r/leaf Dec 18 '25

A Breakdown of 40 & 62 kWh Battery Pack Failures

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As some people may have heard of or unfortunately experienced, there have been quite a number of cases of 2nd generation Leaf batteries failing. I was planning and trying to make this into a video format, but as I’m still recovering from a cold my voice isn’t quite up for narrating an essay, so text format it is.

Hopefully this can raise some awareness and provide a central source of info as to what’s going on, why it’s happening, what to do about it, and things to consider. There are two separate issues currently causing outright failures of 2018+ Leaf battery packs, and so will be split up into two sections.

Cold-weather SOC Freefall

  • What’s going on?

Under load in cold temperatures, especially below freezing and below 50% battery, the charge level and range estimate will suddenly begin to plummet and continue to drop rapidly until the load is removed, at which case the charge level starts to bounce back and quickly increase again.

The car may go into turtle mode, or in severe cases even cut off the high voltage battery completely, in which case the car will stall and may not be able to be restarted.

Here is a video example of what this sudden drop of charge level looks like.

This issue affects both the 40 kWh and 62 kWh packs. The 40 kWh packs seem to be much more susceptible, but as the 62 kWh packs use the same cells and chemistry, they are not immune. This also includes 40 packs that were installed as retrofits under warranty in 2016-17 Leafs.

  • Why is this happening?

This is occurring due to one or more weak cells within the battery pack sagging excessively in voltage under load, which is greatly exacerbated when the battery is cold, due to increased internal resistance.

How the battery works is that the shown and usable state of charge is defined by that of the lowest cell. This is to prevent over-discharge of any weaker cells at lower charge levels, as that would cause even further damage to them.

Often this can be witnessed in the LeafSpy cell chart as one or more cells that clearly drop lower than the rest of the pack under load, but not always. There have been a number of cases of SOC freefall with seemingly no weak cells, indicating that there’s other data/calculations within the BMS that the user cannot see.

Getting a weak cell is essentially luck of the draw. There have been packs with very low mileage and seemingly great numbers that still failed (such as in the video above), while there are other packs with lots of miles and abuse that are still working just fine. How the pack is treated/babied does not seem to affect your chances in the roulette.

  • What to do about it?

If you are encountering this issue as an owner, and the car is still under warranty, document everything as much as possible. Record video(s) of the issue happening, noting the charge level and outside temperature the battery is at. Submit this proof to the dealer as a copy, and demand that it be used in their case to Nissan corporate.

Bring the car to the dealership for diagnosis with as cold of upcoming weather as possible. Some dealers may try poorly to replicate the issue, often in the interest of charging the customer the diagnostic fee. You want to make the issue as obvious and easily to replicate as you can.

If you have to drive the car around, ensure you either have LeafSpy Pro, or keep an adjustable or 10mm wrench with you in the car. If the cell voltages ever drop low enough for the car to shut down, it is likely to set a high voltage fault code and won’t be able to restart until the fault is cleared. Clearing the fault via the LeafSpy service menu, or disconnecting and reconnecting the 12V battery, will at least allow you to limp the car to a charger or safe location off the road.

UPDATE: For 2019-2022 Leafs, the "fast charging recall" software update now adds programming to the BMS to look for and flag SOC variations, setting a fault code (P33ED) if it does. This has the potential to "brick" the car in the same way as a high voltage isolation fault (read section below) would. Be cautious of this so that it does not potentially leave you stranded.

  • Things to consider

If you own a 2nd generation Leaf (especially 40 kWh) that is still under warranty, still on the original battery, and live in a climate that gets winter, check for signs of this issue BEFORE warranty ends!

During cold weather, park the car outside overnight with 50% charge or less, then take the car out for a drive and see if there are any strange fluctuations in the state of charge during acceleration.

If you are considering purchasing one and there is no proof of the high voltage battery being replaced, ensure there is at least one year worth of warranty remaining on the car so that you can spend a winter with it and will still be covered in the case of this failure.

LeafSpy data can sometimes be a pre-indicator that you will likely run into this issue if there is a noticeably low Hx value (much lower than SOH), but not always. Low Hx is a strong sign of possible weak cells, but weak cells will not always cause low Hx.

Cell Expansion / High Voltage Isolation

  • What’s going on?

The car will one day show the message “Service EV System – Unable to restart after power off”, and indeed will not restart after it is powered off.

The vast majority of cars affected by this issue are 62 kWh Leaf Plus/e+ models. It is not unheard of on 40 kWh cars, but it is quite rare unless the pack was heavily used and abused.

