r/TooAfraidToAsk • u/Sensitive_Profile623 • 3h ago
Politics Why does the idea of guaranteeing everyone a basic standard of living make some people so angry?
I’ve been thinking about this after another discussion completely spiraled.
I’m not talking about everyone earning the same amount, abolishing private property, eliminating businesses, or making luxury goods free.
I mean something much more basic: in an extremely wealthy society, should there be a floor below which we simply don’t allow people to fall?
Healthcare when you’re sick. Enough food to eat. Basic shelter. Utilities. Access to education. Things you realistically need to participate in society and stay alive.
You can still work harder and make more money. You can own a nicer house, travel, buy expensive clothes, start a company, become wealthy, whatever. I’m not particularly bothered by inequality above the floor.
What I struggle to understand is the hostility toward establishing the floor itself.
Whenever this comes up, the conversation seems to jump almost immediately to “communism,” “nobody will work anymore,” “government tyranny,” or arguments about whether somebody deserves assistance.
And I find that really interesting.
Why does another person having healthcare or enough food register as a threat to some people?
Is it a belief that hardship is necessary to motivate people? A sense that benefits have to be earned to be fair? Distrust of government? Fear that providing one thing inevitably leads to the state controlling everything? Or is there something psychologically uncomfortable about reducing the distance between people at different levels of the hierarchy?
I’m genuinely interested in the deeper reasoning here because “people shouldn’t be destitute in a country with enormous resources” feels like a fairly modest moral starting point to me, yet apparently it’s an extremely controversial one.
UPDATE: I’m not proposing UBI or saying the government should hand everyone enough cash to maintain some predetermined lifestyle. I’m asking whether we can structure a wealthy society so that people don’t become homeless, go hungry, lose access to healthcare, or otherwise fall into destitution simply because they’re poor. And assume nobody’s taxes have to increase. Would you still oppose guaranteeing everyone basic necessities? Why?