r/sadposting • u/AmoebaStriking9750 • 8h ago
Same road, different rules
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u/PoopsMcScoots 6h ago
Tends to happen when you primary religion says poor people are inherently bad and deserve abuse.
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u/Lazy-Increase7903 5h ago
Yeah its not surprising for a country that still uses a caste system while denying using said caste system
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u/iCynr 4h ago
Let's not forget it was British that implemented the caste system during their Colonial rule of India as an iteration of the Varna system while it was just beginning to fade away
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u/CherryPopLover69 3h ago
how do you implement a sytem thats already inplace?
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u/iCynr 2h ago
The Caste system and the Varna system are fundamentally different.
The Varna system was about elevation, having the ability to move up the ladder. The Caste system is about keeping those who are considered lowborn as lowborn generationally. They are not the same system.
Also, the Varna system does not have the Dalit tier. The Dalit tier was a construction of the Caste system implemented by the British. Those considered Dalits are mistreated the most, they're considered less than human and it was completely orchestrated by Colonial Britian
So no, the Caste system was not "already inplace"
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u/CherryPopLover69 2h ago
from wikipedia
"The term Dalit is for those called the "untouchables" and others that were outside of the traditional Hindu caste hierarchy.\12])\13]) Economist and reformer B. R. Ambedkar (1891–1956) said that untouchability came into Indian society around 400 CE,"
now im not so good on my history but im pretty sure this is a few years before the birtish empire
Also first page of CASTE System in India
In India, social classification based on caste has its origin in ancient times. It was transformed by various ruling elites in medieval, early-modern, and modern India, especially in the aftermath of the collapse of the Mughal Empire and the establishment of the British Raj.\1])\2])\3])\4]) Caste is traditionally associated with Hinduism,\5]) but is more pervasive in extent: an estimated 98% of contemporary Indians, including Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Buddhists, and Jains, identify with a caste.\6])
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u/CherryPopLover69 2h ago
Second Paragraph
Beginning in ancient India, the caste system was originally centered around varna), with Brahmins (priests) and, to a lesser extent, Kshatriyas (rulers and warriors) serving as the elite classes, followed by Vaishyas (traders and merchants) and finally Shudras (labourers). Outside of this system are the oppressed, marginalised, and persecuted Dalits (also known as "Untouchables")
literely says the Varna Cate had Dalits
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u/iCynr 2h ago
I'm not sure how you can read
Outside of this system are the oppressed, marginalised, and persecuted Dalits (also known as "Untouchables")
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literely says the Varna Cate had Dalits
No, Dalits were never part of Varna until the uninformed British though they were the same thing and merged them into the new Caste system they invented.
Again, Originally Varna has 4 tiers. Modern Indian Caste which was built off Varna by the British has 5 tiers.
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u/CherryPopLover69 1h ago
bro really?, if you built a sytem that exludes a percent of your people and littrelly says oppressed marginailized and persecuted and that it began in ancient times then that CASTE of people were created by your sytem.
i get it the british empire was horrible but to try and pin indias caste sytem on it when it was already in place hundred of years before the countries of the uk where formed is just sad
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u/kuunami79 5h ago
Very similar to the way many western countries like the United States of America pretends there's no caste system in their culture.
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u/Competitive_Steak698 5h ago
You can move up through the classes you can never go up from your caste. It is the antithesis of "all people are born equal". It is also why Indians are leaving in droves to go live in Western society.
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u/Impossibleshitwomper 3h ago
Its no longer possible (or at least likely) after the erasure of the American middle class
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u/Lazy-Increase7903 5h ago
Do we pretend not to have a caste system? Im american and I thought we were pretty open about it
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u/Jimbob209 3h ago
Ok I'm curious. What's your experience with the "caste system" in our country?
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u/Lazy-Increase7903 3h ago
Ive never been to India so idk
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u/Jimbob209 3h ago
You're reading my sentence wrong. What did you think I meant when I said our when it comes to you and I?
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u/Lazy-Increase7903 3h ago
Idk for some reason your pfp made me assume you were Indian lol my bad
But to answer your question I still dont know bc iv only ever experienced the poverty level of our caste system, I have no idea what goes on above me
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u/Jimbob209 2h ago
I see. I can relate to that because I grew up on poverty, parents got us out into middle class, then I adulted in poverty, and now I'm no longer in poverty and make a pretty decent wage.
I think what better describes our system is a socioeconomic system, or the class system. It's not the same as the caste system and I think you are mixing it with social stratification. In our system, you can improve your life through social mobility whether it be through educational achievements or marrying into a wealthier family or other things that can be considered an achievement.
You can't do that in the caste system. You marry your own caste, you are allowed specific types of labor based on your caste, and as far as education, I'm not sure how much they're allowed to get, if any, based on their caste ranking.
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u/Lazy-Increase7903 2h ago
Lmao rich americans don't even live in the same plane of reality as us poor americans wth are you talking about
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u/PoopsMcScoots 2h ago
It totally exists, but let’s not pretend like India isn’t well known for it.
I have the highest percentage of Indian immigrants in the country where I live, and there’s definitely people that look down and make it a point to be rude to the working class.
And not everyone from India is like that, but fundamentalist Hindus are absolutely inclined to treat people of “the lower class” bad.
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u/Secret_Stick_5213 3h ago
Very different. You are born into your caste and it stays that way for life in India. At least in America you have a chance to change your circumstances even if it’s difficult.
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u/db_new 2h ago
Religion can be a reason but as someone from Pakistan, this is exactly same here too..its more of a subcontinent thing
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u/PoopsMcScoots 2h ago
You don’t have to touch radioactive waste to get radiation poisoning either.
Someone else could handle it and shake your hand.
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u/prophet_9469 4h ago
While it's true that rich people are treated much better than poor people in India, it looks like he's letting a cop car in and then closing the route right after. And the poor cyclist is in the middle of the road, going the wrong way instead of being on the correct side of the road. I'm Indian and do not condone the cop's behavior.
I've seen how rude and pathetic they can be. I've seen how VIP lines exist in places of worship, for example. Absolutely unjust.
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u/maximum_319 6h ago
man for sure didnt have to push the biker, but the traffic control looks so stressful you cant help but feel for the guy doing the job a stoplight should be doing
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u/BadDudes_on_nes 15m ago
FYI—music is added to video to manipulate emotions.
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u/mother_love- 1h ago
Dam 80% of the comments are about cast system when the actual divide is rich vs poor. Like how the f do you know cast of someone just by looking at him . Next level of delusion is going on.
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u/Reincarnatedpotatoes 11m ago
What do you think defines the caste system other than wealth and power?
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u/gravygizzard 4h ago
It's crazy they when bother with a caste system when the entire world looks at their country as the lowest of the global order
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u/Monomanga 2h ago
You are talking about a country that has a class of people that are to this day refered to as the "untouchables"
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u/Mouthbreather9394 4h ago
Being born in India is a blessing because they have Modi for PM that would make the country superpower in 2030
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u/safelix 5h ago
Only those with money can afford dignity