There is a Nissan TSB on this issue which confirms they are well aware of this issue, and there are revised battery packs and modules that are issued in replacement if the car is still under high voltage battery warranty.

  • Why is this happening?

Thermal expansion of the battery cells causes them to eventually expand to the point of pushing up against each other, and in some cases even leaking electrolyte out of the cells into the battery casing, eventually causing the car to trip a high voltage isolation fault.

This is most commonly happening in specifically the rear stack of cells within the 62 kWh pack, because they are so tightly packed together, that they don’t get much cooling nor much room to expand before they begin pushing up against each other.

High voltage isolation is important, because obviously you do not want any high voltage potential to be contacting the metal battery casing that is bolted to the metal body of the car. If the BMS detects that there is even just a little bit of voltage leaking from one cell to another, or the cells to the battery chassis, an isolation fault is tripped.

  • What to do about it?

If you encounter specifically the “unable to restart after power off” message, and the car is still within high voltage battery warranty, DO NOT REPLACE THE 12V BATTERY.

This specific message is ONLY generated due to a high voltage isolation fault, and although a weak 12V battery can cause many weird issues, it will NEVER generate a high voltage isolation fault. Unless there is an extremely urgent need to continue driving the car, have it towed in the “broken” state to a Nissan dealership.

It is a much more objective issue than weak cells, and basically the only diagnosis they would need to approve a battery replacement is to see the stored isolation fault code. Disconnecting the 12V battery however clears this fault code, making it not possible for them to verify the issue unless it happens to fault again in only one drive cycle.

Replacing the 12V battery gives a false sense of success because it allows the car to start and drive again, but only until the fault eventually comes back. It's just a waste of money and a perfectly good battery to not actually address the underlying issue.

If you urgently need the car to work again, clearing the fault code in LeafSpy Pro or by disconnecting and reconnecting the 12V battery will allow it to start. Just be aware that by doing this, you won’t be able to have the issue verifiable by Nissan until it pops up again. It may only take 1 drive cycle, it may take 100.

  • Things to consider

Unfortunately there isn’t really any way to foretell that this issue will happen soon or to check for it, as you can’t just force an isolation fault to appear like you can with weak cells.

Battery packs in hot climates and/or lots of quick charges are more susceptible to this issue due to it being a result of thermal expansion. Packs torn apart after diagnosis of this issue often exhibit very obvious “spicy pillows” within.

If you are a current owner, especially of a Plus/e+ model, the best you can do is to avoid overheating/rapidgating the battery whenever possible. Doing so once every few months is not a big deal, but frequently doing so will likely lead to long-term damage.

If looking to purchase a Leaf Plus/e+, or a high mileage 40 kWh car in a hot climate, make sure to check Leaf Spy, and it may be wise to avoid any examples that have lots of QCs shown.

There is a great in-depth video by LEAF expert Dala explaining this issue more in detail for those who are interested.


r/leaf 2h ago

Sooo recall got me the famous turtle mode (what now??)

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So after defending and claiming the Nissan leaf was the best car I ever owned today I think I'm changing my mind a bit.

Not necessarily anout the leaf itself but how Nissan is handling the situation.

This just happened to me and I'm far away from home since the only certified Nissan dealership is located over an hour away (Canada,NB).

Anyway drove there this morning to get the recall done.

They kept it almost all day and I was ready to get back home but after 40 minutes ish if driving I got the message and turtle mod.

If I understand what the guy at the dealer told me before I left. If I'm getting this it's basically a buyback.

So changing car wasn't on my 2026 bingo card at all.

I obviously never want to deal with Nissan again + I never want to get a fuel (ICE) car again. But I never really had a car payment in my life I was always saving for the next car during the life.of my car but I clearly don't have enough yet and this leaf was only car.

So if I understand correctly. I need to check with them tomorrow because they are closed and Im stuck for the night.

But I'm basically fucked right???

Any ideas how much and how long the buyback is going to take?

And in the meantime what are my options? Renting a car??

Shopping for another car?

Any one with information or how your dealt with that please share you experience.

I was planning to give that car to my daughter in a few years as a first car while I would have enough saved to get another car.

But obviously I have to review my plans.


r/leaf 9h ago

After the whole dead-bird drama under the hood, I figured it was time to clean the outside too

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Ever since I bought a cordless 56-bar pressure washer from Worx, washing the Leaf has become a lot easier, especially without needing a direct water source.

