This fucking sucks. im a person with a opioid use disorder, ive been addicted to fentanyl/ Heroin for 3 years and oxy for years prior. I haven’t touched any since february and quit without suboxone. I actually spend my last withdrawal in jail.
About a week and a half ago i was at the smoke shop and saw these extract tablets labeled “ascend” i talked to the guy who worked there and he had said he only heard good things about them. So i got these and ate two of them which came out to 320MG of mitragyna speciosa which is labeled as a “fermented full spectrum extract” on the bottle. It made me extremely nauseous, i vomited a lot and it felt copy and paste to heroin. The very next day i was experiencing bad withdrawal symptoms at work so i went ahead and took half of a pill (40 mgs) and the symptoms went away shortly after. I’m sure if your reading this your firmiliar with how the “ill taper off” mindset (it never works) Yesterday my girlfriend told me if i don’t stop taking these she will have to take space from me because it makes her sad to see me nodded off all the time. I got my hands on some subs this morning and took one (roughly 12 hours after my last dose of this extract) and immidiately got sent into precipitated withdrawal. I had to take another dose to get through the day.
Unfortunately i’m on probation and will get a technical violation if i admit myself to a detox so i’m going to have to quit cold turkey from home. i’m just so surprised they sell stuff this dangerous so casually. Everything in my withdrawal has felt exactly the same as fent if not worse. I took a baseball sized shit, cold sweats, nausea, vomiting, chicken skin, restless legs, migraines. It’s exactly the same as any other withdrawal i’ve gone through! Hell on earth.

Okay, been a couple days, figured I'd check in and hold myself accountable. Eight year, daily user, a lot of grams per day on day 23 of no kray kray. Still not perfect, was I ever (?), lol. Buuut, much better than the first week or two, so for those earlier than me, keep holding the line, resist the assault! Things will get better, it just takes time. I hit the weights the last two days; speed Bench against bands, some bent rows and other upper back work along with some weighted dips. Yesterday, I did some pulls (Deadlifting), was planning on a 5x5 but stopped at four sets due to a little tweak in my lat/upper triceps-this is one of the few times I stopped due to signs of impending injury, hahaha. I usually keep going and fuck myself up. So, that's a win. Finished off with some SSB Goodmornings off of crash bars and some weighted situps. I am beginning to think that weight lifting and exercise has been a big player in recovery. Something is better than nothing, get at fellow quitters! Remember, comparison is the thief of joy, so focus on your gains, it's your journey. I believe in all of you! Thank you!

I just really miss who I was before the drug. I miss the freedom of sobriety, not having to worry about my next dose. I miss being able to enjoy the things in life without having to use a substance first. Its so fucking stupid, I am basically able to truly live for 3 hours a day, the rest is spent waiting for the time to take my dose.

Every time I am laying in bed falling asleep I am thinking about quitting, but then the morning comes and it feels impossible to even get out of bed without first taking a dose.

I dont even know why I am so scared to quit, I experienced the withdrawals many times before and I know that the worst part is over in 4 days.

If someone could encourage me to just quit, I would appreciate it.

So I attempted cold turkey about a month ago after using 30ish gpd every day for like 9 months. I've been using kratom for 3 years total, I've quit cold turkey 3 times. The first two times I made it about 2 months and then relapsed, and the third and most recent time I only made it 36 hours because the withdrawals were insane compared to the last two times and I wasn't prepared at all. So, I decided I was gonna taper off and requested a week off work the following month. I tapered from 30gpd down to 7gpd, I was hoping to get lower but I was pretty proud of getting it under 10. The taper was pretty rough but it was doable, and I managed to fix a few bad habits during that month, such as fixing my sleep schedule and quitting energy drinks. I finally made it to my week off work and so far it has been so much easier than I could have imagined. Despite the taper I was expecting the wd to still be pretty awful but it so far so good. I'm sure tomorrow will be worse but wow I did not think tapering was gonna reduce the withdrawals THIS MUCH, I got probably 6 hours of sleep last night despite expecting to not get a lick of sleep. Granted I did get gabapentin from a friend which helped tremendously, but I'm only taking 100mg at night. Compared to a month ago when I was quite literally suffering this has been nothing! I feel like this is the quit that I'll finally be able to stick with, granted paws are gonna be a bitch but I'm at the point where I'm truly ready to let go of kratom, shit made my life miserable.

