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r/sanpedrocactus Sep 08 '21

Is this San Pedro? The Mega Sticky for San Pedro Lookalikes and ID training.

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Howdy fellow cactaphiles. This post will be stickied as a reference to help people identify the common San Pedro Lookalikes. The following plants are columnar cacti that are easily confused for the Trichocereus species. You can use this guide to compare your mystery cactus to these photos and descriptions.

#1 - Cereus species - 

The infamous "Peruvian Apple Cactus." This is most commonly mistaken for San Pedro because it's size, profile, color, and flowers look very similar to Trichocereus.

There are several species of Cereus that look almost identical. They usually get lumped into the description of Cereus peruvianus, which is not an accepted species.(https://cactiguide.com/article/?article=article3.php). These include C.repandus, C. jamacaru, C. forbesii, C. hexagonus and C. stenogonus. Other Cereus species are easier to distinguish from Trichocereus.

The main features that distinguish a Cereus from a Trichocereus are the flat skinny ribs, hairless flower tubes, and the branching tree-like structure of mature plants.

Cereusly flat and skinny ribs

So flat... So skinny... So Cereus.

Tree-like branching, with hairless fruits and flowers.

#2 - Myrtillocactus geometrizans - 

This cactus goes by many names including the blue candle, whortleberry, bilberry, blue myrtle...

This plant often has a deep blue farina, but larger plants usually look light green. Young plants are columnar and usually have 5-6 angular ribs. The ribs are often thicker than a Cereus and narrower than Trichocereus. Mature plants can get large, but are more shrub-like than tree-like. 

The best way to distinguish these plants from Trichocereus is to look at the spines. Myrtillos have a few short spines per areole. The spines on short plants are usually dark colored and pyramidal (instead of round, needle-like spines.) Spine length increases as the plants age, but the spines stay angular.

We have all seen these at every plant store we have ever been to. The blue farina and short, dark, pyramidal spines are dead givaways.

Mature plants are shrub-like. The spines get longer and lighter colored with maturity.

#3 - Stetsonia coryne -

This is the toothpick cactus. It looks very similar to Trichocereus species like T. peruvianus, T. knuthianus, etc. However, there are a few subtle ways to distinguish a Toothpick cactus from a Trichocereus.

The dermis of a Stetsonia will be a darker green in healthy plants. The aeroles are large, white, woolen and not perfectly circular.

 The easiest way to distinguish a Toothpick cactus is of course, by the spines. Stetsonias will have one long spine per areole that resembles a toothpick. The coloration of new spines will usually be yellow, black, and brown. They lose their color and turn grey to white rather quickly. Usually only the top few areoles will have the colorful spines. 

Large, woolen, and ovoid areoles. Dark green dermis is common on youngsters.

Mature plants have tree-like branching and get very large.

#4 - Pilosocereus species -

There are many species in the Pilosocereus genus, but just a few closely resemble San Pedros. Most Pilosocereus will be very blue, with needle-like spines that are yellow to grey. The most common, and most commonly mistaken for San Pedro is P. pachyclaudus. Other Pilos are much more uncommon, or have features like long hairs that make them easy to distinguish from a San Pedro. 

Young P. Pachyclaudus will usually have a vibrant blue skin with bright yellow spines. This should make them easy to pick out of a lineup. Unhealthy plants will have lost their blue farina. For these plants look at the areoles and spines for ID. There should be about 10 yellow, spines that are evenly fanned out within the areole. The spines are also very fine, much thinner than most Trichocereus species. 

Bright blue skin, yellow spines are thin.

Hairy aerolas are common for mature Pilos.

#5 - Lophocereus / Pachycereus species

Pachycereus got merged into the Lophocereus genus this year!? Wacky, but they still get confused with San Pedros so here are the common ones. 

L. Marginatus is the Mexican Fence Post cactus. The size and profile are very similar to San Pedro. The easiest way to distinguish a fence post is by their unique vertical stripes. I stead of separate areoles, you will notice white stripes that run the length of the plant. Unhealthy plants will lose the white wool, but upon a close inspection, you can see the line of spines. The flowers are also small and more similar to Pilosocereus flowers.

Elongated areoles form vertical white stripes.

Truly columnar, branching at the base. The fence post cactus.

L. Schottii is another common columnar. Especially in the Phoenix metro area, you will drive past hundreds of the monstrose form. The totem pole cactus slightly resembles a monstrose Trichocereus. The exaggerated lumpiness and absence of descernable ribs or areoles makes a totem pole pretty easy to spot. 

It is super common to see large stands of the Totem Pole Cactus in Pheonix.

The non-monstrose form of L. schottii is actually less common. Adults look similar to an extra spiny Cereus or L. marginatus. Juveniles look more like the juvenile Polaskia and Stenocereus species.

#6 - Stenocereus and Polaskia species

Polaskia chichipe can look very similar to San Pedros. The best way to discern a polaskia is by the ribs and spines. The ribs will be thinner and more acute than Trichocereus, but wider than Cereus. They usually have 6-8 evenly spaced radial spines, and one long central spine. Although the spination is similar to T. peruvianus, the central spine of a Polaskia will be more oval shaped instead of needle-like. Adult plants usually branch freely from higher up. Juvenile plants often have a grey, striped farina that disappears with age. This makes them hard to discern between Stenocereus and Lophocereus juveniles, but it is easy to tell it apart from a Trichocereus.

Acute rib shape and silvery farina.

Acute ribs, fanned spines, with one long central.

Polaskia chende - Is this a recognized species? Who knows, but if it is, the discerning characteristics are the same as P. chichipe, except the central spine is less noticeable.

Stenocereus - There are a few Stenocereus species that can be easily confused for San Pedros. Juvenile plants look very similar to Polaskia. Stenocereus varieties such as S. aragonii, S. eichlamii, S. griseus, etc get a grey farina that usually forms Chevron patterns. S. beneckei gets a silvery white coating too.