The pressure isn't extremely high, so I use the 15° (orange) nozzle without worrying too much about the paint. The downside is water consumption. I needed at least 1.5 buckets just for the pre-rinse, and even my two buckets weren't quite enough. They're just those €0.95 Action buckets, so nothing fancy.

I also use grid guards and dedicated microfibre towels. The grid guards came from AliExpress, back when importing cheap stuff wasn't quite as painful as it is now.

I'm not aiming for perfection anymore, though. The car lives outside 24/7, so between animals scratching the paint, random people damaging it and driving off, and just the weather doing its thing, there's only so much you can do.

I'm currently aiming to wash it roughly every three months. In winter I'll probably leave it longer, although being able to quickly rinse off salt and road grime with the cordless pressure washer is pretty useful.

And let's be honest: it's a 2019 Tekna with 148,000 km and around 87% SoH. It's being used.

One thing I've definitely learned, though: never again a car with black piano trim and a black roof. They show absolutely every scratch and imperfection.

The white metallic paint is much more forgiving. The imperfections are still there, you just don't notice them immediately.

So no, it's not a perfect detail. It's just a Leaf that gets driven and occasionally gets a bath.


r/leaf 1h ago

(Potentially) new to Leaf life

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Hey everyone, I’ve been car shopping recently after being mainly on foot or bike for the last few months. I went to a dealer to look at a 2014 Chevy equinox but they also showed me a 2013 Leaf. It’s such a cute car and it’s half the price of the other car I initially was interested in. I don’t have a far commute to work, at most I drive about 30 minutes/12 miles a day really so the sales person said I sound like a good fit for it. Is there anything I should look for/things that might deter me from buying the car? It has the charger with it and it seemed to run well, but I’ve never driven an electric car before so I wouldn’t really be able to spot any issues lol. I’ve been kinda down about having to get a new car because I was a little obsessed with my last one (2006 Scion xB) before I had to get rid of it. Sorry for the long post, but I’m looking forward to any responses!


r/leaf 9h ago

2026 Leaf Shutdown Sound

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I love my 2026 Leaf... but the shutdown sound has me singing the bridge from Maybe for an hour after I leave the car. It would be great if we could adjust that sound. Maybe stick in a few notes from the chorus of The Lonely Goatherd?


r/leaf 10h ago

MyNissan / NissanConnect Drama workaround

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With the NissanConnect app (now MyNissan) still being down in many EU countries (USA seems to be working now?) I've been looking for a workaround for a while now.

I mostly use the Home Assistant integration to sync the battery state to my smart charger and also toggle the climate controls from the HA UI.

Today I found this URL lets you actually request a new password and update your account for whatever new API they have (this link works in NL, can't validate for other countries, try swapping the country code in the URL?)

https://login.mynissan-account.com/authenticationendpoint/login.do?brand=nissan&client_id=nAHvsUYfzwjnLCBYae6a31FiIfga&commonAuthCallerPath=https%3A%2F%2Flogin.mynissan-account.com%2Foauth2%2Fauthorize&forceAuth=false&locale=nl_NL&passiveAuth=false&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fcustomer.mynissan-account.com%2Fos.shtml%2Fpace-ownerservices%2Fidp-callback%2Fnl_nl&response_type=code&scope=openid+name+profile+email+offline_access&state=5688FC1BaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubmlzc2FuLm5sL21uZC9taWpuLWRhc2hib2FyZC5zaHRtbA%3D%3D&tenantDomain=carbon.super&sessionDataKey=3def5775-346b-4894-985c-5c3bf6090cc2&relyingParty=nAHvsUYfzwjnLCBYae6a31FiIfga&type=oidc&sp=NG_PACE_GLOBAL_NISSAN&isSaaSApp=false&authenticators=BasicAuthenticator%3ALOCAL

This won't get you into the official Nissan App, and the MyLeaf-app hasn't been updated.

If you use HA, you CAN however log in after resettting your password through the link above.

The integration: https://github.com/dan-r/HomeAssistant-NissanConnect/releases

Make sure when you install, you select the 0.8-beta prerelease version - this is the one updated for the new auth system. If you already have it, press the button on the top-right and click "redownload".

Logging in with your updated credentials should let you do everything from HA like before!

No fix for those relying on one of the apps, but hope this helps some people using integrations that have been upgraded already.


r/leaf 10h ago

What viable EV replacement do I start looking out for with $1600 budget in Illinois?

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CORRECTION TO THE TITLE!!! - $16,000/$16K NOT 1,600

TL;DR - In the event of a buyback, what can I possibly get to genuinely replace my 2020 SL+ within the budget without ending up with potentially even more expensive (non -warranty) reliability issues.