Ordered the recently scheduled tablets that helped me finally kick the 7 (I think) , been fine but I compiled a stash of meds that I haven’t thrown away and here’s the list. Let me know what you would do

1 xanax bar

~ 40 grams of leaf powder that may be expired (I quit powder a year ago when I went to straight 7)

~ 30 grams of capsules 650mg per capsule

2 cbd/d9 gummies

6 gabapentin and clonindine pills

Various otc vitamins like b12 and liposomal vitamin C and force factor multi (some guy on here said it’d help)

Like I said I’ve been fine so far but ngl im scared and the mental cravings are there. It’s more of an annoying feeling like quitting smoking. Kinda makes me want to get a pack of smokes now and puff a spliff

Should I take any of the leaf just to help with my anxiety and irritability?

Positive- my guilt and shame is gone

Worst symptom on kratom- I wanted to die very badly

Hi, I’ve posted here many times previously from different accounts. This sub helped me get sober without a doubt.

A few months ago a server at my job gave me an MGM-15 pill, the bag wasn’t labeled but I have been having a hard time mentally so I ended up taking it. Puked bile for a whole weekend and then my fiance took me to the hospital on my day off. Ended up having to stay for three days on an IV drip because I had drug induced liver failure from like 1.5 of those pills. I had only taken my rx meds otherwise for the prior year and a half. I didn’t take any of those pills after.

For the past year or so I have deeply felt like there is something missing in me. I have been prescribed gabapentin for around 5 years as well as lexapro. I don’t really abuse my gabapentin to get high. I did when I first got the prescription, but now I know I need it for my own sake and take it three times a day as my psych prescribed. I eat edibles daily and sometimes smoke weed, but I will also go a few days up to a week without weed each month.

When the “missing” feeling comes I will usually eat a gummy. Then I get anxious. Then I’m not satisfied so I scroll my phone, go shopping, masturbate, watch porn, vape a bunch. I also ended up with a terrible food addiction since I quit. I gained 60 pounds in a year. I started weight loss meds a month ago, and hey, at least I’m not as addicted to food anymore I guess. But it feels like my brain is forever going to try and compensate for that large amount of dopamine that I don’t get anymore.

I can’t take kratom with the meds I’m on but I always get tempted to buy some when I go to the gas station. It still has a chokehold on me. Like a “fuck it”, I’m already mentally terrible anyway, that warm, fuzzy feeling will really make me feel better. My feet won’t hurt at work because they can’t handle how fat I got. I won’t have an appetite at all.

If anyone else had experienced this and/or gotten over it I would really like to hear from you. I haven’t taken kratom since December 2024. I don’t want to feel like this forever, especially considering the fact that I’m already quite mentally ill as it is. Maybe the MGM-15 just exacerbated this feeling for the time being, but I took it months ago.

Thank you.
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I 31m have been taking 7oh essentially all day every day for the last year as I was dealing with significant pain from a herniated disc that required spine surgery. I have since successfully undergone spine fusion about 6 weeks ago and feel I no longer need it to manage my pain (in conjunction with the fact that I just don’t want to be on this crap anymore) and am on day two of my quitting journey.

My question is regarding fatigue and lack of motivation overall that I have experienced throughout my usage. I almost always felt tired and like I was never able to sleep enough. Also, my motivation to do nearly anything was mostly gone.

I suppose it could have been related to the fact that I was quite depressed about my outlook on like for a while due to the chronic pain I was experiencing anytime I got out of bed, but I suspect there is more to it and the 7oh was causing this. Has anyone else experienced similar?

Hi I’m on day 13 and my body and mind is unable to do anything. The paws and anhedonia makes my life gray and not even food or sex brings me joy and I feel like I’m hanging on by a thread. Tips, recommendations anything is appreciated

Just wanted to post on here as it's my third time coming off kratom. This last time was cats claw but I'm pretty sure it's cut with the same stuff. Wanted to let you know if you're at the worst most unbearable part of it where you're about to cave I promise that's right before it starts to ease up and possibly go away so just hang in there!

Want to edit the brand was Kats klaw

Best help was 2-4grams of that research chemical I can’t name and some benzodiazepines I tapered down off 70h with the research chemical and then when I ran out of seven I continued my taper of the RC then when I finally got done with all I got so benzodiazepines to help with sleep mood swings and anxiety from not reaching for 7 every day

On the struggle bus and just want to be done with this stuff. I'm so over it, don't feel like myself anymore. I just feel stuck.

For awhile I was taking up to 30gpd , was about 6gram doses roughly 5 times a day ( Every 3 to 3.5 hours or so ). I slowly tapered down over the last few months to 4gram doses about 5 times a day. However, now it's becoming to the point that I'm withdrawing sooner then 3 - 3.5 hours and my body is wanting to go for the Kratom at 2 - 2.5 hours which makes me end up taking another dose sooner than I should and then I end up taking 6 doses that day instead.

