The burning sun, the crowds and noise, the sticky humidity, the wet sand sticking to every corner of ur body, i could go on and on. Absolute sensory hell.

I usually hide under the umbrella with a book and longer clothes to block the sun. Im curious to see if any INTP on here actually likes the beach, lol.

(Only good thing about it so far is that i found a cat to pet here)

Any INTPs out there who struggle/ have struggled with anger issues throughout their lives?

Honestly, I’m not sure if prolonged stress made anger somewhat a part of me. Even though it’s mostly internal, I can usually control it.

But could this be related to Fe grip?

we can all agree as intps that we are slow, or we always opt to do things the "right way"

so I was thinking, is there condition where this trait is disabled and intp actually finish things asap ?

beyond external reasons like deadlines, what are the most things that will make intp - work to ideation rate not so crazy low?

maybe some relationship ? mental condition ?

why is it that when i’m talking with someone i constantly ask questions i already know the answer to so that they get the chance to explain it and feel good about themselves?? this is an issue i do with everyone but i try to make myself seem stupid so that they get to feel smarter than me?? what’s wrong with me lol

I thought I was an ENTP, but they flamed me on that sub when I called them foolish, so after studying cognitive functions, I’ve come here.

Hi new to attitudinal psychosophy. Genuinely asking about this one, is it possible to be an INTP LFVE?? Because if not, perhaps I may be ISTP instead. Thanks!

Who are your fav male intps or characters u relate to?

When something is proven, the world feels calm, just for a minute. Thinking loops stop and the structure survives pressure-testing. The reward is a moment of silence that I don't think most people need the way we need it. That's what we're chasing.

Now, look at what an adult life is made of. Relationships, careers, hobbies, our health, whether you're a decent person or not. All of it is permanently unsolved. Diffuse, if you will. There is no completion in sight. There's no moment where the decision to get married becomes an airtight case. You don't get a report card on your parenting abilities by some nebulous group that watches you 24/7.

So, I posit that INTPs build the best closure instrument they can find and then spend the rest of their adult lives somewhere that never closes anything.

I think this explains some things.

Start with introspection as an example. You can have beautiful internal documentation, and also have zero behavioral change. Introspection is seductive because it closes. You can run a mental loop on your own mind and find something you feel is true and verified in a half hour. Changing something is a butterfly effect that gives you no silence at the end. Ti takes the closure every time. The function is busy focusing on things it can close.

Most of my best work across twenty-odd years has been invisible by external metrics. The problem that didn't become anything, the design call that prevented a problem nobody ever thought about. Negative-space achievements. Things that didn't happen visibly for anyone but me. A thing that didn't happen also doesn't complete. Which means my internal record of what everyone else is doing wrong is easily seen and detailed while the record of what I'm actually good at can be invisible. I can tell you exactly how a company is going to fail months and months out. I cannot tell you whether I was any good this week at anything. Si is a fantastic archival database and a useless advocate. Total and absolute lossless fidelity, unless it's attached to your name.

Here's the point if you're still reading this absolute thesis of a thought:

A lot of folks here treat inferior Fe as a feelings problem. 'I'm bad at emotions and awkward in groups. I know that I should comfort someone but I'm not sure how how...' That's not the way I think it should be looked at for us. Ti, Ne, Si all source their verification, their...closure internally. You can check them yourself, you can close them yourself. Fe is the only function in the stack whose completion signal lives in another mind. You speak and then you wait. The answer comes from a source you have no visibility into or ability to audit or litigate.

Everyone lives with that, to be fair. For a Ti-dom, especially those who spent childhood being told they were wrong about things they were right about is external verification is enforced as untrustworthy. Ti became a hero because outside sources couldn't be trusted. Fe on the other hand, only runs on outside judgement.

The hero that saved you is holding the keys to the last locked room, and that's why Fe integration is so difficult for some of us. The first step is learning to be comfortable without closure. Do the thing. Do it often enough until it becomes something you can trust.

Fates worse than death

I know it’s stereotyped that we are one of if not the most un athletic types so I was wondering what type of sports INTPs like in general.

Personally, I dislike team games like basketball and soccer but I quite enjoy individual performance like skateboarding and snowboarding.

I'm kinda doubting my INTP-ness because I find that I'm pretty invested in participating in high speed and risky sports like mountain biking and skateboarding. Anyone else have similar interests?

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I just found out that the Arctic is technically considered a desert because deserts are defined by how little precipitation they receive.

For some reason, my mental definition of desert was basically hot place with sand. Finding out that the Arctic can qualify completely messed with that definition.

Now I’m wondering how many other things I’ve categorized based on vibes rather than their actual definitions.