Mature plants will look very similar to San Pedros. The identifying traits to look for are the acute rib angles, spination and silvery farina that often appears in narrow chevron patterns. The flowers are also more similar to Lophocereus spp.

Acute rib angles, and silver chevron stripes on S. aragonii.

Baby S. griseus looking similar to the Polaskia.

#7 - Browningia hertlingiana

 Brownies are beautiful blue plants that can look similar to Trichocereus peruvianus or cuzcoensis. The ribs are the defining traits to look at here. The ribs of a Browningia are wavy instead of straight. Mature plants will often have more than 8 ribs, which would be uncommon for most Trichocereus species.

Bright blue farina, long yellow to grey spines, and wavy ribs.

Mature plants often have more than 8 ribs.

#8 - Echinopsis?

Is a Trichocereus an Echinopsis? Yes. Is an Echinopsis a San Pedro? Sometimes. Most folks consider the San Pedro group (along with a few other species) too different from other Echinopsis and Lobivia species to lump them together into the same genus. Just because they have hairy flowers and can fertilize each other, should they be in the same genus?

Echinopsis species are usually shorter, pup from the base, and have more ribs. There are many different clones and hybrids that are prized for their colored flowers. Where most Trichocereus have white flowers instead.

E. Spachiana - The Golden Torch

Echinopsis Grandiflora "Sun Goddess"

Echinopsis x Trichocereus hybrids do exist, and they are getting more popular. Should they be treated as the same genus? Who cares if they are awesome plants.

If your plant doesn't match any of these, feel free to post an image (or a poll) and see what the community can come up with.

Cheers!


r/sanpedrocactus 3h ago

Incremitis- the new CSD

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r/sanpedrocactus 19h ago

🌞Soaking In The Morning Sun🌵

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Accessability Transcription:

Image 1: Picture from outside the fence. Prominent "these machines kill fascists" sign. Cacti in the background.

Image 2: Closer Image of just the cacti bathed in sunlight.

Image 3: My pulchritudinous perimeter of propagated purple prickpy pear paddles.

Image 4: Snail :3


r/sanpedrocactus 8h ago

Grafts are doing good! 👍

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r/sanpedrocactus 9h ago

Peens found at local nursery

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Good deal or nah? $12.99 each


r/sanpedrocactus 16h ago

Picture Love the blues 💙🩵

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Happy Monday shall everyone who sees this have a fantastic week 🪄🫡


r/sanpedrocactus 6h ago

ID Request Can anyone ballpark an ID?

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Graft given to me as (lost label) NOID a year ago. Looks totally different than when I got it. Thanks in Advance ✌️


r/sanpedrocactus 4h ago

Picture Update on my previous posting

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Hi guys,

I posted a question about 4 months ago if I should interfere with many pups being clustered close together.

Many of you wanted to see what will happen and I decided on nature to take it's route. Pups found a way poking each other giving enough space to grow 😍🤌


r/sanpedrocactus 5h ago

My Melti DeCosta is showing variegation!

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r/sanpedrocactus 16h ago

Picture Happy Tuesday 🌵

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Hope all you fine people are having a great day!


r/sanpedrocactus 14h ago

Wocket tip

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r/sanpedrocactus 9h ago

Picture Love Hate relationship with the Arizona Monsoon

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r/sanpedrocactus 3h ago

Question TBM question

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Been having major issues with my TBMs. I’ve used the same soil mix and same watering schedule as my trichocereus Pachanoi and that may be the issue (I now know).. they’re in 50:50 organic and inorganic and I grow them on my rooftop under a clear sheet. It’s very hot where I am and quite arid, 45C peak summers.. I’m now changing the soil mix for them and moving to a 70:30.. A few of them have this happen at the base, where the skin has peeled off when I uprooted them.. It’s firm to the touch in those parts.. Wondering if this needs cutting or can I just pot this into the soil?
The last two pics are of the plants with major issues


r/sanpedrocactus 2h ago

Cali Vali x Pluto

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r/sanpedrocactus 18h ago

Picture Tbm-b

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Love that spiny things 🥶


r/sanpedrocactus 13h ago

Picture My TPM came to me in the night and demanded children

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r/sanpedrocactus 9h ago

Question Considering rescuing these cacs

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Howdy all. Local has these for sale ($80 for both pots). Doesn't know anything about them. Taller one is about 2 1/2 feet tall, shorter one is about 2 feet tall. Couple of pups. I'd like to grow 'em out, maybe chop and prop. Whadda ya think? Was hoping they knew the cultivar but doesn't sound like they have much of a clue.


r/sanpedrocactus 11h ago

Can I just cut the spines off and juice my cactus?

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They are getting super top heavy


r/sanpedrocactus 16h ago

ETBM being dramatic

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Totally fine btw


r/sanpedrocactus 7h ago

San pedro?

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Found these 2 guys at lowes, I was fairly confident at first they were san pedros but now I really cant tell, google image search is no help. anyone willing to help?


r/sanpedrocactus 4h ago

Nuevos injertos.

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Nuevos injertos aprovechando el final del verano🤲🏻


r/sanpedrocactus 15h ago

Discussion I’m thinking the “Picture This” app ain’t so smart.

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It keeps telling me that my trichos are myrtillos…

Help me out here, and look at the second picture, which is my cactus that I scanned into the app. Mine are like a Bolivian Torch or something like that, but they are not Blue Myrtillo.


r/sanpedrocactus 13h ago

Picture Tpqc x tpc

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Absolutely funky and beautiful 🤩 growing strong 💪


r/sanpedrocactus 10h ago

Does this setup look okay

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Will these all grow together under my grow lamp.