Also I'm noticing that I'm tired a lot , and possibly not sleeping well. I wake up in the morning so groggy and tired withdrawing hard. Have to basically run for the kratom 1st thing in the morning just to function.

IDK just feeling hopeless. I'm so scared to go cold turkey just knowing how crappy I feel in the morning alone when I wake up.

i laid down around 9:30 pm bc i was so exhausted. i slept from 10pm-5am and only woke up twice. was pretty easy getting back to sleep. the only thing lingering at the moment is the body aches and fatigue. i am about to leave for work and maaaan do i already wish i was back home.

Hey

I took Kratom for 2 Month Daily. Last week i hopped on PHM (a Research Chemical in Germany) for 5 Days and just did 2-5 Gramm Kratom per day. 4 Days ago i relapsed till yesterday afternoon. So i am on Day 1. Is Day 1 nothing like day 2 or 3 or does it get really really bad the next days. Also do i have physical WD till day 7? I know you can't give me perfect answers but i just want to know if i gonna die. Thanks for your anwsers.

still managing kinda fine (Read my first post for more context) (especially if you're from Ukraine, u know why)
surprisingly no cravings. Getting by with helper meds but starting to be afraid of getting hooked on them cause I still need them for my symptoms (mornings are still horrible but no more RLS which is a win win) Flushed my last stock of kratom and not even thinking about it anymore.
Also I'm literally doing nothing, can't force myself being productive but that's what I expected

Hi guys...so i thought it would never come to this cause of how i approached kratom but i was wrong

...ive started using kratom like 7 months ago...first it was weekend thing whilst on a hike usually...for like 2months

...then i got to using it even sometimes during the week...thats like 5months in yea but not that much really maybe like twice max 3 times a week at around 2 tsp...

and now summer comes first half of summer completely fine...i may have done a bit more than my usual two and a half TEA SPOONS in a day(4-6)...mind u i was still taking like breaks in between like a day or two sometimes even 4 days.

sometimes it was like 5 days in a row alr...but i was keeping my grams the same...okay this continued up until 20th august

where i did kratom for like 7 days straight...at like 2.5 to 3 tea spoons 6-10g okay and now what happened

on the 27th i think i prolly got sick... cause i had kratom but upon taking barely one tsp i had to manually throw up cause i wasnt feeling good

...from then its been up and down roller coaster im on day 5 currently and i have to say this is the worst thing ever idk if its bcs of whatever virus i got or quitting kratom or that i dont do nicotine now either.

...but the anhedonia been crazy and more than that anxiety is KILLLING ME im normally a pretty composed and calm guy im usually the one who deescalates things...so having extreme anxiety is super weird to me

...i didnt have a fever at all i was just feeling hot and cold... thats gone now.

..but what pisses me off currently by the worst to the more doable ones is 1 ANXIETY 2. i cannot eat almost anything i have zero appetite and i am super happy if i eat something ive lost like 3.5kg past 4 days...3. anhedonia...

im really hoping that im gonna go back to being my normal self soon...i wanted to ask if anyone had a simmiliar process or any tips on how to survive this lol...or explanation whtvr...thanks.

P.S. i have feeling it is the mix of the three the virus that got me first and having to quit both kratom and nicotine... P.S P.S i was planning to quit kratom alltogether on this day (1.9) just because i didnt wanna rely on it to make me happy or whatever...i guess chritsmas came early this year lmao... again thanks to anyone willing to help or explain this to me

I'm thinking about stacking Selank, Semax and Bromantane for a few weeks to help with PAWS. I was on about 20gpd for 2 years and used ibo to quit. About 9 months ago. It helped with acutes but I had PAWS for months and started taking kratom on and off 3 months ago. Probably 3-4x per week, 5gpd. I can go a few days without taking kratom but I just feel like crap all the time...low energy anhedonia, anxiety, digestive issues.

I also take magnesium and 5htp at night.

Would be curious to know if anyone has experience or thoughts on stacking these to see if it would help?

I'm not sure how to explain it, other than feeling like there is this weight on my chest while I've been tapering down. I'm not sure if it's anxiety but this is the biggest struggle I've been dealing while tapering down other then these emotional waves that comes and goes.

It's really random when it happens; I'm down to about a quarter of my use, but I've had this same feeling in previous attempts of tapering down and it's definitely not related to heart issues either.

Has anyone else experienced this or is it just me? I'm gonna keep tapering down to zero, but this has been driving me crazy.

This is an interesting situation that happened to me. I will start by saying that before I discovered “Feel Free,” I was a HUGE exception to kratom withdrawals and would take huge doses of Kratom capsules for months and never suffered any withdrawal when stopping.