As some may know from an extended post yesterday I got the Nissan Leaf equivalent of the red ring of death or blue screen in the form of the post recall fault. Which is incredibly sad because I actually really loved driving it and I've had it for less than a year.

I know it may take a while but the tech says that it's likely going to get a buyback. As a 2020 SL+ with 68,000 mi, it seems like I can anticipate getting around $16,000 for it with some haggling.

I really don't have more money to put into a replacement (and really can't add a loan payment to my monthly budget)

The Federal rebates are dead, and Illinois rebate (if not already claimed by previous owner) would take up to 6 months to receive.


r/leaf 4h ago

Anyone use LeafSpy with a 2026?

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I saw one comment on this sub mentioning that the 2026 Leaf was compatible with LeafSpy. I’m not finding any other info about it but I was curious and thought I’d just try it. But I don’t think it’s working.

I’m on iOS. I got the LeafSpy Pro app, and a Vgate car Pro Wi-Fi OBD2 adapter.

I plugged the adapter into the car’s OBD port. I went into my phone’s Wi-Fi settings and connected to the adapter (“V-LINK”). Then I opened the LeafSpy app, went into settings, and hit “register current SSID as an OBDII adapter”.

Then I see that LeafSpy says “connected” in the bottom right, but it also says “no data” and all the graphs are blank. See video.

Am I doing something wrong or is it just not compatible?


r/leaf 1h ago

WANTED: Anyone have their old 62890-3VA2A front badge after upgrading?

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r/leaf 3h ago

Charging Issue After Update

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We have a 2019 Leaf and just recently had the recall done for the Level-3 charging issue. Now on the home charger (Level-2) the charger faults on occasion a couple of hours into charging, and stops. This never happened before the update, and can be remedied by unplugging the charger, then plugging it back it. Is this symptomatic of a bad cell, potentially leading to a buyback? We have an appointment at the dealer in a couple of weeks. I'm certain they'll try to blame our home charger, but it was never an issue before the update.


r/leaf 22h ago

One of these is more impressive in context

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No I don't actually drive exclusively Leafs. Although having the fleet is funny, 2 of my 3 get used by family members. My work truck/cargo van/road tripper is a 2017 Model S, which indeed has 340,000 miles on the original powertrain, I just don't bring it up much here because it's usually not relevant to conversations.

People in real life though of course lose their minds over the big number, an EV lasting that long, and only 22% degradation with almost exactly twice what's on my already high mileage Leaf. But an important point to note is that it's done double the miles, with triple the amount of battery.

In reality, it's frankly much more impressive that the "infamously unreliable", "badly designed", and passively cooled Leaf's battery has only 2% more degradation despite going through 50% more battery cycles.

Yes this the bright pink modified KPop car, and people irl often ask me why I haven't done a battery swap/upgrade on it yet, especially after owning it for 7 years (a very long time by my car-retention standards). Because I haven't needed to?

It still runs great, and continues to be the happy survivor that stuck with me and went against all the old Leaf battery stereotypes. In return, it now gets a much more fun and fulfilling job, making more people smile and winning more car show awards than any other Leaf ever has.


r/leaf 7h ago

Nissan leaf front damage

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As you can see in the picture the charge port appears to be sitting too low after a front collision. I'm guessing the impact was low down (judging by the bumper) and it and bent it down. Any advice as to what parts have likely bent and how much I'll need to replace?

I have already replaced the slam bar and the crash bar and chassis legs


r/leaf 1d ago

Goodbye!

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Well, it's been a long run: peddler picked up my well loved 2012 this morning. the check just about covers the L2 charger I installed for the Ioniq5 that replaced my leaf.

I bought it used in 2015: a month shy of 11 years. Taught both my kids to drive in it. made a perfect teenager drive themselves to school and swim practice car.

It had its faults, but maybe they were just quirks? Lost the heater - that's ok we're in Houston. Oh, there goes another bar. Left with 3 bars and about 20 miles actual range. that's ok, school and pool are closer than that.

Goodbye!


r/leaf 1d ago

Just shaking my head

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What if they just communicated better via email in the first place and tell us that it will be down for 2 weeks? Yeah there were maintenance update warnings in the app but this is a complete pr nightmare bro.


r/leaf 8h ago

Do I get another Leaf?

