r/madmen 10h ago

On my...to-manyiest rewatch...and wondering if anyone ever came up with a good read on Diana

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Edit: TOO...manyiest. WHATEVER!

Coming back to the end of the series yet again and I picked through the sub and was wondering if anyone here or elsewhere ever had a good analysis of Diana Bauer. I'm still lost all these years later and analyzing art is literally my day job 😂


r/madmen 10h ago

Does anyone else find Betty unsexy?

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I’ve watched the whole show at least 5 times. I get she’s supposed to be very pretty and vain, someone who loves male attention. She’s got a great face but I find her frankly a little bland and unsexy, like she can’t inhabit a sexy woman’s body. So it kinda takes me out of it when men drool over her (like when she lost weight on season 6 and the gas station kid was staring at her, or when Harry’s “friend” told her he wanted to spend all night with her).

I found her very alluring in Italy, but at least 50% of that was her clothing and her role playing with Don and the black lingerie and push-up bra. Otherwise she’s very unsexy. January Jones makes a great vain, neurotic, narcissistic and sad Betty (I always cry when she cries), but I don’t buy men go awoooga-wolf-with-huge-eyes when they’re around her. (Joan I get
)

Anyone else feel the same?


r/madmen 15h ago

How do you think the affair between Don & Sylvia started?

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Was it ever mentioned? I assume they must have started either when both partners were away or by meeting at a hotel. I wonder who approached who.


r/madmen 8h ago

Don taking in Papa Gene

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Edit: I meant Grandpa Gene! I think taking Grandpa Gene into his home was the most unselfish and generous thing Don ever did. It was no secret Gene despised Don, and the feeling was mutual. I think doing this for Betty showed that he did care for her deeply on some level. Maybe it was also an attempt to repair something in her family that he could never repair in his own. Maybe he was trying to reduce the stress she was feeling because she was pregnant. It was probably a lot of motives, but each time I re-watch this season I’m impressed that he did this.


r/madmen 9h ago

Connie and the Moon

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Little question
 what’s the deal with Conrad Hilton at his pitch?

Does he really want a “moon” ad? He didn’t really express his need for the concept in a way that would be automatically considered genuine. I feel like that would go against his savvy characterization. I don’t think,up to that point he’s shown as someone who’ll have a moody over something that Don himself immediately says he’ll fix if Conrad wants him to.

Is he big dicking Don? Using a flimsy ruse to get a shot a Don?

It’s a weird scene for me.


r/madmen 7h ago

What was Paul Kinsey’s idea for western union telegrams?

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If I’m just missing something or there are theories I don’t know about forgive me


r/madmen 3h ago

Most analysis videos hate McCann, but half the characters with happy ending ended up there.

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Yeah, they (the analysis videos maker), and we (the audience), hate McCann for what they did to Joan, but just like everything in this show, no place or person is completely good or evil.

Analysis compared McCann to hell on earth, soulless, where creativity goes to die, etc. But everyone who stayed are all creative people from the show. Don (that Coke ad is McCann), Peggy, Stan, Ted, and, ugh, Harry.

The non-creative, the account exec and partners, were actually the people who left, Pete, Joan, Roger, etc. That's the point. Could it be that McCann is actually the advertising heaven Hobart promised?

And I do not think this is the "Don't you get it? The characters are just making the best out of a bad situation" situation. They were happy. It was a happy ending.

I watched this show as it was being rolled out, and despite the window jumping tease, I remembered how confuse some people were with the final episode. ESPECIALLY, people who wanted the show to be something it's not. Condemning the characters. Everything is doomed. Some even wanted Pete's plane to crash. And then tell themselves their lives will be miserable. Like... okay... I mean, it's possible... But why??? Why would you go there? You think Pete deserves DEATH?

There are two things that I feel most analysis videos missed. And I'm not condemning these videos by the way, I love them, and it's a way for me to reexamine Mad Men.

  1. Matthew Wiener like these characters and, his word, wanted to be kind to them in the end. And 2) It's obvious some of these characters are based on the writers' parents.
  2. The most obvious is Betty, the only one who get the worst ending, are probably some of the writers (who are mostly women)'s mother, and Sally was a stand in for them.

And honestly, rewatching it again, Don got his comeuppance when he was fired, and when he was hired back he was stripped down and built himself up again. That was satisfying enough for whatever mistake he made in the show for me. But the final punchline is not a condemnation at all.

ONE MORE THING: Another common trope in analysis video of Mad Men is making New York to be this evil seductive city. They pointed to Pete moving away from New York to be away from Trudy, and most commonly: Lane and how he got his ending. He was seduced by the evil of New York... Watching it again, he was doing fine until England demanded he paid back British tax (add to his father came over to beat him). That's how he died. New York is the evil one? When Britain actually came to collect and killed him?

I love these analysis videos, they are ways for me to relive shows I love. But you can't make it while going in thinking it's DARK, and characters are EVIL and it's a TRAGEDY. and the city is bad and the plane will crash, like. Why be so cynical when the show isn't?


r/madmen 5h ago

I loved Ted Chaough

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I truly loved this character. I thought Ted complemented Don’s dark and nefarious side. Ted sees through Don in a way that I’m not sure others who work closely to him do (which is why he wasn’t truly Don’s equal). I always thoroughly enjoy the scenes where Ted stands up to him.

Also, I was trying to find the hilarious clip where Roger Sterling purposely mispronounces Ted’s last name (season 4?).

Edit* I grew up with a couch that color. Pumpkin and corduroy baby. đŸ„â€đŸŸ«đŸđŸ„ƒ


r/madmen 4h ago

What’s up with the sombrero? Something to do with the 1970 World Cup in MĂ©xico? S7E10

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Feel free to let me know how wrong I am in the comments.


r/madmen 3h ago

What a moment


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What a moment 
 the intensity
 the pit in my stomach 
 knowing what he was about to do