That all changed when I discovered Feel Free. I was drinking 8-12 a day. I also would take 50-100 kratom capsules occasionally when I had none left. The addiction lasted two months until the 100$ a day price was simply not doable.

I stopped taking them thinking I would have no withdrawal. Kratom is Kratom right? I had the worst withdrawal of my life- coming from someone who’s had GHB, benzo, and alcohol withdrawal.

Not restless legs. AKATHESIA. The akathesia made me suicidal. I was moving non stop, constantly.

No sleep for days, even when taking my prescription GHB. This is THE most sedating drug on the market.

Hallucinations. These were not just due to sleep deprivation. I have had sleep deprivation hallucinations. It was the kratom. For me, I have hallucinated during all sorts of withdrawal. A tell for me that hallucinations are going to be a part of withdrawal is extremely vivid dreams. I have had the most vivid dreams off Kratom. And these hallucinations were not my normal sleep deprivation hallucinations. They were terrifying. I believe I was sent into psychosis from withdrawal and that I was more prone to it than average because I have had psychosis from LSD as a teenager.

Vomiting for WEEKS. Inability to eat. My nausea was to the point where hearing about food would make me throw up.

Severe nerve pain.

I was told feel free withdrawal lasts 3 days. Not for me. On the third day I was delirious, actively suicidal, vomitting every hour, crying and holding onto my mom. Acute lasted 2 weeks. My mental state was also horrible. It was to the point where reviving a loving hug from my sweethearts of a father would give me intense intrusive thoughts of him raping me. I would look at my dog and have intense intrusive thoughts of her torn limb to limb. Kratom withdrawal was like a bad acid trip.

I was 20 days off of Kratom while still having nausea and RLS when a couple days ago I decided to take 10 capsules. 5 grams in comparison to my daily 40-50 grams. The worst part is? The kratom wasn’t even enjoyable.
I am now vomitting again, unable to eat, rocking back and other and moaning in pain. This was from 5 capsules. Why did I do this to myself?

Has anybody tried smoking weed to quit? I'm running into the issue that I can't taper because the kratom high helps me sleep at night. I'm thinking about maybe switching to weed so I can still get some sort of high that helps me sleep and then take a small amount of capsules just to ward off withdrawals while I taper. Has anybody done this?

I can't taper, I am extremely addicted to kratom. I've been using it for years. I get prescribed 10mg oxycodone 3x a day, I've made a mistake mixing them every day for two years now. I'm using about 30gpd to 60gpd possibly more.

I have taken my oxycodone in 3 weeks and am going to attempt to switch to just that in a few days. I need advice or encouragement. Im sure people will say oh that should be easy, but I was still in full blown withdrawal last time i dropped the kratom and took oxycodone 3x a day. Shitting non stop, no energy, puking. I've made this more difficult than quitting kratom by mixing them for so long. Im going to embrace the suck, any advice anyone?

I plan to take the oxycodone for 2 months and then stop it completely, thats easy. Ive quit pain killers countless times easily. Kratom is a whole different beast what it does to your mind.

I'm down a lot of weight, muscle, I watch tv or listen to music all day at home doing absolutely nothing but wasting time. I want my old self back, I used to be strong, confident, athletic, always picking up women or dating. I have barely done any of that on kratom, because I realized kratom gives me a false sense of everything I need.

Im a shell of my old self, weak, scronny, and go between over talking on kratom to withdrawl and barely speaking or interacting with people. I used to walk my sevice dog 5 times a day, but when I eat lunch or dinner I go into withdrawal and dont leave the house. This shit is poison and has taken every aspect of my life. I used to have hobbies and always be moving forward in life until kratom. Now I just do what I can to waste the day.

I guess I need advice or motivation or both.

So I've had this trip planned out for a year now with my wife, but just recently I've discovered that kratom is really holding me back. Before I thought my problems were from other sources, like somatic pains from my anxiety/depression, my diet, or my poor sleep quality. Basically I tried every other solution under the sun before I realized it was kratom.

All it took was a short break for half a day to realize how numb my body was. It was annoying and I definitely went into withdrawals, but at least I felt a flicker of emotions for the first time in years. That's when I realized I can't go on any longer.

So anyways, I've been tapering by 50% (going from 15GPD to 7GPD) and my jump off point is already planned. I would have loved to do it sooner, but work and other family activities made that too difficult.

In about a week I'll be going CT. I already got a clonidine prescription and I have stocked up on other OTC meds and supplements as needed. So from the CT day to the day I go on our trip it will be 15 days. I know I'll still be feeling like crap because it's not that out of the window, but at least I'll be feeling.