r/politics • u/usatoday ✔ USA TODAY • 7h ago

No Paywall Whistleblower warns Trump mail ballot plan could be 'catastrophic'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/09/01/donald-trump-postal-service-mail-ballots-whistleblower/91559060007/
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u/plum01kiss 7h ago

messing with the mail ballot process this close to an election and potentially causing ballots to never even reach voters is insane

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u/SparkyMuffin Michigan 7h ago

Not just insane, it's treason. It's another one of Trump's attempts to subvert our elections, just like in 2020.

And probably 2024 but I'll get called crazy for thinking something was wrong

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u/Purple-Principle-805 6h ago

Subversion and treason aren’t the same.

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u/-LsDmThC- 3h ago

Subverting elections is treasonous in a democracy. Hope this helps.

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u/Purple-Principle-805 3h ago

That's not what treason means.

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u/-LsDmThC- 3h ago

“The offense of attempting to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance, or of betraying the state into the hands of a foreign power; disloyalty; treachery”

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u/Purple-Principle-805 3h ago

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section 3. The federal treason statute, 18 U.S.C. § 2381, mirrors the Constitution’s language.

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u/-LsDmThC- 3h ago

Im not sure why you are so caught up on the semantics but 18 USC Ch. 115 covers both treason and subversion and includes overthrow of the government (or just advocating/intent) such as election manipulation.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=%2Fprelim%40title18%2Fpart1%2Fchapter115&edition=prelim

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u/Purple-Principle-805 3h ago

Words have definitions, especially when the context is legal. The Constitution defines treason for us. That the statute in question also discusses other crimes does not change its adherence to the constitutional language. I agree that what Trump is doing with election interference is subversion, but not that it is treason.

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u/Formal_Cookie_9484 3h ago

You're proving the point that the constitution needs to be revised or completely rewritten. Or do you mean to suggest we only use the constitution's definition and not textbook definition.

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u/Purple-Principle-805 2h ago

If an American is to be accused of treason, then that crime is defined solely by the Constitution. If you want to use some other definition, OK, but you certainly aren't taking a legalistic approach.

I would love to see Trump impeached and convicted of subversion some day, but I can guarantee you if he's accused of treason then the constitutional definition will be mentioned in his defense given the facts as now are publicly known.

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u/SparkyMuffin Michigan 6h ago

Fair.

Subversion for more treason then. Because that mfer has been selling us out every chance he gets.

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u/Purple-Principle-805 6h ago

This doesn’t make sense.