Have you guys had any random realizations like this that completely changed how you understood something?

Recently got diagnosed with BPD. Anyone else here with diagnosed bpd just available to talk to?

I need Book recommendations to fix my attention span.

About me : In fiction, I like worlds that are deeply built and have complex characters with histories and traumas and where I can research about them and about the plotline.

In non-fiction, I like reading about anything that tells me how people lived back in the days. How all other disciplines impact the commoners. I also like to read about artists and their journals trying to understand their perspective.

I also like the impressionist era of both paintings and writing. ( I love virginia woolf)

I am over the self help genre. Was obsessed with it once.

Vocês se interessam por física? Se sim, o que acham do Felipe Guisoli do universo narrado? Eu particularmente acho a didática dele incrível, e funciona pro meu tipo de pensamento. ODEIO decorar fórmulas e nem consigo pra ser sincera. Mas ele treina nossa intuição da lógica. O que acham dele? Conhecem alguém com didática parecida na área da química?

So, i have a friend that when he's trough something very bad he talks about it like he's literally losing his mind, very dramatic, and i find that funny, even though he really is mad or sad, but i just cant stop, i feel bad about it and want to stop, BUT I JUST CANT, IM A HORRIBLE PERSON

To anyone who knows pokemon and especially rare candy from the game... What do you think it tastes like? 🤔 And which pokeberries has been used... Or irl berries...

So I have this thing that has persisted and hurt me my whole life, from childhood to now, and I absolutely dread telling people about my current situation (even if it is a tough one) rather than telling them what is actually happening. Always when I tell people this the response I get is mostly "Be a man" or stuff like that. I know that I am fully in the wrong, but I wanted to know if there were some people like that.

i don't even know what brought me here. hahaha

so, what are your favourite flairs? what ones would you add?

and while we're at it, what subs have you enjoyed recently?

(+ add more silly isfp flairs in here, not all of us are great artists! XD)

How good are you at giving compliments? I am extremely bad at them. Even at birthday wishes ,good lucks I stumble and say horrible stuff. For example, my relative sister just completed a medical graduate exam and was concerned about hr accuracy of answers,and myself, instead of comforting her or even congratulating i straight up thought of something like "its a highly competitive exam, if you had made blunders nothing can be done about it now. Have fun now!" Except I said only the have fun part. Issue is I get philosophical and pun intended at times because I hate bland complements so I don't like giving the same vibe to others. I use examples too but it gets weird and tangential

I just feel I might be too in my own head and wondered how other people see their own day-to-day life.

Do you struggle with hyper independence?

I find it's a constant sore point for myself. To break down this statement, I wonder if it's something that developed since childhood that I haven't resolved in my mid 20s. Perhaps by overanalyzing other people's reaction whenever I asked for help, it gave me feedback that people don't like to help as much as they say they do. I try to be different from this, but I think I've noticed this behavior consistently enough that this is my current hypothesis.

I also believe some of it stems from being overly aware of my rather awkward or reticent personality back then. And the fact I was noted for being too sensitive as a child/young adolescent. All those factors played a role in creating a desire to wipe my emotions from bubbling to the surface and never needing people, at least as far as possible.

In adulthood, it also looks like diluting the extent of my problems so people like my folks aren't too terribly worried as they get older.

I feel there's a lot more to this, but I wanted to know about your own experiences with hyper independence, how it shapes your current lifestyle, what the benefits have been, and how it has limited you too. I think it's generally been a net negative for me the last few years, and I wouldn't mind some tips on reinventing this aspect of myself.

This train of thought came about after reading a post on Twitter. The man comments that hyper independent people kill their opportunities of acquiring help by framing the help they need in a way that makes it near impossible or very inconvenient for the other party to chip in, then later allow themselves to think these people were never serious about helping out anyways, and it struck me hard.

Hi everyone, I'm new to the Sakinorva test and I'm trying to type a friend because I can't type him with just my knowledge of the functions. Could you help me understand the results? Thanks a lot.

Cognitive function scores:

Ne (extraverted intuition): 28.2

Ni (introverted intuition): 17.8

Se (extraverted sensing): 32

Si (introverted sensing): 25

Te (extraverted thinking): 38

Ti (introverted thinking): 38

Fe (extraverted feeling): 33

Fi (introverted feeling): 37

Result types:

Grant function type: ESFP

Second best choice: ESTP

Third best option: ISTP

Fourth best option: ESTJ

Axis-based function type: ??T?

Myers function type: ESTJ

Myers letter type: ENTJ

If you one day discover that you’re actually not smart at all (in terms of fluid intelligence, not crystallised intelligence), would you find that difficult to accept?