Keep the story of the game the same, Joel dying, the flashbacks, Seattle and the farm, even Ellie sparing Abby but just take out Abby’s playable sections and have the story focus on Ellie and her journey through grief, could the game have actually worked?

I have many MANY problems with the P2 (I can fully admit that Abby sorta didn’t work for me) but even then I can SEE what they’re. Doing with Ellie and If you even take Abby completely out of the game (but keep her the “villain”) just have the game be ENTIRELY from Ellie’s POV, I think the game would’ve been MUCH stronger.

I actually REALLY enjoy the first part of the game and Ellie’s three days in Seattle, that’s where I feel the writing is the strongest IMO, we see Ellie going to Seattle to get revenge (and to bring back Tommy) but over her three days we also see Ellie struggle and fumble with her vengeance we can tell that with all her anger she’s not a cold blooded killer, she only wants information on Abby and only uses torture as a last resort (she even tries to method on Mel and Owen without violence and only asked for information and she’d spare them and OWEN was the one who escalated that) and even then she has to dig DEEP into her anger with Nora, she’s sick and having a panic attack when she finds out that she killed Mel and she was pregnant but when she gets back to the theater with Dina, Ellie is traumatized at what she did, she’s all but scared of herself and has to constantly calm herself down, she’s lashing out at everyone (Dina, Jessie) hell the ONLY reason Tommy is talking about heading back is he sees what this trip is doing to Ellie and wants to go back for her sake Abby be Damned.

Keep the theater fight and the farmhouse the same and Santa Barbra (except Ellie keeps her fingers)
During the farm Ellie is on autopilot until Tommy has a lead on Abby, Ellie/the player ventures to Seattle finds Abby and sees
Through Abby’s treatment of Lev that Abby has changed from when we last saw her, they still fight but Ellie and abby are too exhausted and collapse and they FINALLY ask “Why” and Abby mentions “I know why Joel did what he did, (with her looking at Lev) I’d do *anything* to protect Him, I know it won’t change anything but I’m sorry, I should’ve let it go” and Ellie admits she’ll never forgive Abby but with her thinking of JJ she also comes to terms with what Joel did at the hospital and comes to the same conclusion Abby did about Lev, they both other separate way and Ellie returns to Jackson hoping to rebuild bridges she burnt.

Sorry this got kinda long and I felt like I rambled but I hope I got my main point across on what I was trying to say about removing Abby’s playable sections and having the game explore Ellie’s grief about Joel/the hospital and how the game was just focusing on Ellie and her journey through her grief and her road to “redemption”

Hi guys! I was looking at some past TLOU2 discussions on reddit and came across the infamous "you can't shoot things in the synagogue" point again.

They mentioned that it was unfair and that Druckmann was prioritising his own religion over others because you could shoot the wooden statue of the virgin Mary in the hospital as Abby?

So I was curious and tried to find footage where the statue was visible, but I haven't been successful in finding any. Could somebody help me out? Thx! (I posted this in the other sub first, but no one would give a helpful answer, so here I am..)

P.S. Unrelated but I always found it bizzare that some people genuinely sound like they wanted to shoot up religious symbols.

She did what she had to do

We know Ellie is weaker than Abby, but could her determination save her?

Took these over the past few days and I usually just post them on my instagram but I thought maybe Reddit could be a cool place to share these too?

Hope you guys like them!

I had to explain to my bf that when part 2 came out it was internets most hated game of the year in 2020 he felt the same in 2026 before the went deeper in to Abby back story and playing her. I’m tell u his reaction for all of the big scenes in the game let me know if I missed one. I played the game already I’m jealous my bf get to experience it for the first time without spoilers like me when both of the games came out

Joel gets killed:
cries and went to the bathroom and kept saying I hate her. Feels like Joel’s daughter death all over again.

Few days of us hunting Abby:
hates her guts still killing everything that has any connection to her or tries 2.

Ellie n Dina running from hoard:
my bf is on his toes now he knew Dina was pregnant before we even got to that scene. Cuz the game is really good at giving hints, and his exact words Dina you bitch u better not take off that mask !!!! You pregnant!!!! Babe babe what she doing !!!. Calm down when Ellie told the truth… he almost had a heart attack.

Ellie found out Joel was lying:
my bf was very stuck in between he def was on Ellie side more but he see both of where they coming from.

THE RAT KING:
now my bf hated this boss !!!! He was disgusted by it and was horrified…my bf don’t do well when it comes to thing that are horror. He would only continue the fight if I was in the room💀💀💀…I can’t blame him I did the same but wth my cousin in 2020. He yelped a lot and cursed like his life was on the line I mean digitally it was 🤣🤣. But to him his real life was on the line.

The office with the stalkers:
he made me finish that part 😑😑 he scary smh. That’s all I can say 😑. His words FUCK THIS!!.

Mel:
At first was like wtf is her problem…then see Abby and the ex bf still have feelings for each other while pregnant 😬😬😬. He said babe ik if I ever done that to u while pregnant, I prob wonder why Im seeing my father right now (his dad is dead). Then got pissed at Ellie for killing her and the baby.

Ellie and Dina with their child:
My bf told Ellie to chill tf out she got a family and became real disappointed Ellie. That she walked away from them.

The finally:
My bf liked Abby a lot with lev so much so he was kinda siding more with Abby at the end. But when he realized that Joel killed a lot of people unnecessarily he was very understanding and we had a longggggggggggg conversation about that before we got to the end lmao.but he stilled loved Joel since we delt with Joel as a father to us as Ellie.
He was trying to do everything in his power to get Ellie back to the farm lmaoo but when it got to the end my bf did not play the game for 3 weeks he wasn’t ready for what was about to come. 😩😩😩
But he finnaly got to it and he was relived hated the fight sooooo much but relived.

I hope people can decipher this lol so please correct me if I'm wrong about anything or made any mistakes please!

I made this out of a broken controller.

The dialogue is inverted. If Dina is talking to the right, then I hear Dina on my left. I feel like the audio's inverted too, I see snowballs hitting my left, & hearing them on my right.

I've tinkered with the audio settings, trying to change from home theater to headphones, then back, changing latency to high, spatial audio. I don't have spatial audio on my control panel enabled.

Edit: Somehow, my cables were swapped, even though I don't remember swapping them.. anyways its fixed, thanks for reminding me y'all of stereo left right smth.