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My 2019 Leaf+ was bought back due to the battery issue. It got bought back for more than I paid, it was a bit of a headache, but not too bad. I did love the car, thinking of getting a slightly newer one - I'd be able to pay it off completely. There is a risk I'd have to go through the recall and buyback process again - would it be worth it?


r/leaf 9h ago

Lower Fog Light Replacement

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I have a 2019 Leaf and at some point a rock has shattered the lower fog light on my passenger side. Anyone have any tips on sourcing a new one that isn't going to cost me hundreds of dollars for the part as well as hundreds for the dealer to replace it?


r/leaf 6h ago

2024 SC+ Launch Mode - PSA

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Basically got launched backwards out of the drive way and up the alley, brakes worked fine. Dicked around with the cruise thinking it was stuck. Why didn't I just pull over and stop you ask. Brain fart. A couple of miles down the road I remember I just replace the floor mat. I washed her over he weekend, floor mats were left out to dry, and quickly reinstalled at o-dark hundred before heading to work yesterday. Original installation instructions mentioned being careful to get the mat behind the accelerator. Oops.


r/leaf 18h ago

Some advice on my LeafSpy stats? 2017 30kW SOH=66.31%

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So my 2017 Tekna has done 67000 miles are showing SOH=66.31%, it’s range is reduced to 2/3 of its new range, I’m fine with all this but is that SOH normal for its age and mileage (based on my image)?

Looking for some advice or comments on ether to trade on this Leaf or my 10 year old ICE that’s done 100,000 miles. My partner drives 45 miles round trip to work each day and charges by night, it’s perfect for this purpose.. however, we do want a new car.

We are looking to get a new EV, I’m leaning towards keeping the leaf and getting rid of the ICE but the ICE if push came to shove will do long range.


r/leaf 14h ago

2020 SV brake failure

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Hello, I bought a used 2020 Leaf n January with 34,000 miles. It now has 41,000 miles. Last Friday, when my wife went to drive it, she backed out of a parking space, hit the brakes, and the brakes went all the way to the floor and made that grinding noise of abs. Lights all over the dash. Chassis control systems error, t/p error, not available system malfunction, malfunction see owners manual.

I've tried disconnecting the 12v battery, recharging the 12v battery, clearing codes on Leaf Spy, testing battery at AutoZone (battery is good, they said, not surprising as it is five months old AGM). I'm having it towed to dealer today. Any thoughts?

Codes include u1000-09, u110d-87, b26fc, u2112-87, p3195-87, u1000-00, c1800-00, c1000-01, c1895-63. The battery SOH is 90%.


r/leaf 1d ago

2021 Nissan Leaf fire

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r/leaf 1d ago

Maintenance Nissan Leaf app keeps taking longer...

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Who else is getting this message? The app has renewed: it got s different app logo now, but since at least Friday? It says they are doing maintenance, and every time I check if it's done? Then it keeps changing it, now it went from finishing Monday at 21 a clock, to Friday at 21 a clock.


r/leaf 1d ago

Buyback offers - 2026

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I've seen older buyback posts but wondering what you guys are seeing as of mid-to-late 2026. We have a 2022 SV plus with 96k and battery went kaput back in march (it's 8/31 now). It's been in the dealership since with little to no updates or movement. We do have a loaner but we're making payment and spending gas for a car we can't use. I was told of someone who got a buyback with 99k and told me I should give them a call...but wondering what I might be looking at in terms of offers (NC).


r/leaf 1d ago

Thoughts on my battery health?

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I took the screenshots when the battery SOC was 25% I believe. I’m still trying to learn how to read into these details? I have no red bars on my cars battery health meter. What are your thoughts?


r/leaf 1d ago

Bose Sound System in 1st Gen - Speaker Upgrades

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Since purchasing my Leaf recently, I've haven't been loving the sound from the Bose sound system. I feel like cymbals and snares are metallic sounding. Which speaker components are most likely responsible for this - the 6.5 inch door speakers, or the 3/4 inch tweeters in the pillar? Or is it basically both?

I've read that the door speakers are low resistance (like 2-3 ohms) so the replacement options are limited, but available. But I'm wondering if the Bose system might be applying some DSP that's going to limit how much improvement, if any, I could get with speaker replacements.

Thanks in advance for any info!


r/leaf 1d ago

Atlanta repair shop?

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I'm looking for a repair shop in the Atlanta area that can work on a Nissan Leaf. The Nissan dealer quoted me $5600 parts and labor for a bad PDM (power delivery module). I'm thinking about trying to find a used PDM (maybe ebay) and pay someone to install it. I appreciate any help!